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Thread: WesBelden. For sake of Balance. Push For Chain Dazing Fix as Hot Fix, not in Pub 20.

Thomen
Wed Jun 29, 2005 3:57 pm
#27






Opie76 wrote:


Jeez, you people are a real piece of work. I know it's hard being a teenager, and someday most of you will grow up.



What I'm calling for is not a nerf. The said ability to chain-daze an opponent is slated to be fixed. All i'm asking Wes here is to see if it's possible if they can move this to a hotfix , instead of waiting for a publish cycle.





Why? Coz its "unfair"?.. mhm... a class that can deal a large amount of damage, heal, buff and have ranged attacks is "unfair" too, isnt it?



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KaiRan
Wed Jun 29, 2005 3:58 pm
#28

While your particular argument may be valid, what you have effectively done is asked a famine-strikenpeoples to voulentarily go on a hunger strike for a protest against McDonald's air-dropping them fast-food because it's high in chloresterol.


Dont expect the idea it to be taken well.




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SwenLaransa
Wed Jun 29, 2005 3:59 pm
#29



KaiRan wrote:

While your particular argument may be valid, what you have effectively done is asked a famine-strikenpeoples to voulentarily go on a hunger strike for a protest against McDonald's air-dropping them fast-food because it's high in chloresterol.

Dont expect the idea it to be taken well.






I object to your implied clasification of McDonalds as food.




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zakalex
Wed Jun 29, 2005 4:01 pm
#30






SwenLaransa wrote:





KaiRan wrote:

While your particular argument may be valid, what you have effectively done is asked a famine-strikenpeoples to voulentarily go on a hunger strike for a protest against McDonald's Marie Callendersair-dropping them fast-food pies because it's high in chloresterol.


Dont expect the idea it to be taken well.








I object to your implied clasification of McDonalds as food.



There we go, I fixed it for ya Swen.




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Bzzzz
Wed Jun 29, 2005 4:06 pm
#31






Opie76 wrote:


Jeez, you people are a real piece of work. I know it's hard being a teenager, and someday most of you will grow up.



Wait.. who's trolling in another profession's forums again? Oh yeah, huh. Again with the hypocrisy.


Balance.. <giggle>


...HAHAHahahahaha



-Zz (dammit! I was just about over that!)


KaiRan
Wed Jun 29, 2005 4:07 pm
#32






zakalex wrote:





SwenLaransa wrote:





KaiRan wrote:

While your particular argument may be valid, what you have effectively done is asked a famine-strikenpeoples to voulentarily go on a hunger strike for a protest against McDonald's Marie Callendersair-dropping them fast-food pies because it's high in chloresterol.


Dont expect the idea it to be taken well.








I object to your implied clasification of McDonalds as food.



There we go, I fixed it for ya Swen.







Ah! Yes, yes, absolutely right... McD's was the first ting that poped into my head... and White Castels into my mouth...


*continues his quest to become a crime lord like Jabba, if not in abilities, at least in mass*





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Nezodon
Wed Jun 29, 2005 4:15 pm
#33






Opie76 wrote:





Well I've played as a Smuggler in the past and its fun to use broken specials to your advantage (ie- Concussion). The newest special to get abused which the Devs already acknowledged needs fixing is 'Panic Shot'.


For Normal PVP,Jedi PVP to be ruined by chain Dazing is not acceptable.


This Issue needs addressed with an imediate hot fix. How is it balancing when a smuggler can just put put panic shot on as their default shot, and their opponent will never be able to heal themselves. Thats right! Its not balanced.



I challenge youWesBelden,for the sake of fair gameplay, to encourage the DEVs in the correspondant forumto fix this with a hotfix. Many comments I have read about this ability from your fellow smugglers have been along the lines of "Enjoy it while it last." This to me is not playing fair when you know an ability is imbalancing but you will encourage others to abuse til it's gone.


I know that panic shot does very little damage, but when you can continue to apply it with impunity, macroed even, then its not balanced.




Message Edited by Opie76 on 06-29-2005 03:28 PM




OMG jedi coming to the smuggler boards asking for nerf's........................... must be Wednesday.



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Ternque01
Wed Jun 29, 2005 4:20 pm
#34






Opie76 wrote:





Well I've played as a Smuggler in the past and its fun to use broken specials to your advantage (ie- Concussion). The newest special to get abused which the Devs already acknowledged needs fixing is 'Panic Shot'.


For Normal PVP,Jedi PVP to be ruined by chain Dazing is not acceptable.


This Issue needs addressed with an imediate hot fix. How is it balancing when a smuggler can just put put panic shot on as their default shot, and their opponent will never be able to heal themselves. Thats right! Its not balanced.



I challenge youWesBelden,for the sake of fair gameplay, to encourage the DEVs in the correspondant forumto fix this with a hotfix. Many comments I have read about this ability from your fellow smugglers have been along the lines of "Enjoy it while it last." This to me is not playing fair when you know an ability is imbalancing but you will encourage others to abuse til it's gone.


I know that panic shot does very little damage, but when you can continue to apply it with impunity, macroed even, then its not balanced.







You are right, being able to chain Concussion and Panic Shot is not balanced. A dev came in here and said it would be fixed in publish 20 or 21, and I don't know what else you want Wes to do about seeing that the devs KNOW about the problem and are already in the process of fixing it.


Just get comfortable for a bit, and it will be fixed soon(TM).



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JohnFKennedy
Wed Jun 29, 2005 4:21 pm
#35

Well smugglers just to inform you, you troll the jedi boards as well =/ flame me all you want im a firefighter!! hehehehehehehehehehehehehhehehehehehehehheheheheheheheh =D



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TimSpork
Wed Jun 29, 2005 4:24 pm
#36

Ah Wensdays I could never get the hang of Wensdays...



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Opie76
Wed Jun 29, 2005 5:32 pm
#37


maxtheusher
Wed Jun 29, 2005 5:36 pm
#38



TimSpork wrote:
Ah Wensdays I could never get the hang of Wensdays...



At this point I'm having trouble getting the hang of days that end in Y... but nice HHG praphrase.



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Rogue3000000
Wed Jun 29, 2005 6:04 pm
#39

I checked this chain dazing issue with a Jedi guildmate to see the affect that it had. Results were that IF the daze stays on them they can't heal or attack you. With that though is the fact that I only hit him 30 times out of 45 tries. That's only a 66% effectiveness. It also allowed for the daze to break at one point where he hit me hard (I wasn't wearing armor though). I was causing 66 damage with each hit. I barely dented him using a 490 dps pistol as a Master Smuggler and Master Pistoleer. He could however run away at any time he wanted he wanted to. I don't see the unbalancing affect of this one special being used on Jedi at this point. The thing I see though is that there are a lot of Jedi who have no idea of how to play their profession and as such go to the whine and cry forum method. Quit whining and learn your profession Jedi!!!



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