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In itself a petition carries little weight in an undemocratic system.

To cause change one must convince the P.T.B. that a problem exists, and there is a way to correct it with the resources at hand.

Unfortantly in this case, there are no resources to turn to the Smuggler's revamp, all focus is said to be upon JTL and the CR. And as none of us know for certain, we may as well accept that at face value. Once at least one of those drops through the pipeline, then there's a chance that they'll turn to the Smugglers.

Sure, the smugglers have gotten the short end of the stick quite a number of times. But I suspect that there's more reasons to it than simple spite. We are, after all, dealing with multi corperation entity.

Message Edited by DyrthVyder on 09-14-2004 12:59 AM

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Smuggler_Caylin wrote:

Ok, this is the truth as I see. Perceived truth however may not be fact so be advised.

1. Smuggler Revamp:




• Where we would get actual smuggler content.


• ETA: Sometime after JTL Launch and Combat Revamp.




• Correspondent is optimistic and thinks around February of 2005 as opposed to September of 2005. This is not a time given by SOE, this is a correspondent best-guess given facts and information I have accumulated. Can easily be wrong and probably will be.
  
  


2. We will not get a revamp any sooner than after the Combat Revamp and JTL launch.




• JTL and Combat Revamp areSOE's #1 priorities at this time.


• GreenMarine - He is working on JTL virtually 24/7and when that workis done, I am told he will be working onSmugglers ASAP.


• Protests demanding an earlier smuggler revamp, etc are not going to get us any closer to our revamp. Don't waste your time with them.
  
  


3. JTL is not a smuggler revamp.




• Don't expect your smuggling role to dramatically improve or for that matter exist in the first place at thelaunch of JTL.


• Mechanics are there to allow for a smuggling role in the future, not at release.


• We will have room to grow as the expansion grows and our Revamp approaches.


• JTL kicks ass in many ways, and there is room for roleplaying though we do not specifically have something to do as aSmuggler profession. We will have to wait for that. Yes I'm aware I'm repeating myself, I'm doing it to make this abundantly clear.
  
  


4. Combat Revamp:




• We do have a place in the combat revamp so many of our skills and role in combat will be looked at and changed.


• Many changes to our skills will take place during the Combat Revamp.




• If it affects combat, it will be affected by this revamp. This includes other skills smugglers possess that have some relation to combat and items used in combat.

I don't think I've broken any rules with what I've said here, so knock yourselves out.

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1. Smuggler Revamp: First with the Hoildays coming up AND the release of JTL AND the fact that the revamp Docs have not been released AND the last "In Development" posts, which are down now, stated Pub 11 in March 2005. I cannot see a revamp before May 2005, probably later. Note: no comments other than "we are looking into the auto-pull prob we introduced in Pub 10" this is indicative of our standing in the community.


2. We will not get a revamp any sooner than after the Combat Revamp and JTL launch: Agree


3. JTL is not a smuggler revamp: Yes many proffesions will be able to "Smuggle" according to the current JTL info.


4. Combat Revamp: One line of our skills is devoted to Combat, with no input it is tough to say how we will be affected. Probably reductions in slice effets in order to keep balance. Again probably half of what they are now, but still needed.

In his famous Stratics interview, didn't Blackman indicate that a smuggler revamp wouldn't happen until after a GCW rework, and then we'd wait to be lumped in with Squad-Leaders? So did you mean March 2006?

And I disagree that an in-game protest wouldn't accomplish anything.. as we may remember from the credit-dupe thing, some protesters got an early look into the JTL beta.

-Zz

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DyrthVyder wrote:

if you bothered to read what I said

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Drop the snippy attitude; I read it. Just because you personally won't hold a protest in the game doesn't mean others won't.

Anyway, as others have said this discussion is pointless, as was the revival of this thread in the first place in my opinion.

Message Edited by KaernLegorah on 09-14-2004 03:28 PM

Er, back when we did that 1000-post protest thread over one weekend, it resulted in one of the first (the first? My memory's going) dev posts in this forum along with the first promise that smugglers would see some attention. They went so far as to say we were the ones needing the most love!

Of course it was all a horrible lie, but for two, three, maybe even four days, they knew the smuggler profession existed.