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EEMAN

Thu Aug 18, 2005 8:58 pm

TashunkaSapa wrote:
Yeah? Well, Lucas Arts doesn't write the buggy code - so SOE's not out from under the gun as far as I'm concerned.

but LA has to approve the code fixes and dictates if programmers can be allocated to needed fixes. If placating more jedi whiners is deemed 'more important' by LA and their bag of one-trick-ponies *cough*jedi*cough*, then SOE is still at their reign of control.

What could be telling is that those 'cracks' starting to appear could be due to a nearing of contract renewal. What if SOE is so fed up they dont renew? Then what? Warner dumped MxO right after release and within months SOE bought them. Hope something similar doesnt happen. I would hate for Electronic Arts to get ahold of this.. they are the death of all game titles that arent sports.

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TashunkaSapa

Thu Aug 18, 2005 10:42 pm

#15

EEMAN wrote:

but LA has to approve the code fixes and dictates if programmers can be allocated to needed fixes.

Indeed - but my point is, the sloppy code originates from SOE alone. We're talking about a 2 year old game that really needs 1GB to run well and 2GB to run smooth all the time, where a 128MB video card will do but a 256MB card is needed to run everything on high... this kind of hardware didn't even exist when SWG was released. A 2 year old game should run without a hithch on a new PC, even with everything on high.

Message Edited by TashunkaSapa on 08-19-2005 01:43 AM

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Col_Osiris

Fri Aug 19, 2005 1:02 am

#16

TashunkaSapa wrote:

EEMAN wrote:

but LA has to approve the code fixes and dictates if programmers can be allocated to needed fixes.

Indeed - but my point is, the sloppy code originates from SOE alone. We're talking about a 2 year old game that really needs 1GB to run well and 2GB to run smooth all the time, where a 128MB video card will do but a 256MB card is needed to run everything on high... this kind of hardware didn't even exist when SWG was released. A 2 year old game should run without a hithch on a new PC, even with everything on high.

Message Edited by TashunkaSapa on 08-19-200501:43 AM

Tashunka does have a point here. This game was released when buying a top end machine meant purchasing a 1.5 GHz P4, with 256MB DDR, 40GB 5200RPM HDD,and a 64 MB GPU..... and Cable Broadband was just about to hit full swing.

I have a 3.0GHZ P4, 1GB DDR, 80GB 10kRPM HDD, and a 256MB GPU. I have twice the PC, and then some, to what the top of the line was two years ago, and I can barely scratch out 15FPS.

I woul dlike to beleive this game has serious graphics that is a resource hog, but I dotn see it and I dont beleive it. Sure, it look spretty good, but Ive seen a whole heck of a lot better, and I run pretty smooth on those. I think really that there are a lot of memory leak problems going on...... a LOT!. There is no way this game should take the PC it takes in order to run. This game runs about as well as EQ2 does, and EQ2 has a lot more going on graphically than this game does.

tabion

Fri Aug 19, 2005 3:34 am

#17

cpz wrote:
So I feel kind of bad that my venom's been aimed at the hapless fools at SOE. Oh well, sincerest apologies, SOE. You guys only suck at Community Relations and QA testing
Clicky to Virrago's post

Sure LA has to approve every Patch, but not like SOE want to make us believ. SOE just make the change, and than they run to LA and say "we have this fixed and that", or just "we have a new pub", and LA give tham the approve. perhaps the only really approve LA will go in detail is, if SOE is adding new Content, or new SW stuff like the vehickle or the rewards etc.....LA has to approve that they are Star Warsy.

I will not say that LA are the Angel and SOE are the Devil, both of them don't really care about us!!, but if u see how SWG is changing more to EQ2, like the more and more loot system and the Grind only game system.... and don't forget EQ2 is from SOE

Message Edited by tabion on 08-19-2005 03:37 AM

SmugglinZane

Fri Aug 19, 2005 4:33 am

#18

Col_Osiris wrote:

Tashunka does have a point here. This game was released when buying a top end machine meant purchasing a 1.5 GHz P4, with 256MB DDR, 40GB 5200RPM HDD,and a 64 MB GPU..... and Cable Broadband was just about to hit full swing.

I have a 3.0GHZ P4, 1GB DDR, 80GB 10kRPM HDD, and a 256MB GPU. I have twice the PC, and then some, to what the top of the line was two years ago, and I can barely scratch out 15FPS.

I woul dlike to beleive this game has serious graphics that is a resource hog, but I dotn see it and I dont beleive it. Sure, it look spretty good, but Ive seen a whole heck of a lot better, and I run pretty smooth on those. I think really that there are a lot of memory leak problems going on...... a LOT!. There is no way this game should take the PC it takes in order to run. This game runs about as well as EQ2 does, and EQ2 has a lot more going on graphically than this game does.

I pretty much have the same computer as you and I don't ever drop below 26 FPS unless there's a problem with my ISP. Too many times players blame the game for their problems when it comes to lag and such when it's really their lack of computer and/or quality ISP that's to blame (not saying that's your problem but it is a common problem). When I started playing this game I was running the bare minimum (the original bare minimum)and I was miserable.This caused me to decide to build my next one myself to maximise my gameplay and upgrade capacity in the future.

I think the engine and the code of this game are such that stress computers more than they actually need to, but playing on the better computer definitely makes a huge difference. My laptop is not that far off from my desktop, but there are things that I did to make my desktop better that I couldn't control on my laptop, and I want to rip my hair out when I'm playing on my laptop.

Anyway, yeah, for the amount of resources this game can suck up, the payoff isn't as good as what you'd expect, but it is good. This all goes back to the rush out of beta. If anyone remembers the discussion on the forums during design, they had plans to use an entirely new engine as well as some other things. LA didn't want to wait that long. They wanted a piece of the MMO market and they wanted faster than they should have gotten it. They announced a date that Austin had to meet (sound familiar?).Once again, here's to the game that could/should have been.

Message Edited by SmugglinZane on 08-19-2005 07:34 AM

"Jedi claims of being "broken" are like saying "But my TV isn't widescreen! It's broken! My TV can't show high-def pictures in 1080i, it can only do 720i! It's broken!" Meanwhile, crafters are saying "We'd really like to have a TV that's larger than 12" and gets more than 4 channels and doesn't constantly lose vertical control", and entertainers are saying "Can we get some color instead of this B&W piece of junk?" And smugglers? We're listening to radio programs of "The Shadow" and "The Abbot and Costello Comedy Hour" and hearing FDR's Fireside Chats. We don't even HAVE a damn TV, much less a broken one or a "broken" one by Jedi standards. I'd LOVE to be as "broken" as they are." - The Legendary Solo4114

dlc3007

Fri Aug 19, 2005 5:52 am

#19

great.... now I've got to log back in and change the names of all my houses from "SOE fcked up this game" to "LA fcked up this game"

Oh, well... still have a few days to get around to it.

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cpz

Fri Aug 19, 2005 6:02 am

#20

dlc3007 wrote:

great.... now I've got to log back in and change the names of all my houses from "SOE fcked up this game" to "LA fcked up this game"

Oh, well... still have a few days to get around to it.

Heh

I'll be doing the same on Eclipse next week

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Rancor418

Fri Aug 19, 2005 12:40 pm

#21

This has been stated a few times in the past that LA has to approve publishs. Anything to do with star wars has to go through them first.

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