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Thread: So I went over to the Pistoleer Board to save their root shot from a nerf...

Spiderhammer
Thu Jun 16, 2005 12:12 pm
#27

its ok..


/comfort


your among friends.. have some pie


wanna pet the beaver?






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Ternque01
Thu Jun 16, 2005 12:14 pm
#28






Spiderhammer wrote:

its ok..


/comfort


your among friends.. have some pie


wanna pet the beaver?









LOL, I love you guys.


/petsBeaver


/smile





Axob Freelight
The non-Jedi are extinct. Their fire has gone out of the universe.
Ternque01
Thu Jun 16, 2005 12:21 pm
#29






Mentski wrote:

All these forums are just getting far too painful to watch now.


So many people flying off the handle, misreading posts whining. argh. cant stand it.


Barely played swg this week, either. losing... will... to... keep... going...








I lost the will to keep going twice now. Veela kept me in the game the first time by suggesting I go BH to kill Jedi to vent. I think the second time, I started gaining hope in things again.


My advice would be to do what you feel. It is what I did and I didn't end up in an asylum






Axob Freelight
The non-Jedi are extinct. Their fire has gone out of the universe.
Rogue135
Thu Jun 16, 2005 12:40 pm
#30







Ternque01 wrote:

A dev at Fan Fest propossed that roots and snares break upon further damage to the target. I read this from a credible source and have heard it from other credible posters.


So I go into their forum and call for attention to be brought to the issue so that their rooting shot, Stopping Shot doesn't befall this fate. I actually call for the correspondent's attention.


Well, I get the correspondent response and he says, "This is as of publish 18? Good, perma rooting was one of our top five issues. Now I can go and ask for a reduction in the recovery timer for stopping shot." I'm left sitting there thinking, "what the hell?". It is obvious that the correspondent didn't really read my post and that he assumed I was talking about the nerf which stopped players from being permarooted. Trust me, I think that was a good change.


Sooooo, I ask the correspondent if he actually READ what I wrote. So he comes back acting like I just insulted him, followed by a throng of other people on that forum who ALSO didn't actually read the post and ALSO thought I was just someone complaining that I couldn't chain root someone.


Let's just say that I had to tolerate alot of bull from their community, apparantly from a few of their upstanding members who also haven't read the original post at all.


So I go into the Pistoleer Forum today, hoping to aid them from getting their profession nerfed only to get the smart mouth from their most esteemed members.


I have been a pistoleer for a year and a half and have added much to their community, but after being treated like that for only trying to help (!!!), I am finding myself royally pissed off at their behavior.


Here is the thread if you are interested.






I've had a few issues with the Pistoleer Correspondant myself, namely the extreme lack of interest he seemed to express with the apparent loss of dodges. I know people keep saying we still have them, but I've yet to dodge once post-CU... I got a bit peeved with him on a few things, but I've held my tongue.


Edit: After reading the complete thread, I've gotta say, I think the whole knockdown dragout could have been avoided if the Correspondant hadn't been so sarcastic... this is the reason I avoid sending PM's to people I'm disagreeing with, they have a tendancy to not stay private.

Message Edited by Rogue135 on 06-16-2005 02:51 AM



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Isroz
Thu Jun 16, 2005 12:40 pm
#31

i just read that....i think the reason they got offended was becuz u mocked their corr......but he wasnt even listening to wat u were saying....that was pointless....they flamed you for trying to help them out....just let them be in ther enerfed state...we wont be suffering...they will....was a good try...but i guess good intentions are offensive these days



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nerfherder321
Thu Jun 16, 2005 12:59 pm
#32

its happening... jedi will rule galaxies completely....


without roots to stop them... our profession will be...well useless


already we are a "Shoot the guy and stun him so the Rifleman/BH can wipe them out for me"


as a smuggler, we are there to keep them in place and AWAY from you


but if it breaks on damage, if i stun him, i would have to run far far away, hope his buddy (if he has one) doesnt decide to duel him and deal...say 1 damage to him break the root and have him run


sure chain root was a *bit* unfair, but hey, we ARE Crowd Control 5 and SHOULD be able to stun these guys...



lets look at what would happen if roots became breakable on contact


Smuggler x roots jedi z and deals y damage


Smuggler x deals 200 damage to jedi z


jedi z heals himself for 1500 damage


smuggler x is knocked down


jedi z deals 500 damage


jedi z deals 1000 damage


jedi z deals 500 damage


you have been incapped


you have been deathblown



i imagine this kinda thing will happen






Cheat Fetto
Dragon942
Fri Jun 17, 2005 12:04 am
#33

Well from what I've seen here an all the other posts I've seen from Ternque01, I really don't doubt that you were trying to make a helpful post and just got jumped.


At the same time I've never seen anything but extremely useful and knowledgable posts from BadgerSmaker, so I don't know what the other people in this post were talking about.


Pistoleers and Smugglers have always exsisted in a symbiotic relationship pre-cu, and even now they remain closely linked as far as their abalities and role in combat. There is no reason for the two professions to be fighting, they should be working together.




Working together to nerf and eradicate Jedi, something everyone can enjoy.





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Starsider
Nifty
Fri Jun 17, 2005 12:09 am
#34






Dragon942 wrote:

Well from what I've seen here an all the other posts I've seen from Ternque01, I really don't doubt that you were trying to make a helpful post and just got jumped.


At the same time I've never seen anything but extremely useful and knowledgable posts from BadgerSmaker, so I don't know what the other people in this post were talking about.


Pistoleers and Smugglers have always exsisted in a symbiotic relationship pre-cu, and even now they remain closely linked as far as their abalities and role in combat. There is no reason for the two professions to be fighting, they should be working together.




Working together to nerf and eradicate Jedi, something everyone can enjoy.







We can nerf anderadicatethe glowstickies??? SWEET!!! I'm all for it! Down with the lightsabers!


Also, I didn't see the thread. Tern and Badg are both decent guys, and I respect both.


As for stouts... Young's Double Chocolate Stout is goooooood. I bet that would go great in the stout and chocolate pie!





Starsider: Abici Sselof, Master Entertainer, Musician and Pistoleer; Master Pilot
Daturaze
Fri Jun 17, 2005 12:22 am
#35








lurdanta wrote:

Too late...we've gone from the forgotten step child who lives alone in the basement to the neighborhood punching bag...we got BH's slapping Stormies to get incapped so they can use LD to take out a mark, BH's dueling each other in front of a mark to get their stats low so they can LD a mark...the list goes one...you have to give it to BHs for being so creative, but in the end we'll get nerfed and they will all drop smuggler and go on to some other profession...sigh..it's sad...for a short while I could actually do something with smuggler in combat, now we're going to be pushed back to our pre-CU complete uselessness...oh well at least we have a revamp coming...right?







Yep - I love hearing how BH adapt their attacks, some are just quite ingenious. That's why it frustrates the living bejesus out of me to hear people say "Well if a BH can s*rew me with the Last Ditch then we have to get the skill nerfed" because you can NOT stop a BH from finding the best attack combination and ways to pack the most punch in their assault.


I made the point in the Jedi forum that if you cry nerf over each tactic you're going to reduce the game to Jedi and Crafters as you steadily nerf each tactic the BH uses.


And uh, I like pie! yeah!





Datink_Nieleft
Fri Jun 17, 2005 6:48 am
#36






VegitoX wrote:





Datink_Nieleft wrote:






Daturaze wrote:


When Concussion shot is a mez, jedi will not be held at bay, I'm willing to bet a rather substantial horde of Pixie (or as I like to call the stash "my preccccccioooouusssss") that another jedi healing the mezz'd Jedi will break the state, or a bacta infusion wave will break it rendering it useless.


Given the history - I don't think I'm going to be that far off.


/sigh


Cheers


Dat








Oh sweet saints of revamps,...I just got one of those feelings reading this. Not the kind you get at a really good strip club, but the kind you get after having your buoys kicked into your main cargo hold.


Dang it Dat,...just when I was feeling all warm and toasty.







Im sorry, and maybe i've been misreading into things...but since when did Smugglers become the official Jedi stopper profession? I really wish folks would stip using our skills against Jedi as a barometer (sp) This calls unecessary attention to Smugglers in general.





I missed the jedi part when the light bulb went off in my head,......If I pvp (with anyone), and their partner heals them..then my mez is junk was what I was thinking. Hopefully this won't be the case or my participation in the GCW will end up like it was before. Meat for the cannon.


As far as offical jedi stopper, I wish we could just stop anyone. I like my toon to live on occasion.



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DarkonSlayer
Fri Jun 17, 2005 7:36 am
#37






BadgerSmaker wrote:

Ok... here we go...


I read Terneque01's post yesterday evening, and I was interested in the change he mentioned to chain rooting as I haven't had the opportunity to test it in Publish 18 yet. So I asked about it before commenting on the rumour from Fan Fest of Roots breaking on damage which I had already heard about.


I found his following post (and subsequent PM's) to be a bit too confrontationalfor my liking and replied with a sarcastic comment, I shouldn't have done... and I apologise.


I checked the thread this morning and Terneque01 and Iexchanged cordial posts about how I was not aware of anyplans to changeRoots to break on damage and I haven't looked at it for the past eight hours so I don't know what went on in the time it was deleted.


Sorry you got such a bad response to your post, if you want to bring something to my personal attention feel free to send me a PM.







Ok, if they are going to make roots break on dmg, then are they going to reduce the stopping shot timer cause if it going to break after you dmg them then its useless!

as it stands Stopping shot breaks before it is recharged to be used again!



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shfire
Fri Jun 17, 2005 7:40 am
#38




Why make the stopping shotbreak on damage? Don't we allredy have that? If I remember correctly the concussion shot allready roots and breaks on damage.

Message Edited by shfire on 06-17-2005 10:46 AM



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BadgerSmaker
Fri Jun 17, 2005 8:39 am
#39






shfire wrote:




Why make the stopping shotbreak on damage? Don't we allredy have that? If I remember correctly the concussion shot allready roots and breaks on damage.





Concussion Shot is supposed to break on damage, Stopping Shot is not.



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