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Thread: Skills to replace FD: Suicide and Decoy skill

Shrendyc
Mon Oct 25, 2004 9:43 am
#14

What if we got a special shot called "disorient" that basically causes them to drop their target of us, and makes their mouse controls screwey for 10 seconds (make it overly sensitive, maybe rotate the axis 35 degrees..), so all the recipientcan do is lurch around for awhile,and give ustime enough to get some distance on them and get away. Put it on a minute timer so it can't be spammed. That would force you to make a run for it if the shot connected; if you stand there and try to take them down, the target will most likely beat you when they get back to rights.


Smugglers should also be able to call a speeder while in combat. If we're meant to get away, it sure is hampered if I can't get on my bike and run away. Once I get attacked, I'm basically dead meat without the right evasion and escape tools.


If smugglers aren't meant to fight, but meant to run away, then dammit, give me the ability to do so. Right now, a pure smuggler in a fight is basically a damage absorber for the other people in his group.


Heh - Dammit Caylin, I'm a smuggler, not a damage capacitor.



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VegitoX
Mon Oct 25, 2004 2:40 pm
#15






Bzzzz wrote:




VegitoX wrote:




Suicide:

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No way. I'm a smuggler, not a terrorist suicide-bomber. Furthermore, I'm also aselfish businessman and not about to martyr myself for "friends" (or as I like to call them: "Business-Associates").


Haha, I really wasn't thinking of this skill in a heroic way, but I see where you're coming from. I was thinking of this more on the lines of defense. I hope people dont think im asking for us to be terrorist, butthis issomething that's been done time and timeagain inthe movies and in the books. Again, i'm perfectly happy with FD mind you...but if we have to loseFDl, then I want something useful.






VegitoX wrote:



Decoy:





While I like the idea here, the execution reminds more more of a big purple displacer-beast than a smuggler. I like the premise, though.Maybe something to better represent our guile rather than technology (that anyone could conceivably use)? More of a "Hey, look over there! It's Elvis!" kind of thing. Upon a successful roll (modified for DF rank and obviously much better for masters), we'd be untargetted and be temporarily invisible for a period of time (to be determinedby skill level). Like Panic-Shot, any further attacks on our part would break it (so having /ui action clearCombatQueue;/peace integrated into the command would be nice).


I like it, but it would be very hard to represent a Smuggler's guile without the use of technology in some way. This is not my vision, just ideas or what ifs.


-Zz










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VegitoX
Tue Oct 26, 2004 12:07 am
#16






DigiDante wrote:
Suicide would NEVER be in game.

The name reflects killing ones self. There are little kids that play this game and having a move called suicide... that would not sit well. I know I wouldn't want my kid playing a game where he could kill himself... other peoples a whole different story.

A different name possible, good ideas, but not suicide.

Message Edited by DigiDante on 10-24-2004 09:51 PM





Yeah, thats why I wrote "or something to that effect". The general idea behind it os basically the old thermal detonator Bluff...where you're willing to take out yourself as well as someone else. ...which in my opinion is a form of dirty fighting.





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VegitoX
Tue Oct 26, 2004 12:11 am
#17






Smuggler_Caylin wrote:

I'm not a big fan of suicide because our goal should be to stay alive


Decoy however is how I've been thinking lately, but how to make it plausible is a different beast entirely.


How am I going to fool a guy who is beating on me with a 2h broadsword with a holo image? I don't think it would work well.


It is however an active approach to solving the problem of feign death and I think if we push for something that keeps us active in the game instead of chillin' and talking smack with someone who is screaming 'exploiter' at us.


Keeping a skill useful while maintaining those primary motivations. Surviving and getting the hell away.






Yeah, I figured something like this would have to be done prior to combat. lol, it would be really...well,dumb, for a player to be knocked downto the ground and then to magically be replaced by a decoy. But yeah, im just thinking of examples of useful skills.



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Bzzzz
Tue Oct 26, 2004 12:25 am
#18




VegitoX wrote:





Suicide:

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No way. I'm a smuggler, not a terrorist suicide-bomber. Furthermore, I'm also aselfish businessman and not about to martyr myself for "friends" (or as I like to call them: "Business-Associates").







VegitoX wrote:



Decoy:





While I like the idea here, the execution reminds more more of a big purple displacer-beast than a smuggler. I like the premise, though.Maybe something to better represent our guile rather than technology (that anyone could conceivably use)? More of a "Hey, look over there! It's Elvis!" kind of thing. Upon a successful roll (modified for DF rank and obviously much better for masters), we'd be untargetted and be temporarily invisible for a period of time (to be determinedby skill level). Like Panic-Shot, any further attacks on our part would break it (so having /ui action clearCombatQueue;/peace integrated into the command would be nice).


So a "Hey! Look over there!" would pretty much replace Feign as it is now for PvE, but since we can't use it to rest up and heal, it'd clearus offmob hate-lists (and thereby be less of a problem for grouping).It would also beless invincible in PVP whilst adding some value for those of us that don't want to be black-rot griefed.



-Zz

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