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Thread: HOw will you smugglers feel when the jedi get feign death nerfed?
Nathanielstarr wrote:
What if they just made it not work in pvp?
That's like saying, "What if they just make Bodyshot, Eyeshot, Stoppingshot, etc. not work in PvP?"...
FD is a special just like any other profession gets. Why should we suffer by having it made more useless in PvP. It needs to balanced so that it's useful, yet not overpowered. Taking it away from PvP completely is equivalent to removing 1/4 of the reward we get for gaining levels in the DF tree.
We've discussed this ad nauseum on this forum and have come up with an infinite number of viable solutions, from moving it to Master, to implementing counters (both passive counters and active counters have been suggested and discussed).
Ishkibible wrote:
There is a simple solution to this problem move it to master or dirty 4
Message Edited by Ishkibible on 12-24-2004 02:58 PM
This solution is ineffective. It is only a few more skill points to get Dirty Fighting 4, and moving it to master makes it a useless skill for smugglers leveling.
Rogue3000000 wrote:
Guess this shows how long it has been since i mastered Smuggler. I haven't used Feign Death since around September of last year and never used it in PvP. Why would anyone use it only to be blacked barred while they lie there like a moron? Maybe these people should learn how to fight a bit better and depend less on the cheap trick that is FD. Loved it while leveling, haven't used it since.
Theres nothing more satisfying than watching a noob unable to get on shuttle and sending tells while you feign go and make ac up of coffe and leave them to it. As long as you have armour off, black bars about 5 mins healing time. Copared to their 30-45 minutes is my record. Wasted, frustrated time. I personally think its great.
DrevenStrobe wrote:
Nathanielstarr wrote:
What if they just made it not work in pvp?
That's like saying, "What if they just make Bodyshot, Eyeshot, Stoppingshot, etc. not work in PvP?"...
FD is a special just like any other profession gets. Why should we suffer by having it made more useless in PvP. It needs to balanced so that it's useful, yet not overpowered. Taking it away from PvP completely is equivalent to removing 1/4 of the reward we get for gaining levels in the DF tree.
We've discussed this ad nauseum on this forum and have come up with an infinite number of viable solutions, from moving it to Master, to implementing counters (both passive counters and active counters have been suggested and discussed).
Do not forget about disabling it in player bounties, perhaps the most easy and all around pleasing solution of them all. Simple, clean, effective. Period.
maxtheusher wrote:
to quote Penny-Arcade, "Just start killing Bothans, I'll tell you when to stop."
I for one Don't want to meet the Devs halfway. I will accept that Feign death must be changed. But it needs to be FULLY accepted by us, as the people who use it.
TheDarkmoons wrote:
Perhaps Fiegn Death should be given steep success chances.
A 0010 smuggler will have a 25% chance
A 0020 smuggler will have a 50% chance
A 0030 smuggler will have a 75% chance
A 0040 smuggler will have a 90% chance
A Master smuggler will have a 100% chance
It's success now depends on level. The gap from DF4 and master should be more, this will prevent dabblers from using it where its not intended or move it to another tree since many NH's like to get DF for teh pistol mods.
Caylin is correct, its not just Jedi's that abuse this but also BH's. Read the Jedi Forums they scream also
Zeon_Zaku wrote:Feign Death needs to be moved to master... or something. Only true Smugglers should be able to use FD... not anyone that just happens to pick up a pistol and fires it a few times.
However moving it all to master hinders the smuggler xping to master.
Another poster suggested placing the mod accross all trees (well the crafting one shouldnt).
That is an interesting idea. The dabbler could then not pick up one tree and get it and use it effectively. But the xping smuggler could see a good result.