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Thread: Smuggler top 3 PvP Bugs/Issues...
) I thought I'd make this to help all of us Smuggler PvP'ers out, just post the top three things that you want and/or bother you at the moment.
16BitHero wrote:
(On a side note.. was Last Ditch ninja nerfed? It seems to hit for alot less then it used to)
To be brutally honest, I wouldn't be surprised if it was ninja/stealth nerfed.
1. Actually the problem is with the anger states not the Smuggler specials.
2. It is not an exploit to use FD.
3. Actually, LB stated has a good chance kd'ing opponent before the CU. The move changed with the CU and hasn't been a KD since.
As far as I'm concerned, the only issues we have with combat are this:
1. We're not supposed to be a combat oriented profession. Everyone needs to stop focusing on combat when they talk about Smuggler so we can become the content driven profession like we're supposed to be. (No offense directed towards the original poster.)
2. If they are going to insist on keeping our role in combat, then we need a pure root. At the current time we are not the 5 in crowd control as intended. Add a pure root and fix the bugs of the anger icons, and we'd be set... But like I said, Smugglers should be talking about Smuggling, not what their faction rank or PvP rating is unless it pertains to the shipment you snuck past some blockade.
nasafan2 wrote:
16BitHero wrote:
(On a side note.. was Last Ditch ninja nerfed? It seems to hit for alot less then it used to)
To be brutally honest, I wouldn't be surprised if it was ninja/stealth nerfed.
If it was I'd be surprised also because it's been pretty crappy from the start... It was never that effective nor was it intended to be. I think what happens is the reality of the skill starts catching up with people and they're disappointed.
SmugglinZane wrote:
1. Actually the problem is with the anger states not the Smuggler specials.
2. It is not an exploit to use FD.
3. Actually, LB stated has a good chance kd'ing opponent before the CU. The move changed with the CU and hasn't been a KD since.
As far as I'm concerned, the only issues we have with combat are this:
1. We're not supposed to be a combat oriented profession. Everyone needs to stop focusing on combat when they talk about Smuggler so we can become the content driven profession like we're supposed to be. (No offense directed towards the original poster.)
2. If they are going to insist on keeping our role in combat, then we need a pure root. At the current time we are not the 5 in crowd control as intended. Add a pure root and fix the bugs of the anger icons, and we'd be set... But like I said, Smugglers should be talking about Smuggling, not what their faction rank or PvP rating is unless it pertains to the shipment you snuck past some blockade.
I'm gonna try and be nice and not completly flame you because of your opinion but anyway back on subject, I never said there was a problem with our specials, just the way people exploit to break them.. as you can see in the first number in my post.In the begining of the CU LB never KD'ed but it did say in the statement that it had a chance to KD.
Weather or not you're upset because you can't smuggle since day one is pointless to the fact that wealways have been acombat profesion,will continue to be a combat profesion and will always be a combat profesion. You need to stop being so one sided on this (I've seen you attack other PvP'ing smugglers before) and realise that smuggler in general needs more attention, not just to smuggle and not just to PvP.
A normal root would be nice but really isn't nessesery, we have a nice snare and two dealys to stop people from attacking us, but hey if we can get a normal root I'm down =D.
16BitHero wrote:
Since Wes is to busy trying to get us all to smuggle (Thank you Wes
1. Concussion Shot/Panic Shot- There are a few problems with these two moves ATM, one of them is the fact that people can duel other people (there friends/other people overt with them on there faction) to break the move and get out of our delay. Another is that people can use stim's while they are Concussioned/Paniced
2. Feign Death- We need an offical word if this is supposed to work in PvP or not, I get tells all the time telling me to stop exploiting in heavely outnumberd fights. Another issue is.. IF it is working as intended people can use Bomb Droids to kill us while FD. A 3ed issue would be is there supposed to be a timer on it since we get up randomly?
3. Knockdown- In the begining of the CU lowblows discription said "has a high chance of knocking down an opponent" then was removed shortly after. I think to completly fill our 4 as Crowd Control we should have a KD.
(On a side note.. was Last Ditch ninja nerfed? It seems to hit for alot less then it used to)
I agree with 1 and 2, but my #3 would have to be getting an improved low blow in the master box with increased duration. Low blow is nice, but it doesn't really last long enough in my opinion. If that doesn't fly, then I'd have to go with either removing the defense penalty on reckless shot or make the multiplier worth the penalty, either/or.
Message Edited by Iawo on 10-01-2005 07:54 PM
newbExtraordinaire wrote:
I don't think Last ditch has been stealth nerfed. In the last week, i've hit for both 4500 abd 1200. It's just very unreliable.
i got up after been incaped adn did a last ditch right away and die 12k dmg now that is a good attack
16BitHero wrote:
SmugglinZane wrote:
1. Actually the problem is with the anger states not the Smuggler specials.
2. It is not an exploit to use FD.
3. Actually, LB stated has a good chance kd'ing opponent before the CU. The move changed with the CU and hasn't been a KD since.
As far as I'm concerned, the only issues we have with combat are this:
1. We're not supposed to be a combat oriented profession. Everyone needs to stop focusing on combat when they talk about Smuggler so we can become the content driven profession like we're supposed to be. (No offense directed towards the original poster.)
2. If they are going to insist on keeping our role in combat, then we need a pure root. At the current time we are not the 5 in crowd control as intended. Add a pure root and fix the bugs of the anger icons, and we'd be set... But like I said, Smugglers should be talking about Smuggling, not what their faction rank or PvP rating is unless it pertains to the shipment you snuck past some blockade.
I'm gonna try and be nice and not completly flame you because of your opinion but anyway back on subject, I never said there was a problem with our specials, just the way people exploit to break them.. as you can see in the first number in my post.In the begining of the CU LB never KD'ed but it did say in the statement that it had a chance to KD.
Weather or not you're upset because you can't smuggle since day one is pointless to the fact that wealways have been acombat profesion,will continue to be a combat profesion and will always be a combat profesion. You need to stop being so one sided on this (I've seen you attack other PvP'ing smugglers before) and realise that smuggler in general needs more attention, not just to smuggle and not just to PvP.
A normal root would be nice but really isn't nessesery, we have a nice snare and two dealys to stop people from attacking us, but hey if we can get a normal root I'm down =D.
And people who don't worry over the combat portions should stay out of threads about combat and refrain from again spilling their ideas on it
SmugglinZane wrote:
1. Actually the problem is with the anger states not the Smuggler specials.
2. It is not an exploit to use FD.
3. Actually, LB stated has a good chance kd'ing opponent before the CU. The move changed with the CU and hasn't been a KD since.
As far as I'm concerned, the only issues we have with combat are this:
1. We're not supposed to be a combat oriented profession. Everyone needs to stop focusing on combat when they talk about Smuggler so we can become the content driven profession like we're supposed to be. (No offense directed towards the original poster.)
2. If they are going to insist on keeping our role in combat, then we need a pure root. At the current time we are not the 5 in crowd control as intended. Add a pure root and fix the bugs of the anger icons, and we'd be set... But like I said, Smugglers should be talking about Smuggling, not what their faction rank or PvP rating is unless it pertains to the shipment you snuck past some blockade.
Smuggling and combat/ PvPgo hand in hand. What about possible BH missions? Blockades, searches, ect....
"We aren't meant to be a combat profession": Like a Carbineer or Rifleman. We aren't all combat. We have some combat as it is essential to our survival. But that combat is pretty bad right now....
RyFord wrote:
And people who don't worry over the combat portions should stay out of threads about combat and refrain from again spilling their ideas on it
SmugglinZane wrote:
1. Actually the problem is with the anger states not the Smuggler specials.
2. It is not an exploit to use FD.
3. Actually, LB stated has a good chance kd'ing opponent before the CU. The move changed with the CU and hasn't been a KD since.
As far as I'm concerned, the only issues we have with combat are this:
1. We're not supposed to be a combat oriented profession. Everyone needs to stop focusing on combat when they talk about Smuggler so we can become the content driven profession like we're supposed to be. (No offense directed towards the original poster.)
2. If they are going to insist on keeping our role in combat, then we need a pure root. At the current time we are not the 5 in crowd control as intended. Add a pure root and fix the bugs of the anger icons, and we'd be set... But like I said, Smugglers should be talking about Smuggling, not what their faction rank or PvP rating is unless it pertains to the shipment you snuck past some blockade.
I know you, the king of all Smuggler posers here is not telling someone they should be staying out of a thread. That last point I made was exactly because of people like you around here. You care nothing about the single biggest problem for this profession.
Thank you very much for proving my point. Now go back and read the rest of what I said that had to do with the original topic.
Trolls like you don't belong here. You're only concerned with how the crowd control skills work for you. I am concerned with the ENTIRE profession, and I'm sick and tired of people like you coming here telling me how beautiful we are because the only thing you took this profession for was post CU combat skills.
I've already made my point about ourcombat specialsin my original post, this was just a secondary discussion that developed. Why don't you respond to that if you want to discuss our specials.
this is exactly part of the reason I dropped smuggler.. too many damn people worried about the combat portion of it..
I'd love to have the pre CU smuggler back.. *sigh*.. or at least somethin close to it..
and some actually SMUGGLING!!!!!!!!
Message Edited by atone48732 on 10-02-2005 06:43 PM