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Thread: Slice Bio-Linked Weapon(s)

riotcontrol
Thu Jul 28, 2005 4:27 am
#27


Okoh wrote:
What's hilarious is how Blixtev knew nothing about it and yet it's in Wes's Smuggler Issues list
Doesn't exactly fill you with confidence regarding SWG communication and reporting structures, does it, lol





True. I mean, it seems as though individual developers are more than willing do stuff that's asked of them in person, but once again it proves that the whole "official" system doesn't work at all.

I'd much prefer a serious, working system of feedback instead of the need for this childish tugging at developers' sleeves...



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SmugglerPie
Thu Jul 28, 2005 4:28 am
#28

It's hard to be aware of Smuggler issues when you ignore the entire profession, isn't it?



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AnyaSilverblade
Thu Jul 28, 2005 5:33 am
#29

They say in previous Posts that you can Slice a Bio-Linked weapon as long as you are a smuggler and it is Bio-Linked to you???



Ummmm...Noooo...you cant...Cause I bio-linked my Kash Bladestick and I cant slice it at all..And yes its Bio-Linked to me..And yes I am a master smuggler...Hmmm



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Chemistrius
Thu Jul 28, 2005 6:10 am
#30



riotcontrol wrote:

Okoh wrote:
What's hilarious is how Blixtev knew nothing about it and yet it's in Wes's Smuggler Issues list
Doesn't exactly fill you with confidence regarding SWG communication and reporting structures, does it, lol





True. I mean, it seems as though individual developers are more than willing do stuff that's asked of them in person, but once again it proves that the whole "official" system doesn't work at all.

I'd much prefer a serious, working system of feedback instead of the need for this childish tugging at developers' sleeves...


To be fair, Blix was never responsible for anything smuggler, why would he have read our payed attention to our issues?



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Jaspor
Thu Jul 28, 2005 6:24 am
#31





You know, it's not even worth it arguing with the Jedi trolls any more.


Thanks though, Blixtev! I think you're probably right about the radial menu stacking thing.


Though in the past, when that happened, BOTH commands were executed when they stacked.

(ie, when you could recolor Composite Armor, it was in the same slot as "Slice"... So when you chose "Slice" you also got the color palette selection screen.)


My guess is what is now happening is the radial menu checks to see if it is bio-linked, and if it is, suppresses radial menu option X, which is USUALLY bio-link. However, in this case, it should be "Slice", since Slice has been shifted a spot now that the bio-link option has been removed.


Or something like that.


Thanks for the attention.

Message Edited by Jaspor on 07-28-2005 06:28 AM



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Chemistrius
Thu Jul 28, 2005 6:56 am
#32

If you're still reading Blix, while I think of it, it would be a great help to have the slice radial item eject the power up at the same time. This will get around the whole powerup bug thing.



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Ternque01
Thu Jul 28, 2005 7:19 am
#33






Blixtev wrote:





tamer_bourne wrote:
Blixtev, its not possible to remove powerups from most biolinked weapons too. Tested with the trandoshan hunting rifle and kashyyyk stalker pistol





Thanks for this tidbit, I'm pretty sure even from home I know whats going on. Sounds like there is some raidial stacking going on. Kinda like when you "try" and slice a power upped weapon, it would auto strip the power up, simply because "remove power up" and "slice" shared the same radial tab. I'll have to see what it takes to change this and not break either the biolinking system or the slicing system.






Blixtev, there are also HORRIBLE bugs when you slice a weapon with a powerup on it. If you have a speed powerup on one, and try to slice it for speed, the gun will actually SLOW down after slicing. In many cases, the gun will slow down so much that after the slice and even with a speed powerup on the weapon, the gun will be much slower than the gun was before WITHOUT a speedpowerup on it!!!


Slicing a gun with a damage powerup on it that takes the gun beyond the damage cap will not allow you to slice for damage.


Of course, it only makes sense to remove powerups from a weapon before slicing, but some don't know of these bugs, and extremely finely crafted weapons have been permanently messed up due to the speed powerup bug in particular





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WesBelden
Thu Jul 28, 2005 7:31 am
#34


Blixtev wrote:

Thanks for this tidbit, I'm pretty sure even from home I know whats going on. Sounds like there is some raidial stacking going on. Kinda like when you "try" and slice a power upped weapon, it would auto strip the power up, simply because "remove power up" and "slice" shared the same radial tab. I'll have to see what it takes to change this and not break either the biolinking system or the slicing system.




Power upped weapons no longer have their PuPs auto stripped and (as Ternque says) weapons sliced with them still on get all kinda of nastyness happening to them.



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DeltaAdvisor
Thu Jul 28, 2005 7:38 am
#35

My 2 credits, Master smugglers should also be able to remove the bio link from a weapon so it can be traded.



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Kav
Thu Jul 28, 2005 7:40 am
#36

if they had wanted that to ever happen, there would be no bio-link



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Kynth
Thu Jul 28, 2005 12:16 pm
#37

Thanks for posting Blix, it's much appreciated.


I cannotslice items which are bio-linked tomyself at all. A smuggler Guildmate on Bria has the same problem. Same symptoms as other folk - Wes' smuggler issues spreadsheet has all of the details:


http://giz.rebelsquadrons.org/SmugglerIssues.html


Not sure if this is related butour weapons repair kits don't work on Bio-Linked Knuckles of Katarn. Haven't tested this with other Bio-Linked weapons yet.


DigiDante
Thu Jul 28, 2005 12:21 pm
#38



Blixtev wrote:


tamer_bourne wrote:
Blixtev, its not possible to remove powerups from most biolinked weapons too. Tested with the trandoshan hunting rifle and kashyyyk stalker pistol



Thanks for this tidbit, I'm pretty sure even from home I know whats going on. Sounds like there is some raidial stacking going on. Kinda like when you "try" and slice a power upped weapon, it would auto strip the power up, simply because "remove power up" and "slice" shared the same radial tab. I'll have to see what it takes to change this and not break either the biolinking system or the slicing system.





Having powerups removed from weapons was intentionally added to the game and removed once the CU went love... could you add this again?



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David665
Thu Jul 28, 2005 4:03 pm
#39

I am a master smuggler and I bio-linked my Trando Suppressor, UR-G8 and Katarn Clone Armour on recieving them. I cannot slice any of it. After bio-linking, I cannot silce them.




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