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Thread: Holsters have existed since pre-beta .. so where are they?

Vampiric_Hoshi
Mon Sep 12, 2005 3:27 am
#27

Haywood, a file existing doesn't mean "it exists" ... it means that, possibly, one very small portion of it exists or maybe not even that.. maybe just a placeholder. Point is, no one knows except the developers and that in itself means the age old "believe it when I see it" line still exists.



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Tactical_Dave
Mon Sep 12, 2005 5:46 am
#28





KammaRocca wrote:

It's what all the cool smugglers are wearing this holiday season while they eat foraged bugs and admire their party poster.







Looks like somebody shrunk their laundry, ROFL




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Vampiric_Hoshi
Mon Sep 12, 2005 6:20 am
#29

There is no smuggling revamp, Jaim ... there's wishful thinking and a dissapointing smuggling system soon to be added (maybe) but no revamp. Even Squad Leaders are looking at their recent "revamp", scratching their heads and saying:


"Well ok so what did you actually change aside from renaming a few specials and giving us a couple useless commands that we wont ever use ... oh yeah and made it so we dont have to be group leader anymore which completely negates the term 'leader' in 'Squad Leader' ... thanks?"


I don't want to go the usual "if you arnt Jedi you don't belong in this game path" but it seems anything un-combat-related just doesn't fit their "scope of the game" .. and smuggling isn't combat related so it its at the bottom of the pile of things to be done and for that reason it will not get the required development time it needs ... just like our slicing system ... and wind up a half-arsed piece of crud... just like our slicing system.


/end_rant



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Jaim_Darkstryder
Mon Sep 12, 2005 7:06 am
#30



Vampiric_Hoshi wrote:
There is no smuggling revamp, Jaim ... there's wishful thinking and a dissapointing smuggling system soon to be added (maybe) but no revamp. Even Squad Leaders are looking at their recent "revamp", scratching their heads and saying:
"Well ok so what did you actually change aside from renaming a few specials and giving us a couple useless commands that we wont ever use ... oh yeah and made it so we dont have to be group leader anymore which completely negates the term 'leader' in 'Squad Leader' ... thanks?"
I don't want to go the usual "if you arnt Jedi you don't belong in this game path" but it seems anything un-combat-related just doesn't fit their "scope of the game" .. and smuggling isn't combat related so it its at the bottom of the pile of things to be done and for that reason it will not get the required development time it needs ... just like our slicing system ... and wind up a half-arsed piece of crud... just like our slicing system.
/end_rant






I know dude, I was being ironical



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Vampiric_Hoshi
Mon Sep 12, 2005 7:27 am
#31

good



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Haywood
Mon Sep 12, 2005 7:37 am
#32






Vampiric_Hoshi wrote:

Haywood, a file existing doesn't mean "it exists" ... it means that, possibly, one very small portion of it exists or maybe not even that.. maybe just a placeholder. Point is, no one knows except the developers and that in itself means the age old "believe it when I see it" line still exists.






I have know a few people that used the .tre files and have actually taken a virtual tour around the star destroyer outside the game. There were mods for the scout armor, BH armor, mando Armor and all the guns that we see now in the post CU since all of the graphics and the proper scaling for the art was in game. That is a lot more than just a placeholder.




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Vampiric_Hoshi
Mon Sep 12, 2005 10:07 am
#33

I'm not holding my breath on content because someone has hunted through a game file and claims to have taken a tour on an ISD.


The ISD interrior is part of the player-controlled Corellian Corvette mission. That was demonstrated for all to see in FanFest .. I don't doubt it's existance andI don't doubt that one day it'll finaly see the light of day. But my point is, like the gun holster belt that this thread is all about that has been sitting in one of those .tre files for over 2 years, there's no garuntee it will ever be anything more than a developer's dribble on an un-shaven pizza-stained chin.


Like I said previously, seems to me that anything non-ground-combat-orientated simply isn't getting a look-in. Take a look at all the recent profressions to have been modified/changed/revamped within the last 6 months or more and you get a list of things like Jedi, Bounty Hunter, Squad Leader, Creature Handler ... three of those have already seen more "changes" and even entire publishes than any other profression yet the non-combat community that are crying to for something to do are continuosly getting slapped in the face and told to pick up a lightsabre .... so, like I said, I'll believe it when I see it.





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CrimsonCommando
Mon Sep 12, 2005 11:04 am
#34

I have seen NPCs with the dual holsters on Tatooine...



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yimaz
Mon Sep 12, 2005 4:41 pm
#35

According to a very reliable source the reason we don't have gun belts is cause they cant figure out how to make your/my gun appear in the actual holster. The art for the belts is done (from what I understand) and whena Dev was told that we don't care if our gun is in the holster or not he said something like they never thought we would stand for a holster that did not have our guns in it. Take it for what it's worth..../shrug



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Zhagadska
Mon Sep 12, 2005 4:48 pm
#36

i actually have to agree...if i cant use a holster..then why would i want it?



but i'm probably in the minority there ...





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Vampiric_Hoshi
Tue Sep 13, 2005 7:26 am
#37


Well see this is where we have a split. Yes, I would like a gun holster that I can actually equip my blaster into but quite frankly I would be equaly as happy with a gun holster with a blaster built into it that is just for show.


You wear pants that have no function, belts, boots, gloves, shirts, jackets etc etc there is no reason why they couldn't add a non-functioning gun holster belt that is just "for looks" until at somepoint in the future they can make them work.


This is one of those occasions where things are not being added because of a minority of people saying "if i cant use a holster..then why would i want it?"




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Jaguarrr
Tue Sep 13, 2005 7:58 am
#38

You can see what gun someone holds in his hands. Therefore it should be possible for them to make it happen. The clipping errors that will occur are nothing new aswell, they happend with the CU when they redid the appearance of the commando weapons.


And for functionality, if you realy need one, make the quickdrawshot doing2x-3x damage when used as first shot out of a holster.



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Zenirvana
Tue Sep 13, 2005 8:06 am
#39

The sad fact is that smuggling and many other great ideas like holsters and duel weilding have not been added is that all the work of new content goes towards jedi. From all theposts I have readby smugglers in the smuggler forums and all the posts I have read by jedi in the jedi forums I have noticed that as a general rule that jedi whine like upset children throwing fits and smugglers complain with a little more maturity and only due to a looong lack of neglect. I can post this statement again and again and either the smuggler community knows it, has heard it or just hasnt realized it yet.



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