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Thread: Respec brings up issues of Smuggler faithfulness...

rahzaar
Tue Jun 07, 2005 10:33 am
#27

Nothing challenges Smuggler in terms of coolnes.


And my question is, are you a smuggler, or a Smuggler? Because for a Smuggler, there is no other path, regardless of how nerf'd we get, or how the profession gets blown all to hell. There is only profession for us, and Smuggler is it.


The rest is just seasoning for the main dish.


Never drop Smuggler.


Tapoh
Tue Jun 07, 2005 10:44 am
#28






Phizuol wrote:





Tapoh wrote:
my only question is do I drop TKM for Pistoleer? that's my respec question...I like pimpin in sweet clothes...but tantel is da bomb!







Why do you need to change professions just for tantel? Master Smuggler gives you enough mitigation for a nice set of 5000/7000 tantel. Its all or nothing though, even the helmet will cancel your TKM armor so make sure you have a full suit.




no no...right now I wear no armor as a smuggler due to Tk armor...however if I drop TK for pistoleer I will have to wear recon armor as I get no TK armro and pistoleer and smuggler both cert recon....



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Phizuol
Tue Jun 07, 2005 10:51 am
#29



Tapoh wrote:


Phizuol wrote:


Tapoh wrote:
my only question is do I drop TKM for Pistoleer? that's my respec question...I like pimpin in sweet clothes...but tantel is da bomb!





Why do you need to change professions just for tantel? Master Smuggler gives you enough mitigation for a nice set of 5000/7000 tantel. Its all or nothing though, even the helmet will cancel your TKM armor so make sure you have a full suit.


no no...right now I wear no armor as a smuggler due to Tk armor...however if I drop TK for pistoleer I will have to wear recon armor as I get no TK armro and pistoleer and smuggler both cert recon....





You make it sound like you want to take Pistoleer so that you can wear tantel.




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Saarek
Tue Jun 07, 2005 10:51 am
#30

I dont know about the rest of you, but my snare on big game (torturs, kimos, etc...) dont work worth a damn.


Anyone else notice that?







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Bzzzz
Tue Jun 07, 2005 11:52 am
#31

It's all well and good to think of the new mez affect as an improvement, but without knowing about cooldown timers, pvp restrictions (because you know that an anti-jedi mez isn't going to fly) and diminishing returns, we really have no idea of how useful it's going to be.


Personally, under any circumstances I'm really leery of losing our only root. I'd really rather not have to double up on pistoleer if all I want is Stopping. Snare is no substitute. It's of no use in dungeons where CC is needed most, and it doesn't appear to work on larger critters. And with the retreat code active on most bad guys, kiting isn't an option.



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OWPT
Tue Jun 07, 2005 12:37 pm
#32

Even with the respec, it never even enterred my mind to drop Smuggler. I have been that way since the game officially started, and will never...well you get the idea.


Plus, with the revamp only a few months,(THAT'S BEING REALLY POSITIVE), away why would you want to change lol.






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darmokVtS
Tue Jun 07, 2005 12:43 pm
#33


Nicolas_Frost wrote:
I will say this YET AGAIN. Concussion Shot is not getting nerfed. It is being brought in line with its description. It will be a mesmerization skill, which can SHUT DOWN your target for up to 40 seconds. That means they can't attack, move, heal, change equipment, change posture, et cetera; untill the effect wears off or untill they take damage. This is more powerful than a simple root, because it takes opponents out of the fight temporarily, where as a root only takes melee opponents out of the fight, and only if they don't carry a ranged weapon which has no specific skill requirement. PLEASE STOP CALLING THIS A NERF!


Yup, while I surely like the chainrooting fun just as much as the next guy (that doesn't happen to be a meleer being targetted by it ), I also would love to have a shot that actually does what concussion shot is supposed to do, and I'm really looking forward for concussion shot finally doing what it is supposed to do, a very helpful skill for crowdcontrol.

Message Edited by darmokVtS on 06-07-2005 09:43 AM




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Dosi
Tue Jun 07, 2005 12:49 pm
#34

NEVAR!!!!

I haven't dropped my Master Smuggler title for anything. Even /tellhell didn't make me drop it, I worked around it thruogh the respec, and didn't even drop a single box. I am a smuggler to the marrow in my bones, and until either I quit this game, or the game quits me, I will be a smuggler.



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Oblox
Tue Jun 07, 2005 12:52 pm
#35



N_Dak_Moonrider wrote:
Why on Dantooine would I drop smuggler? I've been a smuggler forever, and forever shall I smuggle (in a manner of speaking.)

The concussion shot thing as it is, is excellent against melee and in groups on Dant going against bols (I'm a master commando and using a FT and concussion shot on a mob is AWESOME), but as I said, I've been a smuggler forever (October of '03) and intend to stay that way, even if concussion shot doesn't root anymore. Completely removing the target from the fight will be nice, even if it means I won't be able to solo melee mobs anymore.

And somebody tell the site admins to let the forums support FireFox... typing up a reply in FireFox only to remember after the fact that you can't even CLICK the submit button, is annoying.





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zakalex
Tue Jun 07, 2005 1:07 pm
#36


Now, remember I am highly biased in this post because I spend 95% of my time fighting creatures and don't want creatures breathing on me after I hit them once. But seems to me that this issue is going to divide the Smuggler community until CC is actually changed. Because half of us want to keep it a long lasting root and half want it as a mez like the description. Isn't there any kind of compromise that can be made? Maybe two different specials, say the first concussion we get is a root only and the improved concussion is the mez version? This way we can choose to use whichever is more appropriate to what we are fighting.


Anyways, thats my two credits


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Alpha_Bits
Tue Jun 07, 2005 1:11 pm
#37

It's already been said, but I cannot remain silent.


If the alteration of a single skill is making you consider respec-ing out of Smuggler, then you might as well do it.


If you're considering respec-ing out of Smuggler in order to PVP better, then you might as well do it.


If you're considering respec-ing out of Smuggler in order to grind out jedi quicker, you might as well do it.


Etc, etc.


If you ask someone why they're a Smuggler and expect something other than bravado and bonuses to sex appeal, then you don't quite get it yet.


But if you're here to BE a Smuggler rather than finishing up a template... well, then you know what I'm talking about.






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HaughtyElf
Tue Jun 07, 2005 1:27 pm
#38






Alpha_Bits wrote:

It's already been said, but I cannot remain silent.


If the alteration of a single skill is making you consider respec-ing out of Smuggler, then you might as well do it.


If you're considering respec-ing out of Smuggler in order to PVP better, then you might as well do it.


If you're considering respec-ing out of Smuggler in order to grind out jedi quicker, you might as well do it.


Etc, etc.


If you ask someone why they're a Smuggler and expect something other than bravado and bonuses to sex appeal, then you don't quite get it yet.


But if you're here to BE a Smuggler rather than finishing up a template... well, then you know what I'm talking about.









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What he said. When I was in beta, a smuggler is all I wanted to be, but I didn't sign up after rightaway. When I finally came back to SWG, I still wanted to be a smuggler, and that's what I'll be till they take this game down.


It's not about being uber, it's not about being the king. Its about having a fun and interstesting character.


I could not kill another things and simply hang out in cantina, swapping stores andstill havefun.






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JediArashi
Tue Jun 07, 2005 1:33 pm
#39






SBRD0C wrote:
/agree with nicolas

Even if concussion shot wsa being nerfed, I'm no FOTM Player, I've been smuggler since launch and intend to stay that way till the servers come crashing down into oblivion. You fair weather smugglers can swim for shore if you want, this captains going down with the ship.





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