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Thread: publish 17....

Rhu
Fri May 20, 2005 9:52 pm
#14






Arsani wrote:
Does this mean we can do drive-bys now?





I like the way you think.


Though, since currently we still can't shoot from the backs of creature mounts anymore, I doubt that passengers will be able to start blasting targets from the back of vehicles.


Erahth
Fri May 20, 2005 10:23 pm
#15


If you honestly believe the smuggler revamp is being worked on, then I envy you your...innocence lol.


They've said they were going to do it within a few months - that was back in 2003 sometime.



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Ackehece
Fri May 20, 2005 10:28 pm
#16


well at least you did not get hit with the biggest nerf ever.... Poor Squad Leaders from barely worthwhile to worthless in 10 easy words....


check out what happened to Squad Leaders and Rangers



  • removal of the main abilities of a SL command(and pretty much the only reason people grouped with them)

  • removal of a core principle of Ranger and giving it to the community at large...



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Endjinneer
Fri May 20, 2005 10:57 pm
#17

Smuggler revamp, hahaha hehehe wohohoh *wetpants with laughing*






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Road-Kill21
Fri May 20, 2005 11:08 pm
#18






Arsani wrote:
Does this mean we can do drive-bys now?





Person A:"Yeah, that and now we cancruz around Theed and pick up chicks!"


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Arsani
Fri May 20, 2005 11:27 pm
#19

I just want a smug,
a smug is a guy who needs Dev love you see
Hanging out the passenger side,
of his best friends ride,
incapped from a LD...



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Ackehece
Fri May 20, 2005 11:46 pm
#20

the lars family speeder

7 passenger vehicle

the ad-1? is uber small (think miata) but fast - it is barely bigger then a bike but two passanger



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nerfherder321
Sat May 21, 2005 2:08 am
#21






Erahth wrote:





Ackehece wrote:


well at least you did not get hit with the biggest nerf ever.... Poor Squad Leaders from barely worthwhile to worthless in 10 easy words....


check out what happened to Squad Leaders and Rangers



  • removal of the main abilities of a SL command(and pretty much the only reason people grouped with them)

  • removal of a core principle of Ranger and giving it to the community at large...




Well, they were thinking of doing that to smugglers, too. But that would require having useful skills to begin with.






well SL, they dont have anything anyway

lucky us we werent in the giant nerf too


regardless

this is my feeling on it

if the Devs had time to create a system where they had multi passenger vehicles WHICH they could not do in the past, whcih means code tweaking and getting around the engine limiations... they ahd time to do a revamp which has been in progress for 2 years, or at LEAST give us a FF on it, or SOMETHING or even a HINT thats its coming




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Moricky
Sat May 21, 2005 2:56 am
#22

maybe its being smuggled in ^_______^



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Nicolas_Frost
Sat May 21, 2005 3:00 am
#23


nerfherder321 wrote:


Erahth wrote:


Ackehece wrote:

well at least you did not get hit with the biggest nerf ever.... Poor Squad Leaders from barely worthwhile to worthless in 10 easy words....

check out what happened to Squad Leaders and Rangers

  • removal of the main abilities of a SL command(and pretty much the only reason people grouped with them)
  • removal of a core principle of Ranger and giving it to the community at large...


Well, they were thinking of doing that to smugglers, too. But that would require having useful skills to begin with.



well SL, they dont have anything anyway
lucky us we werent in the giant nerf too
regardless
this is my feeling on it
if the Devs had time to create a system where they had multi passenger vehicles WHICH they could not do in the past, whcih means code tweaking and getting around the engine limiations... they ahd time to do a revamp which has been in progress for 2 years, or at LEAST give us a FF on it, or SOMETHING or even a HINT thats its coming





In my oppinion, the multi-player vehicles feature is simply a ground extension of multiplayer ships in space. Especially considering that the riders have to be invited aboard. They have the ability to accept or refuse. Riders can get off when they so choose. All riders are kicked off once the driver leaves his ride.

The only differences I see is that there's no terminal involved, no way for the driver to kick passengers off one-by-one(Before the change, Pilots could kick others off thier ship by disbanding the group, or removing them from the group, now that you can invite non-group members, I'm not quite certain.), and possibly no ability for the passengers to fire weapons while riding(Unless that gets added in, but unlikely, due to balance issues. If it does, it'll probably be like when riding mounts, no use of specials.).

I'm actually anticipating the bug which lets the driver store the vehicle while people are on it, and the players become like faction pets, stored in the Datapad. I think it'd be fun to train my friends' commands, store them, go to Dathomir, target a host of NightSisters, and say "Attack"



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maxtheusher
Sat May 21, 2005 3:32 am
#24

Actually multiplayer vehicles is something they were GOING to have originally, before they implemented vehicles. Then they tried to implement vehicles and couldn't get the MP function to work right...

Well, cool, they got it to work. And apparently, the guy who asked them to forgo the Smuggler revamp in favor of fixing everyone elses professions, which have only been moderately borked, for less than a month now, so, YAY! We get sh|tted on again. helllloooo? Our profession has been borked for 2 years and beyond.

Wes, I understand where you're coming from with the "Well it's going to be before Tailor gets revamped" thing, but, this is still them giving priority to other professions. Hell, we're not even mentioned in the publish. We have issues with our CU functionality. We've got 4 specials that amount to 2 specials' worth of usefulness, slicing is a HUGE issue, spices are stacking with no word as to whether they should (I sure as hell don't think they should, these health buffs are worse than pre-cu). And that's not even mentioning the actual revamp stuff. We didn't just NOT get revamped, we got our issues ignored over other professions.

7 passenger vehicle? Like a minivan? I call shotgun, rodians and/or boffans ride b|tch. I guess the wookiee can choose the station.



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Votiva
Sat May 21, 2005 4:41 am
#25

You know, if they're gonna push back our revamp in favor of some MP vehicles, then give us Im's an AT-AT dammit, then I might actually think it's worth it. Otherwise we'll just be driving around with our friends in the SW equivalent of a minivan (and the first one of you who refers to me as "soccar mom" is getting punched in the eye) But seriously, I want useful vehicles, not a Bronco.

And why the hell can't I shoot stuff with my speeder? I mean come on...how wonderful would that be? I've got my scout trooper duds, my scout trooper bike..now just let me shoot the dammed gun.



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maxtheusher
Sat May 21, 2005 4:57 am
#26



Votiva wrote:
You know, if they're gonna push back our revamp in favor of some MP vehicles, then give us Im's an AT-AT dammit, then I might actually think it's worth it. Otherwise we'll just be driving around with our friends in the SW equivalent of a minivan (and the first one of you who refers to me as "soccar mom" is getting punched in the eye) But seriously, I want useful vehicles, not a Bronco.

And why the hell can't I shoot stuff with my speeder? I mean come on...how wonderful would that be? I've got my scout trooper duds, my scout trooper bike..now just let me shoot the dammed gun.




It's a matter of you can't do non-twitch-based combat with speeders without it being incredibly stupid. Same for At-Ats, and the obviously ensuing rebel speeders (snowspeeders). speaking of which, why don't rebels have those? they could be like jet packs and hover at a set distance above the ground. Ooh, and we could attatch to other speeders and drag them around with the tow cable



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