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Thread: HoC SWG Chat log
Landlubber wrote:
Tiggs wrote:
Regarding the Smuggler upgrade it will come.
Whoa... am I the only one who's had a serious deja vu feeling right now?
The point is, we heard it all before, but when are you (meaning SOE, not you personally Tiggs) going to deliver? That's the problem, you see: we've had so many broken promises that there's hardly anyone around that will take the above statement seriously. At least I know that I'll believe in it when I see it, not one second sooner.
And anyway, what happened to JFreeman's "We're going to stop promising a Smuggler Revamp we never seem to get around to deliver"?? Maybe you should heed that advice, Tiggs. Because making promises like this only opens you up to flames, when yet again your Dev team won't come through.
how does this open her up to flames? she said it would come, not when or what it would consist of, its the same as saying "soon TM"
Tiggs wrote:
Sometimes changes need to go in that the team feels will help the games long term goals even if the community doesn't agree.
PashaK wrote:
i like the idea of a new expansion with added content. i love it. this game needs more content. more things to do. there should be so many things to do that i dont know where to start.
unfortunately, there isn't at the moment, im waiting to unlock jedi, and as such have done everything else there is to do. sometimes i log in, wonder around my house on lok, chat with the guild a little, and then log off, because there isnt one thing i can think of to do that would interest me.
so, to kill the time until i unlock, ive purchased world of warcraft. at first, didnt really think it was my thing, but as you get into it, its really enjoyable. i even took a week off work to play it. i would choose SWG over WoW anyday, but this game needs more things to do and i think the new expansion will be just the thing to do that.
When RoTW came out, i was one of the first few people to pre order the DD, and that kept me busy for ages. but now that it's all done, i have no reason to go back there.
this is just my opinion, bug fixes are great and severely needed, but without content, ppl get bored, and sooner or later, there wont be anyone to fix bugs for.
thanx for reading
You could say the same thing about content. If you just have content, and dont fix the bugs....wait thats what happened, and no ones left but noobs and masochists!
(which one are you by the way?)
Omicron2 wrote:
Tiggs wrote:
Sometimes changes need to go in that the team feels will help the games long term goals even if the community doesn't agree.
I guess that means that it is ok to punish legitimate grinders who work for combat xp for trade in as opposed to the grenade throwing lamers....who exploited the system...lets just screw everyone at the same time and not try and fix the grenade xp issue...it's much better to kill 2 birds with 1 stone...we can stop the exploiting and slow down those people who are grinding fs to become jedi....that way they will probably keep playing and paying...no matter what we do to them.
Yeah...I'm still on about this...
It's a poor way to treat honest people and asad attempt to slow down those who have legitimately worked to get FS up untill this point....
Maybee...but theres to many jedi...so you lose.
Rueger_Karde wrote:
Omicron2 wrote:
Tiggs wrote:
Sometimes changes need to go in that the team feels will help the games long term goals even if the community doesn't agree.
I guess that means that it is ok to punish legitimate grinders who work for combat xp for trade in as opposed to the grenade throwing lamers....who exploited the system...lets just screw everyone at the same time and not try and fix the grenade xp issue...it's much better to kill 2 birds with 1 stone...we can stop the exploiting and slow down those people who are grinding fs to become jedi....that way they will probably keep playing and paying...no matter what we do to them.
Yeah...I'm still on about this...
It's a poor way to treat honest people and asad attempt to slow down those who have legitimately worked to get FS up untill this point....
Maybee...but theres to many jedi...so you lose.
I like how the devs are griefing all the people who are trying to be jedi.
It shouldn't matter how many Jedi there are. I should have the equal oppertunity to get Jedi at the same pace as those who came before me.
MISTagent01 wrote:
Theed was a bustling commerce city...people were hawking their wares, dancing, laughing, dueling, and having a rollicking good time. Cantinas were packed with beautiful Entertainers of every race, shape and size...along with scoundrels, Stormtroopers, and drunks. People grouped up and stuck together in the wilderness, and you ALWAYS took a Scout or a Ranger with you. We lived our own Star Wars saga. We created our own personas, our own histories, and it all blended into this wonderful, magical experience that I will always remember.
That magic is gone now, but I'd pay 50 bucks a month to have it back.
/tiphat
MIStagent01, I just gotta say you brought a tear to my eye. I remember those days, and I hang on in the hopes that SOMEONE-ANYONE at SOE will realize that's what's wrong with SWG now. It was a complicated game to play, but that made it more challenging and FUN. They keep dumbing SWG down to try and get more money.
It's p3nis envy.....pure and simple. 1.5 million CONFIRMED subscriptions for WoW, 250K for SWG.
SOE bigwig: WoW has 1.5 million subscriptions, we want that many in SWG.
SOE dev: Okay, lets dump the core game we created for a WoW clone. That should get more subscriptions!
SOE bigwig: BRILLIANT!!!!!!!!!!!
Omicron2 wrote:
Rueger_Karde wrote:
Omicron2 wrote:
Tiggs wrote:
Sometimes changes need to go in that the team feels will help the games long term goals even if the community doesn't agree.
I guess that means that it is ok to punish legitimate grinders who work for combat xp for trade in as opposed to the grenade throwing lamers....who exploited the system...lets just screw everyone at the same time and not try and fix the grenade xp issue...it's much better to kill 2 birds with 1 stone...we can stop the exploiting and slow down those people who are grinding fs to become jedi....that way they will probably keep playing and paying...no matter what we do to them.
Yeah...I'm still on about this...
It's a poor way to treat honest people and asad attempt to slow down those who have legitimately worked to get FS up untill this point....
Maybee...but theres to many jedi...so you lose.
I like how the devs are griefing all the people who are trying to be jedi.
It shouldn't matter how many Jedi there are. I should have the equal oppertunity to get Jedi at the same pace as those who came before me.
tralita_tusnami wrote:
Landlubber wrote:
Tiggs wrote:
Regarding the Smuggler upgrade it will come.
Whoa... am I the only one who's had a serious deja vu feeling right now?
The point is, we heard it all before, but when are you (meaning SOE, not you personally Tiggs) going to deliver? That's the problem, you see: we've had so many broken promises that there's hardly anyone around that will take the above statement seriously. At least I know that I'll believe in it when I see it, not one second sooner.
And anyway, what happened to JFreeman's "We're going to stop promising a Smuggler Revamp we never seem to get around to deliver"?? Maybe you should heed that advice, Tiggs. Because making promises like this only opens you up to flames, when yet again your Dev team won't come through.
how does this open her up to flames? she said it would come, not when or what it would consist of, its the same as saying "soon TM"
True, but people on this forum (not the smuggler board specifically, the SWG forum in general) do have a tendency to personally blame the messenger, i.e. Tiggs. So when she says something like "The smuggler upgrade will come", and it does NOT come in due time (and remember, it has been promised before, and I don't think what's been implemented so far constitutes a smuggler upgrade for most of us), you'll get the "OMG!! Tiggs lied to us!!11!!" cries.
I think that's what JFreeman was driving at in his statement - he's come to the surprising (for a Dev) realization that in the current situation promises and announcements are mostly worthless, because this Dev team has lost all credibility with the players. It's actions that count.
In a way I feel sorry for Tiggs, because she has to make promises she herself is in no position to deliver on. But that's the job of a Community Relations person I guess. Sometimes I wonder if she even believes it herself any more when she gets told from the actual Developers "We're working on it, tell them it's coming"
tralita_tusnami wrote:
omg rueger_karde your quote is making me cry im laughing so hard
Glad to be of service.
I'm just tired of whinners. They whine about everthing. Why dont we take away jedi's lightsabers, the most iconic thing about thier proffesion.
I'll try to post more often when I'm in this mood (college in the morning...and I have to add 2 classes on the spot, I hate that crap), at least its makes someone happy... 
Rueger_Karde wrote:
Omicron2 wrote:
Rueger_Karde wrote:
Omicron2 wrote:
Tiggs wrote:
Sometimes changes need to go in that the team feels will help the games long term goals even if the community doesn't agree.
I guess that means that it is ok to punish legitimate grinders who work for combat xp for trade in as opposed to the grenade throwing lamers....who exploited the system...lets just screw everyone at the same time and not try and fix the grenade xp issue...it's much better to kill 2 birds with 1 stone...we can stop the exploiting and slow down those people who are grinding fs to become jedi....that way they will probably keep playing and paying...no matter what we do to them.
Yeah...I'm still on about this...
It's a poor way to treat honest people and asad attempt to slow down those who have legitimately worked to get FS up untill this point....
Maybee...but theres to many jedi...so you lose.
I like how the devs are griefing all the people who are trying to be jedi.
It shouldn't matter how many Jedi there are. I should have the equal oppertunity to get Jedi at the same pace as those who came before me.
Oh get off your high horse. Say that to the freshmen in california who are going to have to wait will thier 18 to get drivers licenses. The softmores (like my brother) are just fine and can get thiers at 16 and a half.
You want to be griefed? Play my template. Master SL master Smuggler.
I'm soory you didn't jump on the band wagon soon enough to reap the rewards.
Ouch. I feel for you. I was a squad leader once. Now that toon is my Merchant/WS/Artisan/Mule/Bank, ect. 2+ years into the game and not only is SL still borked, but the CU also screwed melee professions (when is the last time you saw a FENCER running around?).
Rueger_Karde wrote:
Oh get off your high horse. Say that to the freshmen in california who are going to have to wait will thier 18 to get drivers licenses. The softmores (like my brother) are just fine and can get thiers at 16 and a half.
You want to be griefed? Play my template. Master SL master Smuggler.
I'm soory you didn't jump on the band wagon soon enough to reap the rewards.