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Thread: Non-smugg specific: Charging to train -or- Why I dont do work for some Guilds

Delroh
Tue May 18, 2004 1:10 am
#27






STLpMpNu wrote:





Delroh wrote:





STLpMpNu wrote:
Do you not understand what i'm writing or just not understand english.....
I HAVE NO PROBLEMS WITH TIPING I TIP VERY WELL FOR TRAINING I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH PAYING FOR TRAINING I HAVE PROBLEM WITH HIS ATTITUDE AND HOW HE RESPONDED BACK TO ME "WHAT IS IN IT FOR ME". WHICH RESULTED IN A ARGUMENT AND ME SAYING I WOULD RATHER PAY A NPC 100K THAN TO TIP YOU 1 CREDIT FOR TRAINING. THEN HE COMES HERE AND FLAMES OXYGEN ON THIS FORUM. Assuming that we wouldn't see it, Then apolgizes like he thinks it will fix anything.

Your blind read what people write. I wasn't the one who started the flame topic he did now he apolgizes thinking that will fix it. And all his other groupies ignoring what i write and responding to what they think i say.

Everyone is missing the point that he is the one who made this topic and i am defending myself and my guild.

My nic is STLpMpNu its been my nic for 5+ yrs of online gameing STL = ST.Louis pMpN u well try saying it and you will understand. Incase you don't already know number of games had a limit on how many characters a name could have and this is the result of my gaming.

p.s. Read the bold for those who have problems reading and understanding





WHAAAAAAAAA F'ing WHAAAAAAAAAA


Get over yourself there Pimpdaddy. If you dont like it move on and go pay the 100k for the training. i mean if you would have said, well its worth a set of buffs to me, none of this woudl have happened. who cares if you dont mind tipping. he asked you what it was worth to you. see its called bargining. your supposed to say. "well I am a Master Doc so how bout a set of Buffs", Or "well how does 10k sound"


Cuz if you're a Master Doc thats 1 set of buffs.


DIAL 911 !!!


PIMP IN DISTRESS!!!!!!!


oh yea and if you dont like it LEAVE!!!


God i hate Morons..........







Best ever, You sit there and preech on that IT IS STANDARD TO TIP IT IS HIS RIGHT TO ASK FOR TIP / PAYMENT but this was never in question and i tryed pointing this out however many times but some people don't listen, he got rude with me and i returned the favor. Was his attitude not mine that started this whole incident and you people are putting all the blame on me when he is the one who flamed my guild cause he can't handle a argument that he started.

My comment to him was 100% true i wouldn't pay him a dime with his attitude. You ask for service and someone says
"whats it worth to you" you are going to respond back with rude words most likely. Sure its his right to ask that if he wants but he shouldn't come crying on the forums when he gets a rude response back.

I say it again you read what i write but you only see what you want to see. Because its your friend maybe? You just assume he is right cause he has been posting here for whoever cares how long. I know i don't.

Anyway i'm sure you will only read half of what i write and only see it the way you want to see it and flame me some more so i am asking a mod yet again to close this pointless flame war.

BTW Good comeback with the crying and and going off on my name calling me a moron to that was briliant way to stand on your own feet and argue.

Just thought i would include these rules i read off these forums

Rule 1: We are all Here to Help
The purpose of these forums is to enable the members of the community to help each other in a constructive and positive atmosphere. If you are new to the forums and are unsure about anything, just ask! If you are an old hand and see new participants joining the forums, please welcome them and feel free to help them find their way!

Rule 2: Be Friendly and Courteous
Everyone wants to have a positive experience while on the Forums - please make sure that you contribute to it. Please do not post anything harassing, threatening, abusive, lewd, or inflammatory. Flaming people, products, or organizations is never acceptable. Neither is trolling. Instead, be friendly, helpful, and supportive.

Rule 3: Be Relevant
Please stay on topic. These Forums are provided to enable members to help each other in sharing their passion for the game. Please refrain from discussing personal matters, abusing any company or product, or, in general, from posting in a manner unrelated to the direct purposes expected in the Forums.

I see you personall have broken all 3 of these rules.


See i live in this place called the real world, And i know that if i ask someone for somethign and get a rude respoce to walk the hell away and not try to get into it with them. it does nothign but make you look stupid. this is a econ driven server. you got a choice to go to a trainer or get trainde d form someone and they also ahve the chance to charge you for it. if you dont like it fine. But who gives a flying F if he was rude to you./ thats what /ignore is for. Ever think he coudl have jsut lost his girlfriend, or perhaps his grandma died. Or gee perhaps he could be RP. who knows but it does nothing for you to be rude back. All you did was feed it.


I understand what you wrote and I only blaime you for one thing even responding to him in tells int eh first palce. learn to walk away. and stop crying. No i dont blaime you for tryign to defend yourself. but you went about it the wrong way.


And for Rule #1 I am tryign to help you find your way and stop making drama where we dont need it. and no im not whoever the main posters friend, I am a Smuggler and have been in the same position on both sides. but you dont see me on here whining about it.




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JamfeFabri
Tue May 18, 2004 3:24 am
#28





STLpMpNu wrote:





Delroh wrote:





STLpMpNu wrote:
Do you not understand what i'm writing or just not understand english.....
I HAVE NO PROBLEMS WITH TIPING I TIP VERY WELL FOR TRAINING I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH PAYING FOR TRAINING I HAVE PROBLEM WITH HIS ATTITUDE AND HOW HE RESPONDED BACK TO ME "WHAT IS IN IT FOR ME". WHICH RESULTED IN A ARGUMENT AND ME SAYING I WOULD RATHER PAY A NPC 100K THAN TO TIP YOU 1 CREDIT FOR TRAINING. THEN HE COMES HERE AND FLAMES OXYGEN ON THIS FORUM. Assuming that we wouldn't see it, Then apolgizes like he thinks it will fix anything.

Your blind read what people write. I wasn't the one who started the flame topic he did now he apolgizes thinking that will fix it. And all his other groupies ignoring what i write and responding to what they think i say.

Everyone is missing the point that he is the one who made this topic and i am defending myself and my guild.

My nic is STLpMpNu its been my nic for 5+ yrs of online gameing STL = ST.Louis pMpN u well try saying it and you will understand. Incase you don't already know number of games had a limit on how many characters a name could have and this is the result of my gaming.

p.s. Read the bold for those who have problems reading and understanding





WHAAAAAAAAA F'ing WHAAAAAAAAAA


Get over yourself there Pimpdaddy. If you dont like it move on and go pay the 100k for the training. i mean if you would have said, well its worth a set of buffs to me, none of this woudl have happened. who cares if you dont mind tipping. he asked you what it was worth to you. see its called bargining. your supposed to say. "well I am a Master Doc so how bout a set of Buffs", Or "well how does 10k sound"


Cuz if you're a Master Doc thats 1 set of buffs.


DIAL 911 !!!


PIMP IN DISTRESS!!!!!!!


oh yea and if you dont like it LEAVE!!!


God i hate Morons..........







Best ever, You sit there and preech on that IT IS STANDARD TO TIP IT IS HIS RIGHT TO ASK FOR TIP / PAYMENT but this was never in question and i tryed pointing this out however many times but some people don't listen, he got rude with me and i returned the favor. Was his attitude not mine that started this whole incident and you people are putting all the blame on me when he is the one who flamed my guild cause he can't handle a argument that he started.

My comment to him was 100% true i wouldn't pay him a dime with his attitude. You ask for service and someone says
"whats it worth to you" you are going to respond back with rude words most likely. Sure its his right to ask that if he wants but he shouldn't come crying on the forums when he gets a rude response back.

I say it again you read what i write but you only see what you want to see. Because its your friend maybe? You just assume he is right cause he has been posting here for whoever cares how long. I know i don't.

Anyway i'm sure you will only read half of what i write and only see it the way you want to see it and flame me some more so i am asking a mod yet again to close this pointless flame war.

BTW Good comeback with the crying and and going off on my name calling me a moron to that was briliant way to stand on your own feet and argue.

Just thought i would include these rules i read off these forums

Rule 1: We are all Here to Help
The purpose of these forums is to enable the members of the community to help each other in a constructive and positive atmosphere. If you are new to the forums and are unsure about anything, just ask! If you are an old hand and see new participants joining the forums, please welcome them and feel free to help them find their way!

Rule 2: Be Friendly and Courteous
Everyone wants to have a positive experience while on the Forums - please make sure that you contribute to it. Please do not post anything harassing, threatening, abusive, lewd, or inflammatory. Flaming people, products, or organizations is never acceptable. Neither is trolling. Instead, be friendly, helpful, and supportive.

Rule 3: Be Relevant
Please stay on topic. These Forums are provided to enable members to help each other in sharing their passion for the game. Please refrain from discussing personal matters, abusing any company or product, or, in general, from posting in a manner unrelated to the direct purposes expected in the Forums.

I see you personall have broken all 3 of these rules.


See i live in this place called the real world, And i know that if i ask someone for somethign and get a rude respoce to walk the hell away and not try to get into it with them. it does nothign but make you look stupid. this is a econ driven server. you got a choice to go to a trainer or get trainde d form someone and they also ahve the chance to charge you for it. if you dont like it fine. But who gives a flying F if he was rude to you./ thats what /ignore is for. Ever think he coudl have jsut lost his girlfriend, or perhaps his grandma died. Or gee perhaps he could be RP. who knows but it does nothing for you to be rude back. All you did was feed it.


I understand what you wrote and I only blaime you for one thing even responding to him in tells int eh first palce. learn to walk away. and stop crying. No i dont blaime you for tryign to defend yourself. but you went about it the wrong way.


And for Rule #1 I am tryign to help you find your way and stop making drama where we dont need it. and no im not whoever the main posters friend, I am a Smuggler and have been in the same position on both sides. but you dont see me on here whining about it.




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Think it was the caps that made most people think "whiner"....... That (an no offense, ie not trying to flame or insult) the forum name yer using doesn't exaclty give a great impression........ But meh, sooner you all get over it the better.....



That an I personally don't think "What's it worth to you?" is that rude..... Heh lot ruder stuff going around.... For future occurances try playing along a bit, half the time its a bored roleplayer (hell i know ive used that saying now an then when bored (an yea im an rper)).....


But like i said..... Meh get over it already, far as i see it yer attitude isn't exactly squeaky clean either.....




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"In an effort to combat the Imperial technological superiority with such innovative designs as the ATST, our rebellion scientists have come up with a weapon more devasting than 3 Death Stars....... KAMIKAZE EWOKS!" - Some head honcho for the rebels, was later promoted and dubbed "Hero of the Rebellion"

5 star ninja
~~~~~~~~~~
KaiRan
Tue May 18, 2004 6:36 am
#29


Guys, stop.


STLpMpNu isultimately in theright here- He and BrokenArrow have every right to be mad about my putting the Guild's name in the original subject lineof my post. It makes any other point I may have had, no matter how valid or invalid, irelevant. There is no need toflame himabout it. I may not agree with his view of or reaction to the situation, and I might not agree with his take on paying to train, but I definitely agree with his right to be mad about the post's original title. It is his prerogative not to accept my apology for it, and I hold no grudge over that.


If you still feel strongly enough to add your voice to this discussion, I ask that you do so in rating posts rather than adding verbal firewood to this. I am willing to let this post die- everything that needs to be said, has.



STLpMpNu, you asked earlier that this post be locked, and while we may not agree on some things, I definitely agree with you on that. Caylin, would yoube so kind as to shut this down before it goes further?





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Smuggler_Caylin
Tue May 18, 2004 11:47 am
#30

If it continues, I will ask.



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STLpMpNu
Tue May 18, 2004 12:20 pm
#31



Delroh wrote:


STLpMpNu wrote:
Do you not understand what i'm writing or just not understand english.....
I HAVE NO PROBLEMS WITH TIPING I TIP VERY WELL FOR TRAINING I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH PAYING FOR TRAINING I HAVE PROBLEM WITH HIS ATTITUDE AND HOW HE RESPONDED BACK TO ME "WHAT IS IN IT FOR ME". WHICH RESULTED IN A ARGUMENT AND ME SAYING I WOULD RATHER PAY A NPC 100K THAN TO TIP YOU 1 CREDIT FOR TRAINING. THEN HE COMES HERE AND FLAMES OXYGEN ON THIS FORUM. Assuming that we wouldn't see it, Then apolgizes like he thinks it will fix anything.

Your blind read what people write. I wasn't the one who started the flame topic he did now he apolgizes thinking that will fix it. And all his other groupies ignoring what i write and responding to what they think i say.

Everyone is missing the point that he is the one who made this topic and i am defending myself and my guild.

My nic is STLpMpNu its been my nic for 5+ yrs of online gameing STL = ST.Louis pMpN u well try saying it and you will understand. Incase you don't already know number of games had a limit on how many characters a name could have and this is the result of my gaming.

p.s. Read the bold for those who have problems reading and understanding


WHAAAAAAAAA F'ing WHAAAAAAAAAA
Get over yourself there Pimpdaddy. If you dont like it move on and go pay the 100k for the training. i mean if you would have said, well its worth a set of buffs to me, none of this woudl have happened. who cares if you dont mind tipping. he asked you what it was worth to you. see its called bargining. your supposed to say. "well I am a Master Doc so how bout a set of Buffs", Or "well how does 10k sound"
Cuz if you're a Master Doc thats 1 set of buffs.
DIAL 911 !!!
PIMP IN DISTRESS!!!!!!!
oh yea and if you dont like it LEAVE!!!
God i hate Morons..........





Best ever, You sit there and preech on that IT IS STANDARD TO TIP IT IS HIS RIGHT TO ASK FOR TIP / PAYMENT but this was never in question and i tryed pointing this out however many times but some people don't listen, he got rude with me and i returned the favor. Was his attitude not mine that started this whole incident and you people are putting all the blame on me when he is the one who flamed my guild cause he can't handle a argument that he started.

My comment to him was 100% true i wouldn't pay him a dime with his attitude. You ask for service and someone says
"whats it worth to you" you are going to respond back with rude words most likely. Sure its his right to ask that if he wants but he shouldn't come crying on the forums when he gets a rude response back.

I say it again you read what i write but you only see what you want to see. Because its your friend maybe? You just assume he is right cause he has been posting here for whoever cares how long. I know i don't.

Anyway i'm sure you will only read half of what i write and only see it the way you want to see it and flame me some more so i am asking a mod yet again to close this pointless flame war.

BTW Good comeback with the crying and and going off on my name calling me a moron to that was briliant way to stand on your own feet and argue.

Just thought i would include these rules i read off these forums

Rule 1: We are all Here to Help
The purpose of these forums is to enable the members of the community to help each other in a constructive and positive atmosphere. If you are new to the forums and are unsure about anything, just ask! If you are an old hand and see new participants joining the forums, please welcome them and feel free to help them find their way!

Rule 2: Be Friendly and Courteous
Everyone wants to have a positive experience while on the Forums - please make sure that you contribute to it. Please do not post anything harassing, threatening, abusive, lewd, or inflammatory. Flaming people, products, or organizations is never acceptable. Neither is trolling. Instead, be friendly, helpful, and supportive.

Rule 3: Be Relevant
Please stay on topic. These Forums are provided to enable members to help each other in sharing their passion for the game. Please refrain from discussing personal matters, abusing any company or product, or, in general, from posting in a manner unrelated to the direct purposes expected in the Forums.

I see you personall have broken all 3 of these rules.



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STLpMpNu
Wed May 19, 2004 1:27 am
#32

Even though we had a flamewar on starwars and starters here in the forums i will accept the apology because he is putting a effort to fix the flameing on my guild. We have diffrent views under normal circumstances i prolly wouldn't have been so rude on a response to that so i think we both overreacted so i suggest clossing this while the 2 partys of any relevance have agreed on it. Plz close the topic



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MobusDyrus
Wed May 19, 2004 2:28 am
#33

Bah! You did nothing wrong! You know, I've been seein' more posts lately about how sinful roleplay is. It's sad...The great thing about SWG is the chance to be part of the SW universe! And you can't do that by playing a game, you have to immerse yourself, by roleplaying! Everyone expects the devs to do it for them, "MORE CONTENT!" But if they just roleplayed a little, they'd see the beauty of playing this game. I myself don't even try to roleplay anymore. It's no use if no one roleplays back. But I'll give it another go...perhaps if more of us start to roleplay, other people will see how much fun it is and start to catch on.



Mobus Dyrus
- Professional Scoundrel -
Chilastra
JamfeFabri
Wed May 19, 2004 2:36 am
#34

well if both agree tae end it, then lets end it....


As fer roleplaying (person above me) theres a few rp communities runnin around, dont know any on chil but i know of at least one on eclipse.....



an sorry i meant no offense tae ya name (directed to stl now).... was jus sayin is all, so im leavin it...



~~~~~~~~~~
"In an effort to combat the Imperial technological superiority with such innovative designs as the ATST, our rebellion scientists have come up with a weapon more devasting than 3 Death Stars....... KAMIKAZE EWOKS!" - Some head honcho for the rebels, was later promoted and dubbed "Hero of the Rebellion"

5 star ninja
~~~~~~~~~~
STLpMpNu
Wed May 19, 2004 5:43 am
#35

talking about role playing? You don't need to get this big elaborite thing to happen to actually roleplay. Everything you do is part of the swg universe you do missions for bountys an so on and on you buy medicail supplys guns make guns i mean shoot its a whole world. So to say it isn't role playing i think your just expecting to much.

And anyway bout this whole topic was unfortunate that my first set of posts had to do with this topic but i guess thats just what happens sometimes.



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NoS Chef Vendor -1941 -4546
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