Smuggler Archive
Thread: You might remember in Publish 9...
JiganSterling
Wed Aug 11, 2004 8:01 pm
#27
Yes....a nerf. And here I thought we were totally forgotten.
Way to prod the fire devs.
Why, why why would they do this? It makes no logical sense at all.
Velneth
Wed Aug 11, 2004 8:15 pm
#28
Not pulling charged items I can see. It makes some sense (I pull my knives anyway)
But Clamps and UK's? Crap. That has got to be the stupidest notion ever. What's the point in having crates of them then?
But Clamps and UK's? Crap. That has got to be the stupidest notion ever. What's the point in having crates of them then?
neo_mozart
Wed Aug 11, 2004 8:36 pm
#29
P__Day wrote:
So let me get this strait , they nerfed panic shot, made spices worthless with the doc buff "standardisation" and the chef revamp, made underworld nearly useless with the jedi revamp (stopping anyone from going overt since jedi will gank them) and hte BH pre req change (1 man base destruction "crews"), 3 out of 4 DF boxes are worthless without pistol mods from pistoleer or BH, slicing is still random and a master gets a 11% slice, and there is no documentation in the master box.
While on the other hand docs get : the ability to buff themselves, heal themselves using stim E's, bure poison, desease, bleeds and fire dots, got theire buffs standardized, get hte new poison/desease resist buffs and point blank AOE cures for poison desease. It would seem to me that the devs love Doc but hate smuggler.
Why dont they remove hte prof alltogether, is worth about 10 of the 121 sp it takes ot master. Why cant they when they could make doc buffs have a certain value makea master slice 25 - 35 instead, alow experimentation on spices, get the GCW back going.
It's rational thinking like this that has no place in the SWG Forums.
Now stop this nonsense unless you want the thread closed...
(Heh, I know I'm posting an awful lot more than anyone cares about, but I want a newer title than veteran )
)
WesBelden
Wed Aug 11, 2004 11:51 pm
#31
Get what answered?
"You have strung the smuggler community along for over a year with the promise of a revamp and the addition of the ability to actually smuggle. Spices have been superceded by buffs and chef foods and there is virtually no market for them; the underworld tree is next to useless what with the GCW being in its current state, with less and less people PvPing. The Dirty Fighting tree has only been nerded since launch, the profession is in dire need of attention, with some community members wondering why it's in the game at all in its current form. Why then have you spent time 'fixing' something that is so very low on the priority list for the smuggler profession, when there are so many other issuesof far higher priorityto be adressed?"
Or,
"Are you f**king joking?"
Or,
"Do the developers have a sadistic running joke going on that involves causing those that are in thesmuggler profession as much frustration, annoyance, anger, pain and sorrow via forum posts and additions/changes to the game?"
I doubt any of the above would receive an answer, perhaps you can come up with something that's slightly more diplomatic.
TheLadyLillith
Thu Aug 12, 2004 2:29 am
#32
First the merchant nerf and now this?
Wow. If figures.
Well, I'm going to have to drop master smuggler anyways if the merchant nerf comes through.
Lillith
MobusDyrus
Thu Aug 12, 2004 3:03 am
#33
Five minutes ago I was wondering why the hell I dropped Master Smuggler. I can't stand not being one. I know it's broken, but I love it like a man loves his wife even though she has grown fat over the years. But now my wife is obese, and I'm wondering..."Why am I trying to get Master Smuggler back?"
MobusDyrus
Thu Aug 12, 2004 3:07 am
#34
IndySWG wrote:Man, what posible logic could have inspired this change!?Glad you are on top of it Caylin. Keep us up to date.
LOGIC! Ha! The devs have no logic!
PhoenixOrion
Thu Aug 12, 2004 3:22 am
#35
Caylin you should go to the Correspondant meeting thing at the SOE HQ and just set a gun on the table and say "Now...let's discuss...SMUGGLER."
That would be the ONLY way they'd ever fix us, unfortunately. 
MadDoctor
Thu Aug 12, 2004 4:00 am
#36
Do I uderstand this correctly?
A typical slice would go something like this:
Acustomer: Hi do you have time to slice a set of armour for me?
Domnin: Sure no problem I charge 50k
Acustomer: No probblem, Trade.
Acustomer: Trade!!!
Domnin: Just a sec just clearing some space
/Clear 8 Spaces in Inventory for Customers Armour
/Clear Space for 16 PLK's
/Clear Space for 8 Armour Upgrade Kits
/Clear Space for 8 Molecular Clamps
/Take 32 Items out of Cases
/Domnin Ok Ready trade
/ACustomer Sorry I got bored waiting, bye
Domnin: Sure no problem I charge 50k
Acustomer: No probblem, Trade.
Acustomer: Trade!!!
Domnin: Just a sec just clearing some space
/Clear 8 Spaces in Inventory for Customers Armour
/Clear Space for 16 PLK's
/Clear Space for 8 Armour Upgrade Kits
/Clear Space for 8 Molecular Clamps
/Take 32 Items out of Cases
/Domnin Ok Ready trade
/ACustomer Sorry I got bored waiting, bye
Surelly this cant be true, please say it aint so
Domnin
Nicolas_Frost
Thu Aug 12, 2004 4:28 am
#37
MadDoctor wrote:Do I uderstand this correctly?A typical slice would go something like this:Acustomer: Hi do you have time to slice a set of armour for me?
Domnin: Sure no problem I charge 50k
Acustomer: No probblem, Trade.
Acustomer: Trade!!!
Domnin: Just a sec just clearing some space
/Clear 8 Spaces in Inventory for Customers Armour
/Clear Space for 16 PLK's
/Clear Space for 8 Armour Upgrade Kits
/Clear Space for 8 Molecular Clamps
/Take 32 Items out of Cases
/Domnin Ok Ready trade
/ACustomer Sorry I got bored waiting, bye
Surelly this cant be true, please say it aint soDomnin
Nah, we'd need nine AUKs, nine Clamps, and two Precision Laser Knives(each one has ten charges, so one is good for five slices).
If this happens, I see myself having to set up my own slicing TOOLBAR. I'll keep my crates in my backpack to save space. Out of knives, F1, new knife. Oh, need a clamp first, F2. Oh yeah, three weapons and a suit of armor. F3 x 3 for WUKs and F4 x 9 for AUKs.... oh wait, not enough room in my inventory for all of them at once... okay, we'll do the slicing in piece-meal fashion, two items at a time, then I can actually slice, Oh wait, need another knife after the first two pieces of armor.
/feigndeath
/deathblow self
Why can't I just let the game pull the damned kits and clamps automaticly, and keep a crate of my knives in my toolbar?
Who's with me?!
Say AYE!
MadDoctor
Thu Aug 12, 2004 5:01 am
#38
Nicolas_Frost wrote:
...........two Precision Laser Knives(each one has ten charges, so one is good for five slices).
Woulnt know that, never taken them out of the cases 
Locom_Dandef
Thu Aug 12, 2004 5:43 am
#39
Terrible, terrible idea. It's pretty simple Dev's:
We need to be able to pull AUK's, WUK's & Molecular Clamps from crates and we for Laser Knives to not pull. How hard can that be?
What you're implementing is a pain for smugglers as we not only need to spend time pulling items from crates, but we also need even more inventory space.
Do not implement this. I'd rather pull knives from crates and only get one shot than have this implemented.