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Thread: Feign Death in PVP Views?

JP-Recon
Wed Dec 08, 2004 3:27 pm
#27

yeah, can you tell......I'm not bitter






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LM
Wed Dec 08, 2004 3:37 pm
#28






MISTagent01 wrote:





LM wrote:


So I ask this, sincerely -- is there any other profession that has a special that "was never meant for PVP?" I have not heard of one.


Lylak Moon







No, there isn't. At Fan Fest, one of the Hybrid panel devs said that FD was thesingle PvE-only move in the game.


And if anyone needs to know my feelings on this issue, you haven't been here for long.







Well... heh. I guess I shouldn't be surprised that Smuggler has the single "PVE-only" move in the game as one of its four combat specials.


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fishbrains
Wed Dec 08, 2004 5:04 pm
#29






CrashNgoBoom wrote:





LM wrote:





MISTagent01 wrote:





LM wrote:


So I ask this, sincerely -- is there any other profession that has a special that "was never meant for PVP?" I have not heard of one.


Lylak Moon







No, there isn't. At Fan Fest, one of the Hybrid panel devs said that FD was thesingle PvE-only move in the game.


And if anyone needs to know my feelings on this issue, you haven't been here for long.







Well... heh. I guess I shouldn't be surprised that Smuggler has the single "PVE-only" move in the game as one of its four combat specials.


Lylak Moon







/concealshot is a PvE only special. I personally hate FD being in PvP. It's ment to try and fool your opponent, not make you completely invincable. I have to admit though, I have used it when escaping from a TEF without wearing armor. However, when I'm overt, or if I have something like armor on to decay, I just take my DB and get it over with. Just because we are laying down not moving is reason to make it impossible for us to die.





yes however FD does not allow us to solo, without armor, the most powerfull MOB in the game



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JTGAlpha
Wed Dec 08, 2004 5:14 pm
#30

FD sucks whether it's PvE or PvP. It's no fun in PvP for ANYONE and it doesn't work in PvE.


It needs to end combat. Period. With a much higher chance to fail.



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fishbrains
Wed Dec 08, 2004 5:21 pm
#31






JTGAlpha wrote:

FD sucks whether it's PvE or PvP. It's no fun in PvP for ANYONE and it doesn't work in PvE.


It needs to end combat. Period. With a much higher chance to fail.





Seriouly man, some of my favorite PvP moments have been FD related. For example:


A buddy's guild was getting clone camped by a guild they were warring. I grouped with them and caust the gTEF wave and got killed a few times. Well one of my buddies had dotted this one guy to hell so that he had like 150 in all 3 bars left, the rest black. My buddy is FDing right by the cloner entrance and this mostly black barred fellow and another guy are beating him to hell(he had no armor on so no big deal).Both of them were taking all sorts of trash.


So I'm standing there unarmored/unbuffed with a TEF on this mostly black barred guy. My buddy is on vent with me and shouting 'DO IT JORAS!' in between laughing. So, one UnarmedHit3 and he was incapped, quick DB and feign. 5 min later after a good laugh in vent and a timely FD food break I was back, stood up, meditated the wounds and targeted the mostly black barred felow and did /wink and walked off.





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Ternque01
Wed Dec 08, 2004 8:28 pm
#32

FD in PvP = Fine


FD in Bounty Mission = Inappropriate



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Ipseck
Wed Dec 08, 2004 10:50 pm
#33



Korrack wrote:


gomi321 wrote:
Last night I was selling some faction at the imp outpost in dant when 2 overts attacked the st's. one was a cm and when the poison hit me i went down. the two rebs had fun blackbarring me while i was calling in help. My rescue team showed up incapped the two rebs. I jumped up, walked over to them and told them "You messed with the wrong smuggler". /deathblow x2.
I love being a dirty smuggler.
And I have been told by a csr that FD was not meant for use in PVP



Is it just me or is this your nightly event in game? Sell faction, get ganked, FD, call in help, kill attackers. I'm missing out on some fun




that sounds strangely familiar

I like to use FD tactically to bait people or stall them. Party leavin town and your group's almost ready but not quite? go in guns blazing and fd. They stick around long enough to grief you, which is usually all the time you need.

I also like to use a looping fd macro while doing faction purchases because I go afk quite frequently.





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fishbrains
Wed Dec 08, 2004 11:27 pm
#34






Ternque01 wrote:

FD in PvP = Fine


FD in Bounty Mission = Inappropriate






can I hear an AMEN!?



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Smuggler_Caylin
Thu Dec 09, 2004 5:58 am
#35

I report the camping sons of baznitches This Wonderful stance provided by JustG
in a Stratics HoC.

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JustG - Bottom line on camping? ANyone camping anyone
is griefing. Don't do it.




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Daturaze
Thu Dec 09, 2004 8:02 am
#36






Smuggler_Caylin wrote:

I report the camping sons of baznitches This Wonderful stance provided by JustG in a Stratics HoC.


JustG - Bottom line on camping? ANyone camping anyone is griefing. Don't do it.








hehehe judging from the times I've seen that happen recently JustG's line is about as effective as the government's "Just say No to Drugs" line.



KaiRan
Thu Dec 09, 2004 8:05 am
#37

But havent there been examples brought to light by members of our community od CSRs arriving on the scene of someone feigning and getting black bars to state "I see nothing wrong here" and leave? I'm at work now, will have to hunt for this one later in the day... but I remember it fairly distinctly.



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Waarangel
Thu Dec 09, 2004 10:45 am
#38

Actually, it used to work well in PVP where they couldn't attack you. That got changed for obvious reasons. Now, every Jeedai and their brother has FD. I personally think it should be moved up the DF tree. That way, dabblers can't have it, and we could have some additions to it, making it truly only for those who want to delve into our profession deeper.



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OrianaM
Fri Dec 10, 2004 12:17 pm
#39

I myself don't bother with FD in PvP. I figure why bother, I'm worth half the faction anyway, and inviting myself to a black barring over it just ain't worth it...PvE I use it all the time. Whether it's recovering from a state effect or simply looking at shapes in the clouds while the Black Sun Mercs burn to death. If it could be used strategically (ala holding griefers in place while reinforcements arrive) then great if you don't mind being black-barred (ala Smuggler/TKM templates) good for you. If you're a Jedi or BH using FD as a way of bypassing the xp/mission loss, shame on you.


Speaking purely for myself (this is ONLY my opinion so put the flamethrowers away - unless you're a commando like me, then just point it elswhere.) I wouldn't mind if they took away FD ability for PvP combat. (Meaning PCs say "Look she's lying there helpless, kill her!" while the NPCs shrug helplessly as they percive the PCs firing rounds into a corpse.)



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