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slicing terminals at master had increased payouts by 30 - 40%

not bad

As a master ws who has a MSmug alt i am very disappointed in slicing post CU. I fail on approx half the slices and the rest are 7% speed or 8% damage. Unless things improve i will probably drop smuggler due to its limited worth. Hopefully the devs will see the light and put some variability back into the game.

Oame Imorhe

Master Weaponsmith/Master Merchant - Valcyn

Eclai Dustrider

Master rifleman/ Master smuggler - Valcyn

what do you mean you fail at half your slices? your useing clamps right?

again the smuggler takes a hit... no skill tapes, one good pistol special that damn near kills you if you use it while your healthy, no useful traits... oh wait we can go talk to Jawa traders and get 300 credits for our useless junk.. Renegade pistolwould benice if you could kill anything with it. 3 % dmg slice is my worst slice to date, on a flamethrower. I averaged 10-11% on my armor I sliced. Grim, very grim.

Message Edited by PHXGrudge on 05-01-2005 09:00 AM

Well, my point is, is that there is no benefit to having master smuggler if the weapons are made from awesome resources. If there is a cap for the damage and speed already and you can reach them or get close, you will have a low %age slice to hit the cap. So, the fact still remains that if you use crappy resources you can still get a better slice and almost hit the cap.

Where is the advantage for Master Smugglers?

I posted this somewhere else but it seems we are all coming to generally the same conclusion. slicing now has become the great equalizer crafting wise.

it appears to me that all percentages, damages and speeds aside if you focus on the weapons base dps (not modified dps) you will get right around the same number everytime. so for example I picked up a number of weapons yesterday some crap and some with uber resources and krayt tissues. virtually all the master level weapons worked out to be the same dps per catigory no matter what the slice the difference is on the crap ones i got normal sounding slices 16% dmg 20% spd etc on the uber ones i got crap slices 3% dmg 0% spd and even on a couple i got "you cannot slice this weapon it is already at its maximum value" ???

my guess is that weapons are capped based on base dps so as for slicing it is now worthless unless you buy crap. moral? if you have a cheep weapon get it sliced and it will be as good as any uber weapon. If you bought quality weapons don't bother because it will not be worth it.

as for armor I have sliced 10 suits of armor and not received 1 encumberance slice all effect slices ranging from 2% to 23% /shrug I'm guessing its the same as the weapons your base max stats once achieved is the cap

Good then I don't necessarilyneed master smuggler for slicing. As a WS however I do not like this change. The only thing separating me from others now is my resources (that doesn't help as much as it used to) and the fact that I am 12 point (which helps). So, my resources will help me if I can know what the cap is and then shoot for a point or two under it and use them elsewhere thus hoping to get a good damage or speed slice and max out the weapon and not waste extra points. So, that is cool. It is all about conservation of your exp. points.

PS I haven't tried slicing yet under CURB. Is it still random or can you choose yet?

Well I spent some time slicing last night. I have to say I am not to impressed. 75% of my income came from slicing and now I have to depend on missions which isn't a bad thing. Anyway, the slicing I did last night was on quite a few different weapons purchased from random vendors. What I had noticed is what everyone else has been saying. There is a maximum that a % can go now. Highest speed slice out of 15 weapons (on live) was 16% and the highest on a damage slice was a 8%. Now this is the part that really gets me, the lowest for both types were in the negatives. I had-8% speed and a 0% damage slices. This was only tested on 15 weapons. None of them were from crates all with different serial numbers and each were from seperate weaponsmiths. I did this testing on Wanderhome and I have to say unless there is a change in the near future I don't see slicing as a very valued income anymore. Just my 2 cents.