Smuggler Archive

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SmugglinZane wrote:

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RyFord wrote:

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SmugglinZane wrote:

1. Actually the problem is with the anger states not the Smuggler specials.

2. It is not an exploit to use FD.

3. Actually, LB stated has a good chance kd'ing opponent before the CU. The move changed with the CU and hasn't been a KD since.

As far as I'm concerned, the only issues we have with combat are this:

1. We're not supposed to be a combat oriented profession. Everyone needs to stop focusing on combat when they talk about Smuggler so we can become the content driven profession like we're supposed to be. (No offense directed towards the original poster.)

2. If they are going to insist on keeping our role in combat, then we need a pure root. At the current time we are not the 5 in crowd control as intended. Add a pure root and fix the bugs of the anger icons, and we'd be set... But like I said, Smugglers should be talking about Smuggling, not what their faction rank or PvP rating is unless it pertains to the shipment you snuck past some blockade.

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And people who don't worry over the combat portions should stay out of threads about combat and refrain from again spilling their ideas on it

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I know you, the king of all Smuggler posers here is not telling someone they should be staying out of a thread. That last point I made was exactly because of people like you around here. You care nothing about the single biggest problem for this profession.

Thank you very much for proving my point. Now go back and read the rest of what I said that had to do with the original topic.

Trolls like you don't belong here. You're only concerned with how the crowd control skills work for you. I am concerned with the ENTIRE profession, and I'm sick and tired of people like you coming here telling me how beautiful we are because the only thing you took this profession for was post CU combat skills.

I've already made my point about ourcombat specialsin my original post, this was just a secondary discussion that developed. Why don't you respond to that if you want to discuss our specials.

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16BitHero wrote:

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SmugglinZane wrote:

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16BitHero wrote:

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SmugglinZane wrote:

1. Actually the problem is with the anger states not the Smuggler specials.

2. It is not an exploit to use FD.

3. Actually, LB stated has a good chance kd'ing opponent before the CU. The move changed with the CU and hasn't been a KD since.

As far as I'm concerned, the only issues we have with combat are this:

1. We're not supposed to be a combat oriented profession. Everyone needs to stop focusing on combat when they talk about Smuggler so we can become the content driven profession like we're supposed to be. (No offense directed towards the original poster.)

2. If they are going to insist on keeping our role in combat, then we need a pure root. At the current time we are not the 5 in crowd control as intended. Add a pure root and fix the bugs of the anger icons, and we'd be set... But like I said, Smugglers should be talking about Smuggling, not what their faction rank or PvP rating is unless it pertains to the shipment you snuck past some blockade.

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I'm gonna try and be nice and not completly flame you because of your opinion but anyway back on subject, I never said there was a problem with our specials, just the way people exploit to break them.. as you can see in the first number in my post.In the begining of the CU LB never KD'ed but it did say in the statement that it had a chance to KD.

Weather or not you're upset because you can't smuggle since day one is pointless to the fact that wealways have been acombat profesion,will continue to be a combat profesion and will always be a combat profesion. You need to stop being so one sided on this (I've seen you attack other PvP'ing smugglers before) and realise that smuggler in general needs more attention, not just to smuggle and not just to PvP.

A normal root would be nice but really isn't nessesery, we have a nice snare and two dealys to stop people from attacking us, but hey if we can get a normal root I'm down =D.

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Actually, the only people I attack here are those who seem to think it's ok to attack people for wanting to smuggle and those who want to make SMUGGLEr all about the combat aspect.

If you want to post something about what's wrong with our combat abilities then you better be ready for feedback. The real answer to it all is that you have only had Smuggler in your template since the CU. It's blatantly obvious. So in response to your post I addressed where I saw the problems, but also the problems of what too many in this community has become about.

IF THE ONLY REASON YOU HAVE SMUGGLER IS FOR THE CROWD CONTROL ABILITIES IN COMBAT THEN YOU ARE A CROWD CONTROLLER, NOT A SMUGGLER.

Anytime anyone deflects the real problems that this profession has had since launch, you're damn right I'm gonna point that out. I even tried to tell you that I wasn't trying to direct what I said at you, but more in a general arc at what I see going on here lately.

This community was made up of vocal SMUGGLErs who got tired of the bull**edit** and have walked away. In their place has stepped in people who want to say that smuggling isn't important and that Smuggler rules because of their crowd control specials... they even blatantly flaunt their loyalties to other professions over Smuggler while trying to say they have the best interest of Smuggler at heart.

Now if you don't mind, go back and read what I wrote in response to your original topic. Just because I provided more than what you wanted doesn't mean that I didn't point out some pretty damned obvious repsonses to your points.

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Your ignorance amazes me.. You know nothing about me and you acuse me of being a smuggler only since the CU.. FYI I've been a smuggler since I got this game in January 04.

And another thing you do that doesn't really suprize me is how often you contradict yourself, stating how we aren't smugglers so we shouldn't be posting here but yet someone who is so against PvP'ing smugglers is posting in a PvP'ing thread.. if you don't like the PvP'ers who play the game then stay out of our threads.. we stay out of your RP stuff and rants about wanting to smuggle.

(But I see J-Timberlake pointed most of that out)

Yes everyone understansd you wan't to smuggle you've wanted to smuggle since day 1 and you've waited forever... to be honest this has nothing to do with the fact that SMUGGLERS USED TO BE FOR PVP AND THEY STILL ARE MENT FOR PVP.. now we just want to address the issues we have at hand. We should be working together to solve the non-pvpers problems and the pvp-ers problems.. but Drama Queens such as yourself are always looking for a fight and attention.

I also noticed you called Timberlake a troll.. but if you failed to realise he had 0 trolling in this thread he was doing exactly what threads are made for.. contributing, you on the other hand get off the subject and tend to stroke your ePeen about how you've been a smuggler and we're all posers without you even knowing us....having little to do with the main topic.... looks to me like you're more of the troll.

Believe it or not... mostof the PvP'ing smugglers such as myself from Pre-Cu actually wanted a better role in PvP and we have been waiting for it just as long as you guys have wanted to smuggle.. we just got a nice treatment at the begining of the CU you guys have to wait a little longer but hey thats life... none of you have ANY right to complain.

Message Edited by 16BitHero on 10-02-200508:34 PM

Message Edited by 16BitHero on 10-02-200508:36 PM

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