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Endjinneer

Sun May 15, 2005 6:14 pm

where does this one hit kill come from?

to use last ditch you must of been allready fighting to get your health and action down to a level to use it

that implys serveral hits folks

that's right notone hit but serveral before you use last ditch

as you can see you need more than one hit in a fight to use it

simple people can't make this distinction though, the people with more than one brain cell can so it's pointless to continue trying to explain it to them

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AarunLightseeker

Sun May 15, 2005 7:55 pm

#28

/Agreed!

Only BH "Smugglers" are complaining about OUR abilities!

Trust me, I saw a Jedi take out 5 BH's that used LastDitch against him, they incapped themselves!

I saw the combat log! They kept coming back and used "LastDitch" and again were incapped, he just walked over and DB'd them.. then they accused him of exploiting. LMAO!

He even told then NOT to use LastDitch! It no longer works as it once did!

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AarunLightseeker

Sun May 15, 2005 9:41 pm

#29

Sorry, but this IS Star Wars.. Jedi are apart of Star Wars. I don't have a problem with them, and NO I don't have, nor do I intend to have one.

YES, I am FS, and did plan to ONLY go up LUCK before CU.. Now I can't (Thanks to needing Range Support for Pistoleer)

But no one should talk about "time line" because Ive been playing for almost 2 years... And Luke, Han, R2-D2 & C-3P0 are all standing in the SAME spot every day for the past two years...

SWG is more like "Groundhog Day" wherein we're living the same day over and over and over...

I play this game for fun, and I care about what I'm doing and what my friends are doing. I don't waste MY enjoyment on people or professions that bother me - because I can go on for hours over MANY of them, including our own!

I set out to be a Smuggler/TKA/Pistoleer... I'm NOWJUST Smuggler/Pistoleer.. But HAPPY!

I only wish I could WEAR MY CLONE BATTLE ARMOR!

Message Edited by AarunLightseeker on 05-16-2005 12:44 AM

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Ternque01

Mon May 16, 2005 12:01 am

#30

The crazy thing is that NickHeel hasn't even written HALF of the reasons Jedi are inducing bad dynamics into this game.

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HOTDOG

Mon May 16, 2005 12:06 am

#31

I hate Jedi post don't have any place in the Smuggler forum.

But I think they are going to be here for a while...

and that says something on it's pwn.

...I mean "own".

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NickHeel

Mon May 16, 2005 12:27 am

#32

Ternque01 wrote:
The crazy thing is that NickHeel hasn't even written HALF of the reasons Jedi are inducing bad dynamics into this game.

Yeah, I didn't even include one of the most fundamental principles of balancing the game and professions while actually adding an aspect that is completely out of balance. And as the Devs know, there will always be a group of people that gravitate towards the most powerfull character, which many have done and so on and so forth.

One of these days, I'm going to be super rich and buy out the rights to all Star Wars video games. Then we won't have this problem.

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ealide

Mon May 16, 2005 1:59 am

#33

Endjinneer wrote:
where does this one hit kill come from?

to use last ditch you must of been allready fighting to get your health and action down to a level to use it

that implys serveral hits folks

that's right not one hit but serveral before you use last ditch

as you can see you need more than one hit in a fight to use it

simple people can't make this distinction though, the people with more than one brain cell can so it's pointless to continue trying to explain it to them

Well, if you actually consider the implications, "one hit" in this instance means it can wipe out your entire health in one hit. I never stated that this would be the one and only hit, as having a smuggler character I know first hand that using LD often incaps you and does little damage with a full health bar.

There was some concern about BH bringing someone to duel their health down before attacking the mark with an LD first strike, but this seems rather impractical to me and not a serious concern.

Regardless, the CU was meant to fix things such as CM poisons that wipe out mind in one attack and any weapons and specials that are capable of doing a whole health bar of damage in one attack (again no one stated one and only attack). This is in the CU docs as a central aim. Perhaps if you read that rather than writing poorly thought through insults you might make better use of your time.

Message Edited by ealide on 05-16-2005 10:01 AM

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HOTDOG

Mon May 16, 2005 7:14 am

#34

All due respect Ealide, but you are over looking a couple of things here.

First, to many, the term "One Shot Kill" usually means not only killing someone in one shot but without the victim having a chance to fight back. Some might argue that the Rifleman special Sniper Shot is a one shot kill as they pull the trigger and the battle is over before it begun.

But really, that has little to do with the misunderstanding of how Last Ditch is supposed to work.

What LD used to be was a shot that just did heavy damage. It is obvious to me that the Devs wanted to make this a REAL "last ditch" chance at survival in the CU. Just look at the changes it has undergone:

Last Ditch comes with a negative "to hit " modifier.

You can only get a battle changing outcome from LD if you use it at your lowest health.

YouWILL drain your HAM severely when you useLD.

There is a great chance that you will incap yourself as well when you pull the trigger.

These are some HEAVY prices to pay for a special that USUALLY doesn't have an outcome in your favor.

Some are making an argument to nerf this ability. I ask, HOW? Read the stuff above. If you want to cap the damage it does you will make LD useless. No one would even risk to do it.

Hell, people don't use it now unless they really have to because it's so risky (unless they are completely ignorant or following some of the lies that have been posted on the Jedi forum).

If the Jedi ability toSaberThrowcame with the same risks as LD and the upside was a 1 in 3 chance to incaptheir attacker (remember if the Jedi doesn't automatically incap himself hisHAM bars will be all but completely drained) how often would you see Saber Throw?

The biggest thing you are overlooking however is that THERE ARE WAYS TOKEEP A SMUGGLER FROM LAST DITCHING YOU. There are other Jedi already using these techniques and Isuggestother PvPers with a problem with LD employ these tactics as well.

I really don't know how to make it muchplainer than that.

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Lunah75

Mon May 16, 2005 8:04 am

#35

So I lurk here more than I post...but here is my take on the Jedi problem.

http://forums.station.sony.com/swg/board/message?board.id=csystems&message.id=57274

Check it out in core systems and tell me if you would be interested.

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riotcontrol

Mon May 16, 2005 8:10 am

#36

Lunah75 wrote:
So I lurk here more than I post...but here is my take on the Jedi problem.

http://forums.station.sony.com/swg/board/message?board.id=csystems&message.id=57274

Check it out in core systems and tell me if you would be interested.

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JTGAlpha

Mon May 16, 2005 1:33 pm

#37

I have to agree with the initial poster. These complaints do not belong on these boards. Whether or not Jedi have screwed up the game has to do with PvP, the GCW, etc, and the all around design. NOT the smuggler boards.

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Orcajum

Mon May 16, 2005 2:54 pm

#38

I think we just have to survive about 2 more weeks. After that time i think all the boards will calm down again (well, with the normal exceptions anyway) as players will have seen and done enough with CU to stop crying for nerfs, to have found tactics to better succeed, and because many of the "The CU sux, i'm quitting" will finally hit that cancel button.

I'll admit, i'm as guilty as anyone for having fed the trolls lately. Took a few months off, finally came back with the CU to find my profession was something useful and didn't like people wanting to take that usefulness away. Thankfully, the cooler heads are starting to prevail, and starting to cool everyone (even an ol' idiot like me) down a little more.

Anyway, this too will pass. Just gotta hang ona little longer until it blows over.

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