Smuggler Archive

Thread: Smugglers dont want the loot system to do their jobs:) Sign here..

Romulus76
Thu Jun 30, 2005 2:48 pm
#27






DigiDante wrote:





Romulus76 wrote:





DigiDante wrote:
If you people are so against loot give alternatives.

At the moment I see slicing as:

-Something for the underworld / elite of the galaxies.
-Something no longer being on every vendor you open

Those in my opinion outweighs the loot. It's been 2 days and people are crying like babies.

Lets just give it a week n see how it goes. If anything, loot drops should be more frequent.





The point is it shouldn't be LOOT. We shouldn't have to kill Krayts in order to customize a weapon decently. The only thing smuggler's craft at all now is spice, of which, what 2 or 3 are actually useful? Not to mention those of us that have 1000's of pre-19 smuggler items that are now useless. If the implimentation of the new system had been better there may have been less complaining. But as is true to SOE form, yet again they push out a half-assed system.







Hmm... would you prefer each WUK and AUK use 2k different space resources?

I much rather enjoy loot hunting by killing chit then sitting in space for an hour to slice one item.





Why does it have to be in space? I still have a problem with "looting" anything from destroying a space ship. You should be forced to "disable" and /inspect to get anything from space and then destroy. But that is beside the point.


The point is that at slicing 2 we should get a schematic to craft simple toolkits, and actually have experimentation so that the best kits would be made with the best resources and experimentation.


At Slicing 4 we should get the schematic for the Finely "CRAFTED" Toolset. If it's crafted why does it have to be a loot? Drop us a schema.


Make the upper tier parts (mandalorian interframe, delicate trigger, etc) as a mission drop for Jabba or Borvo or Valarian where the quest is open ended like the "duty missions" of space. Can even keep the drops off the high end mobs so long as there's an alternative for those people that want to actually PLAY a smuggler the way the type of character was developed in the SW universe and not make them a freaking hunter/mass murderer.










NSiNSiNSiNSiNSiNSiNSiNSiNSiNSiNSiNSiNSiN//Thylor Tubrokk
SiNSiNSiNSiNSiNSiNSiNSiNSiNSiNSiNSiNSiNSi//Dark Jedi Enforcer
NSiNSiNSiNSiNSiNSiNSiNSiNSiNSiNSiNSiNSiN
SiNSiNSiNSiNSiNSiNSiNSiNSiNSiNSiNSiNSiNSi//Skylor Tubrokk
NSiNSiNSiNSiNSiNSiNSiNSiNSiNSiNSiNSiNSiN//Rogue - Fence
SiNSiNSiNSiNSiNSiNSiNSiNSiNSiNSiNSiNSiNSi
NSiNSiNSiNSiNSiNSiNSiNSiNSiNSiNSiNSiNSiN//Romulus'
SiNSiNSiNSiNSiNSiNSiNSiNSiNSiNSiNSiNSiNSi//Stalker - Marauder
NSiNSiNSiNSiNSiNSiNSiNSiNSiNSiNSiNSiNSiN
SiNSiNSiNSiNSiNSiNSiNSiNSiNSiNSiNSiNSiNSi


DigiDante
Thu Jun 30, 2005 2:50 pm
#28



Romulus76 wrote:


DigiDante wrote:


Romulus76 wrote:


DigiDante wrote:
If you people are so against loot give alternatives.

At the moment I see slicing as:

-Something for the underworld / elite of the galaxies.
-Something no longer being on every vendor you open

Those in my opinion outweighs the loot. It's been 2 days and people are crying like babies.

Lets just give it a week n see how it goes. If anything, loot drops should be more frequent.


The point is it shouldn't be LOOT. We shouldn't have to kill Krayts in order to customize a weapon decently. The only thing smuggler's craft at all now is spice, of which, what 2 or 3 are actually useful? Not to mention those of us that have 1000's of pre-19 smuggler items that are now useless. If the implimentation of the new system had been better there may have been less complaining. But as is true to SOE form, yet again they push out a half-assed system.





Hmm... would you prefer each WUK and AUK use 2k different space resources?

I much rather enjoy loot hunting by killing chit then sitting in space for an hour to slice one item.


Why does it have to be in space? I still have a problem with "looting" anything from destroying a space ship. You should be forced to "disable" and /inspect to get anything from space and then destroy. But that is beside the point.

The point is that at slicing 2 we should get a schematic to craft simple toolkits, and actually have experimentation so that the best kits would be made with the best resources and experimentation.

At Slicing 4 we should get the schematic for the Finely "CRAFTED" Toolset. If it's crafted why does it have to be a loot? Drop us a schema.

Make the upper tier parts (mandalorian interframe, delicate trigger, etc) as a mission drop for Jabba or Borvo or Valarian where the quest is open ended like the "duty missions" of space. Can even keep the drops off the high end mobs so long as there's an alternative for those people that want to actually PLAY a smuggler the way the type of character was developed in the SW universe and not make them a freaking hunter/mass murderer.






lol we should experiment on something that has absolutely no value towards experimentation.

class act.

and space MINING doesn't involve destroying chit in deep space.

I'm off to work, done argueing with a tard as such



Selusa Secundus - Elder Smuggler - September 2003.
Sheeana Secundus - Respec Jedi - Elder Carbineer @ heart.
Raylonis Del'Rathin - Elder Chef, Dancer - Retired / Canceled July 2005.
Leader of the fallen Guild, Veil of Silence.

Without the past, the future would never happen.
Believes in a better future for SWG.
Everytime a Rollback or Additional server thread is spawned SOE murders a kitten. Please... think of the kittens and stop this erradication.
SpinningCloud
Thu Jun 30, 2005 2:54 pm
#29


/sign


Why did you CHANGE the slicing concept from what we discussed for 5 months and you NEVER bothered to discuss back? Why the bait and switch SOE?


What's going to happen with our SMUGGLING content? The same thing? Switch what we discussed for 5 months with something as lame as your now infamous "Slicing Plan B"?


You, SOE, have not learned ONE THING about customer communication in the past two years since Live...not ONE THING.




Smuggler, Smuggler, Smuggler Pie, Two years of "Soon"(TM), a harsh bunch of lies.
Ask me a riddle and I reply: "Smuggler, Smuggler, Smuggler Pie"

Smuggler, Smuggler, Smuggler Pie, Dancers can't smuggle and neither can I.
Ask me a riddle and I reply: "Smuggler, Smuggler, Smuggler Pie."

Smuggler, Smuggler, Smuggler Pie, Why are there Jedi, I don't know why.
Ask me a riddle and I reply: "Smuggler, Smuggler, Smuggler Pie."

Turd_Ferguson523
Thu Jun 30, 2005 2:58 pm
#30



SpinningCloud wrote:
/sign
Why did you CHANGE the slicing concept from what we discussed for 5 months and you NEVER bothered to discuss back? Why the bait and switch SOE?
What's going to happen with our SMUGGLING content? The same thing? Switch what we discussed for 5 months with something as lame as your now infamous "Slicing Plan B"?
You, SOE, have not learned ONE THING about customer communication in the past two years since Live...not ONE THING.





In its current iteration, no, but I don't think they're done yet. Supposed to be 2 parts, lets see if they put in the graphical deal in the next part.



Makiino
I've found no people for killing time, so I found time for killing people
[Combat Medic] - [Master Rifleman]
Melting Imperials, from the IMPside out

22calibre
Thu Jun 30, 2005 3:19 pm
#31


/sign


all they need is for it to be craftable, we need uber space just to have parts to slice now, not to mention is it really better to be master if you all get the same outcome, and if it means that you cant use the uber delicate trigger, well it really don't sound that bad at the moment, ooooh an extra few % in speed, i have pre patch 19 T-21's that have sick slicing done to them compared, who cares i cant slice em, their UBER!






µ
v TARDUS GLORY v
GLORY - One name.All retards.
:::::::::::::: Alexander'::::::::::::::
Proudly Stating "I'm not Vaine", for over 6 months
-----------------------------------------
VAINE 'You see this name you think..."MUST KILL THE TARD"
WintheSmuggler
Thu Jun 30, 2005 5:32 pm
#32

for what good it will do....



/sign


Fossoyeur
Thu Jun 30, 2005 5:39 pm
#33

/sign
Jhazmin
Thu Jun 30, 2005 5:55 pm
#34

/sign
BattleSw0rd
Thu Jun 30, 2005 6:16 pm
#35

/sign


im not goin to the DWB to get some of the stuff thats needed...this is absolutely amazing



Colonel Driscale Kardde
Imperial Pilot Ace/Master Smuggler
KakTech Elite Weapons
Waypoint 4478, -5443 on Lok


"Courage Is Doing What You're Afraid To Do.
There Can Be No Courage Unless You're Scared"
--Frank Rickenbacher WWII US Ace Pilot

MaxisQuinn
Thu Jun 30, 2005 6:27 pm
#36


Amen


/sign



Maxis Wilde- Master Smuggler/Master Pistoller/Master Pilot ***Starsider***
Real Smugglers Don't Advertise. If you want the best you will find me. If not...you're on your own.
Komeu-Jr
Thu Jun 30, 2005 6:34 pm
#37

ditto, I'm not going to do the Death toFrosti Bunker solo just to get a tool for a one off slice.


Frosti /sign /sign (2 smugglers)


Master Pistoleer/Smugger
Master Weaponsmith/Smugger





Komeu-Jr - Mokeu
Shootin Blanks Weapons & Armor


SWG-Resources.com

atone48732
Thu Jun 30, 2005 6:36 pm
#38


indeed get rid of this loot required crap.. you shoulda tweaked the old system ya morons....*sigh



but doesn't affect me anymore anyways since unfortunatly I have dropped most of smuggler...




Message Edited by atone48732 on 06-30-2005 06:37 PM



Oelos Takushi: smuggler proud member of Oi and Smugglers alliance pilot..

Elalia Takushi: Dancer and rebel pilot and member of Oi
bring back TEras Kasi and the melee profs as expertise skills.. bring some fun and real diversification to SWG
DaPrez
Thu Jun 30, 2005 6:39 pm
#39






Wolph wrote:

/sign



and another idea.


Why not treat the looted parts like Krayt tissues etc?


Instead of a required part for a normal slice, make the looted pieces replacement "upgrades"


Current system stays as is with the removal of the loot parts. but...
If sliced with a dropped replacementpart, we can achive a certain % over 100 customization or maybe over dmg cap.


Make the drop parts something special, not a required part for a mediocre level slice.


We have joined the Jedi in being a profession where you MUST loot farm in order to perform your professional skills.




I agree with this 100%. But I am disappointed that this whole loot thing came about without some discussion.





KOVAI
Sexiest Zabrak in the Ahazi Galaxy
Some people call me a space cowboy....some call me a gangster of love TXF

Page 3 of 14