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Thread: Smugglers In Concept Links

akd23
Sat Mar 12, 2005 4:55 am
#27






CorellianCowboy wrote:





ObiPaul wrote:





CorellianCowboy wrote:





ObiPaul wrote:
There doesn't seem to be much in there for Master Smugglers since this will replace the way that slicing and spice experience is gained.

Also, it would be nice to be able to slice ship parts once and for all. I didn't see any indication of that. It's nice how they pay lip service to Han Solo and then give some mini-game on slicing weapons and nothing to modify the ship.






Read again, near the beginning of her post.






I did.. nothing about slicing ship parts. Only weapons and gear, and I take gear to mean armor and other ground-based equipment.





Copied and pasted from Tigg's post:

The goal of the slicing enhancement will be to give smugglers more control over the results of their slices, as well as improve the gameplay element of slicing. Finally, smugglers will be giving some slicing options that can be used inside POB ships.





yep- looks like theremight bemore info to come in the next few weeks



If one guy calls you a Hutt, ignore him. If a second calls you a Hutt, begin to wonder. If a third calls you a Hutt, buy a drool bucket and start stockpiling spice

Klisof : Master Pilot ---------------------- Sa'i : Imperial Ace
Neka: redneck bothan banjo player
Siko: Commando---------------------- Tykkata: Walking Carpet




akd23
Sat Mar 12, 2005 4:58 am
#28






ObiPaul wrote:





zazo wrote:

oh yeah and while im on a tear here there's one more reason for me to not wear my master smuggler tag


can you fix my weapon its broken

can you fix my weapon its out of tune


can you fix my weapon its broken


can you fix my weapon its broken.....










You give them too much credit for language.. it would be more like:

can u plz fix my weapon
can u plz slice my armor
can u plz tun my weapon





This could be a nice source of income, just charge 10K for fixing an out of tune weapon, 20K for a broken one if they ask 'can you fix my weapon please?' nicely, if they start using '1337' speak increase all prices by a factor of 5



If one guy calls you a Hutt, ignore him. If a second calls you a Hutt, begin to wonder. If a third calls you a Hutt, buy a drool bucket and start stockpiling spice

Klisof : Master Pilot ---------------------- Sa'i : Imperial Ace
Neka: redneck bothan banjo player
Siko: Commando---------------------- Tykkata: Walking Carpet




fishbrains
Sat Mar 12, 2005 7:00 am
#29






gomi321 wrote:

I am so freaking happy right now






amen to that brother, amen to that.



Joras 'Godfather' Kal'lan/Aethen Dor

Master Smuggler/Master Officer
Sunrunner's Elder Smuggler


LaughingWolf
Sat Mar 12, 2005 8:10 am
#30



EnderUK wrote:
What happened to dirty in-fighting
Looks very cool





Under the scope of the CURB, I would assume.

Oh and as pointed out in yimaz's thread about what would be replacing the Spice tree, it is obvious thoses documents are not ALL of it.



LaffyWolf'ya - Master Smuggler / Master Pistoleer / Rebel Colonel

Fresh out of witty signatures, sorry.
Sowsky
Sat Mar 12, 2005 8:54 am
#31

Hey, I know we should be esceptical (prolly wrong spelled it). However I have to say that I am impresse, very impress, as an old smuggler (more than a year an a half) I have to say that those ideas are taken from this forums, I have heard those ideas from old posters (not anymore with us) and other contributors around here, so I have to say that for once SOE look like it hears the player base ideas and not only the whinnes.


Keep the good work and drive that into production asap


Styphon
Cloudchasing
Sat Mar 12, 2005 9:35 am
#32






dlc3007 wrote:

waaaahhh.....


What, exactly, are you expecting?

People complain about crafting spices so that is leaving.

People complain about not being able to control the slices, so they're changing that.

People complain about not having smuggling missions, so they're looking at adding missions.

We went from demanding information about a smuggler revamp and we now have information about a smuggler revamp.


What are you complaining about?? What is it you want? Do you just live to whine?


Sure, we all want to see this go into live and I'm guessing that we're sceptical enough to take this with a few grains of salt, but it look like they at least put the effort into showing this community that they've at least heard our requests to some extent.


Stop freaking crying! If this isn't what you want to see from a smuggler revamp, what the hell are you expecting????


[tired of people who will never be satisfied]








QFE


I can't agree with you more here. These changes are wonderful for about 99% of our community. And the lack of PC bounties is fine as long as it's only temporary. Let them fix the system before adding us into it. There are fight-clubs for easy jedi FRS now, let them fix the system to keep a fight-club for Spice from happening.


These 2 docs are the best thing I've seen since I started




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Master Smuggler
SpinningCloud
Sat Mar 12, 2005 9:43 am
#33

zazo,


I'm sure they fully understand the spice branch will need to be filled with something. Even so I asked that question on one of TIggs threads. Hopefully it will have skills that allow us to avoid BHs.


I personally find slicing a pain in the ass and don't do it anymore with the system we currently have. It isn't smuggling so I don't bother with it (I know, that leaves me not bothering with anything atm).


Under the new system it is at least more amusing though I suspect I still won't do it often. I'm in this for the actual smuggling. Slicing is a side-game as far as I'm concerned and I'll save it for myself and trusted friends.


If you don't want to slice, just make a hotkey with a canned respons; "I don't slice, get lost."




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Smuggler, Smuggler, Smuggler Pie, Dancers can't smuggle and neither can I.
Ask me a riddle and I reply: "Smuggler, Smuggler, Smuggler Pie."

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zazo
Sun Mar 13, 2005 11:01 am
#34






dlc3007 wrote:

waaaahhh.....


What, exactly, are you expecting?

People complain about crafting spices so that is leaving.

People complain about not being able to control the slices, so they're changing that.

People complain about not having smuggling missions, so they're looking at adding missions.

We went from demanding information about a smuggler revamp and we now have information about a smuggler revamp.


What are you complaining about?? What is it you want? Do you just live to whine?


Sure, we all want to see this go into live and I'm guessing that we're sceptical enough to take this with a few grains of salt, but it look like they at least put the effort into showing this community that they've at least heard our requests to some extent.


Stop freaking crying! If this isn't what you want to see from a smuggler revamp, what the hell are you expecting????


[tired of people who will never be satisfied]






?? ah yes i live to whine ...thank you now move along


I'm asking the simple questions that the devs never ask themselve prior to changing things.


No spice crafting? good where do my skill points go...oh did you not notice that there was conspicuously no mention of what we would be doing with that whole line? Is it going to be ground out with more pistol xps? and maybe some specials?


I don't see the new slicing game removing chance from the slicing system at all really. I do however see my reaction time being limited to the laggy server of bria and thus causing even more customer complaints.


don't really care as long as there is a plan. And not some half @$$ed "oh look what we're cooking up for the smugglers" thread that translates into (um lets tell them something they will forget about in a month or seven)


I've been here too long and seen too many ideas just get dropped and never mentioned before...and I've seen even more poorly planned ideas get implimented with a dozen or so "Oh crap" hotfixes to follow.





Zazo Flyrider
Leader of DN/Non-smuggling smuggler since Sept' 03
NinNyang Ninnang Nynyang Nin Nong Ninnang


zazo
Sun Mar 13, 2005 11:03 am
#35






Smuggler_Caylin wrote:
Think of it this way, while those things will certainly happen it also gives us a reason to attend high-level areas that involve group mechanics.

People want to use the best and it has it's consequences. They will have the chance that their uber 100000max dmg t-21 breaks down in the middle of a big fight in say... deathwatch bunker. They are not going to like the thought of going *back* to town and finding a smuggler. They will want to have that smuggler fighting with them for on the spot jobs.





System message: "you cannot slice while fighting"



Zazo Flyrider
Leader of DN/Non-smuggling smuggler since Sept' 03
NinNyang Ninnang Nynyang Nin Nong Ninnang


yimaz
Sun Mar 13, 2005 11:07 am
#36

If the spice tree is no more dont you think they have something in the works? I mean come on, think man!! It's not ready for them to talk about, what ever it is. All this is are the Doc's for Smuggling and Slice because its all they are ready to talk about. Anyone that cant see that is a little short sighted....sorry.



Yimayz Samoot
Master Smuggler & Master Pilot
Captain of the Auto de fé

zazo
Sun Mar 13, 2005 11:16 am
#37

I am thinking that's the problem...there was no mention of removing the spice crafting line nor was there any mention of changing it to something else. Like I said in another thread I think the line will be changed from spice crafting to spice transportation or some crap and we will get jtl style missions to advance within that line. The only reward would be to obtain higher missions the higher level you have and more usable spice, as well as gaining master smuggler...is this the change everyone wants? yeah they will be getting rid of spices but now you've got a whole line of gated missions that will advance you to master smuggler and you gain nothing for it?


I would have felt much better if something was said....anything like we are getting rid of the spice line for something more smuggler like...


I don't have a good feeling about this...



Zazo Flyrider
Leader of DN/Non-smuggling smuggler since Sept' 03
NinNyang Ninnang Nynyang Nin Nong Ninnang


LaughingWolf
Sun Mar 13, 2005 5:48 pm
#38


zazo wrote:
I am thinking that's the problem...there was no mention of removing the spice crafting line nor was there any mention of changing it to something else. Like I said in another thread I think the line will be changed from spice crafting to spice transportation or some crap and we will get jtl style missions to advance within that line. The only reward would be to obtain higher missions the higher level you have and more usable spice, as well as gaining master smuggler...is this the change everyone wants? yeah they will be getting rid of spices but now you've got a whole line of gated missions that will advance you to master smuggler and you gain nothing for it?
I would have felt much better if something was said....anything like we are getting rid of the spice line for something more smuggler like...
I don't have a good feeling about this...





You really think that? You do realise that even in JTL you do get something for each boxes? That if you are right, we would be the only profession in game to have a WHOLE skill branch without ANY mods or skills in it?

Isn't it way more plausible that we just don't know because what we saw is an early document, not exactly a complete thing?

Message Edited by LaughingWolf on 03-13-2005 07:49 PM



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zazo
Mon Mar 14, 2005 8:15 am
#39






LaughingWolf wrote:




zazo wrote:

I am thinking that's the problem...there was no mention of removing the spice crafting line nor was there any mention of changing it to something else. Like I said in another thread I think the line will be changed from spice crafting to spice transportation or some crap and we will get jtl style missions to advance within that line. The only reward would be to obtain higher missions the higher level you have and more usable spice, as well as gaining master smuggler...is this the change everyone wants? yeah they will be getting rid of spices but now you've got a whole line of gated missions that will advance you to master smuggler and you gain nothing for it?


I would have felt much better if something was said....anything like we are getting rid of the spice line for something more smuggler like...


I don't have a good feeling about this...







You really think that? You do realise that even in JTL you do get something for each boxes? That if you are right, we would be the only profession in game to have a WHOLE skill branch without ANY mods or skills in it?

Isn't it way more plausible that we just don't know because what we saw is an early document, not exactly a complete thing?

Message Edited by LaughingWolf on 03-13-2005 07:49 PM




wait we are currently the only profession that requires combat skills without any combat mods or or defenses right? and we are the only profession without anything at all in the master box. and we do need 1.5 mil pistol xps for underworld when that line has nothing to do with pistol we do have spice assembly and spice experimentation mods that actually don't effect anything since we cant experiment on spice we get to learn all languages but then so does everyone else we can experiment on slicing tools but they have no effect what-so-ever


so why is it so difficult to think that we will get "spice smuggling" xps for the new spice line that will give us nothing but the ability to take higher missions?


Look I don't want to craft spice I never did, but what we are looking at here is really nothing. Yes, I know its only concept and subject to change. But I really hate to see this community get its hopes up to find out all they really did was take spices away and now we need to do missions to get them.





Zazo Flyrider
Leader of DN/Non-smuggling smuggler since Sept' 03
NinNyang Ninnang Nynyang Nin Nong Ninnang


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