Smuggler Archive
Thread: This is not a please read post.
Ulysses_31
Fri Jun 10, 2005 1:35 pm
#27
What will happen to weapons that have already been sliced? Will we be able to 'reset' them and slice them again under the new system?
Daturaze
Fri Jun 10, 2005 1:35 pm
#28
I would've liked to hear more about just how many publishes Smuggler should be expecting in the next little bit now that we know we're not getting a full revamp.
Quite happy about slicing, but is that it?
Red-Dwarf
Fri Jun 10, 2005 1:39 pm
#29
You may want to also ask her to make sure the most efficient QA process is being done, cause at present it isn't and that is delaying your work being put to good use.
JFreeman wrote:
Ah. It's pretty neat. I'll recommend this for a Friday Feature when Tiggs stops by to yell at me for replying to a "PLEASE READ"-thread.
Ramsey_Lanclo wrote:
Fair enough... How about telling us _WHAT_ it is? There was an "In Concept" a couple months ago, but we've been told that it changed from that... How about letting us in on what's coming "soon"?
Alpha_Bits
Fri Jun 10, 2005 1:39 pm
#30
Geez, some people are never happy!!! A dev comes in and talks about a torpedo heading to the USS Smuggler and you're still not happy?
...
um... waitaminute... that sounds ominous...
Thanks, JFreeman! Looking forward to the changes.
XrioT
Fri Jun 10, 2005 1:42 pm
#31
JFreeman wrote:
Ah. It's pretty neat. I'll recommend this for a Friday Feature when Tiggs stops by to yell at me for replying to a "PLEASE READ"-thread.
Ramsey_Lanclo wrote:
Fair enough... How about telling us _WHAT_ it is? There was an "In Concept" a couple months ago, but we've been told that it changed from that... How about letting us in on what's coming "soon"?
ROFL!
Thanks a lot for the info! Hopefully your name doesn't 'slip' from red to pink 
Jabourn
Fri Jun 10, 2005 1:51 pm
#32
JFreeman wrote:
The new slicing system is done.
Keep in mind, once a dev finishes a project like that, he checks it in. It goes into our version control software ... and we have little control over when it will get to you. Sometimes the developer isn't even 100% sure which publish his change will be in: the next one, or the one after that?
At that point, it's in for an upcoming publish with a lot of other stuff. Any of that "other stuff" could delay the publish. Or we could hear back from QA, "We don't have time to test that properly, so let's hold it for the next publish and give ourselves time to test all this other stuff." Or this could delay the publish itself. Or we could discover other issues with it in testing that cause us to sit on it for another publish, and so on. Really, anything could happen.
Most of the time, nothing bad happens, we haven't scheduled anything that requires more QA time than QA can accommodate, and what we check-in arrives on Live servers when it's supposed to. But this is just not something we can promise, so we try not to do that.
This particular torpedo has left the tube, but we can't say when precisely it will make contact with the USS Smuggler.
"Soon".
Oh! Oh! oh!! I bet you think you are soooo cool with your precise explanation, and timely communication... Err wait... I guess you are!
Thanks a million just for coming here and saying something, it's hugely appreciated! 
Phizuol
Fri Jun 10, 2005 1:59 pm
#33
JFreeman wrote:Ah. It's pretty neat. I'll recommend this for a Friday Feature when Tiggs stops by to yell at me for replying to a "PLEASE READ"-thread.
Ramsey_Lanclo wrote:
Fair enough... How about telling us _WHAT_ it is? There was an "In Concept" a couple months ago, but we've been told that it changed from that... How about letting us in on what's coming "soon"?
See, this is the sort of thing that really makes a difference in a player community. A straight answer. I'm getting so tired of this, "If we don't tell them they can't be disappointed" BS. Kudos to you JFreeman for taking some heat to snitch to us Smugglers.
HaughtyElf
Fri Jun 10, 2005 2:19 pm
#34
JFreeman wrote:
The new slicing system is done.
Keep in mind, once a dev finishes a project like that, he checks it in. It goes into our version control software ... and we have little control over when it will get to you. Sometimes the developer isn't even 100% sure which publish his change will be in: the next one, or the one after that?
At that point, it's in for an upcoming publish with a lot of other stuff. Any of that "other stuff" could delay the publish. Or we could hear back from QA, "We don't have time to test that properly, so let's hold it for the next publish and give ourselves time to test all this other stuff." Or this could delay the publish itself. Or we could discover other issues with it in testing that cause us to sit on it for another publish, and so on. Really, anything could happen.
Most of the time, nothing bad happens, we haven't scheduled anything that requires more QA time than QA can accommodate, and what we check-in arrives on Live servers when it's supposed to. But this is just not something we can promise, so we try not to do that.
This particular torpedo has left the tube, but we can't say when precisely it will make contact with the USS Smuggler.
"Soon".
/tar Jfreeman;
/offer pie;
/offer beer;
/offer first born;
/salute;
/grovel;
/applaud;
Man, you don't know how many friends in here you just made. And to stress, an update to the In Concept Docs or even a nice post here with what the new systems is so we can look at it and ask some questions would be great as well. But even just what you said is a big thing. THANKS!
/cheer;
Message Edited by HaughtyElf on 06-10-2005 04:25 PM
Oracle74
Fri Jun 10, 2005 2:25 pm
#35
JFreeman wrote:
Ah. It's pretty neat. I'll recommend this for a Friday Feature when Tiggs stops by to yell at me for replying to a "PLEASE READ"-thread.
Ramsey_Lanclo wrote:
Fair enough... How about telling us _WHAT_ it is? There was an "In Concept" a couple months ago, but we've been told that it changed from that... How about letting us in on what's coming "soon"?
ROFL!
KyleKnox
Fri Jun 10, 2005 2:26 pm
#36
Now thats funny...and the kind of dev attitude this game and community soooo sorely needs...GG
JFreeman wrote:
Ah. It's pretty neat. I'll recommend this for a Friday Feature when Tiggs stops by to yell at me for replying to a "PLEASE READ"-thread.
Ramsey_Lanclo wrote:
Fair enough... How about telling us _WHAT_ it is? There was an "In Concept" a couple months ago, but we've been told that it changed from that... How about letting us in on what's coming "soon"?
TK42I
Fri Jun 10, 2005 2:36 pm
#37
JFreeman wrote:
The new slicing system is done.
Keep in mind, once a dev finishes a project like that, he checks it in. It goes into our version control software ... and we have little control over when it will get to you. Sometimes the developer isn't even 100% sure which publish his change will be in: the next one, or the one after that?
At that point, it's in for an upcoming publish with a lot of other stuff. Any of that "other stuff" could delay the publish. Or we could hear back from QA, "We don't have time to test that properly, so let's hold it for the next publish and give ourselves time to test all this other stuff." Or this could delay the publish itself. Or we could discover other issues with it in testing that cause us to sit on it for another publish, and so on. Really, anything could happen.
Most of the time, nothing bad happens, we haven't scheduled anything that requires more QA time than QA can accommodate, and what we check-in arrives on Live servers when it's supposed to. But this is just not something we can promise, so we try not to do that.
This particular torpedo has left the tube, but we can't say when precisely it will make contact with the USS Smuggler.
"Soon".
So what you are saying is that it is QA's fault for all the troubles in the world; war, hunger, poverty? I agree, lets hit them with a torpedo....
Maybe that is toodrastic.This time they go to bed without dessert. But next time.....
Kylania
Fri Jun 10, 2005 2:38 pm
#38
I appreciate the dev response, but it's the same line we've been getting for two years. "Soon". Till it's ON the Live Servers nothing any dev can say will make a difference at this point. They say it's "done", well, we can't see it or test it or use it. That's not "done" as far as Smugglers are concerened. As far as we know more Jedi fixes might push the Smuggler Slice fix back even furthur. Till than I guess as a Master Smuggler I'll keep slicing things for 3.45% (even though it says 8%) when it should be 16% I guess.
Thanks for saying Hi, but till my Smuggler can use the new system no amount of saying "it's done" or "Soon" will matter. I'd go tell QA to get their butts in gear if it's really done, coz all our anger is on the Devs at this point. It's not QA that's been promising "Soon" for years.
Thanks for saying Hi, but till my Smuggler can use the new system no amount of saying "it's done" or "Soon" will matter. I'd go tell QA to get their butts in gear if it's really done, coz all our anger is on the Devs at this point. It's not QA that's been promising "Soon" for years.
Roscannon
Fri Jun 10, 2005 2:38 pm
#39
fixed
JFreeman wrote:
The new slicing system is done.
Keep in mind, once a dev finishes a project like that, he checks it in. It goes into our version control software ... and we have little control over when it will get to you. Sometimes the developer isn't even 100% sure which publish his change will be in: the next one, or the one after that?
At that point, it's in for an upcoming publish with a lot of other stuff. Any of that "other stuff" could delay the publish. Or we could hear back from QA, "We don't have time to test that properly, so let's hold it for the next publish and give ourselves time to test all this other stuff." Or this could delay the publish itself. Or we could discover other issues with it in testing that cause us to sit on it for another publish, and so on. Really, anything could happen.
Most of the time, nothing bad happens, we haven't scheduled anything that requires more QA time than QA can accommodate, and what we check-in arrives on Live servers when it's supposed to. But this is just not something we can promise, so we try not to do that.
This particular torpedo has left the tube, but we can't say when precisely it will make contact with the USS Smuggler.
"Soon™".