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Thread: 50k per slice sound reasonable?
Ramsey_Lanclo wrote:
aibo220 wrote:
I won't even pay 5k for a slice. It's absurd. Especially when there is a 9 piece armor set or mulitple weapons to get sliced.
Oh? But you had no problem paying 15k for Dr. buffs in the old system that lasted for three hours?
A slice lasts the lifetime of the weapon/armor - and 5k's too much to ask?
Hope you don't come to me for a slice.
EDIT: Oh... Just realized your SIG... Naturally you wouldn't pay 5k for a slice...Message Edited by Ramsey_Lanclo on 05-07-2005 10:10 PM
15K for buffs was a good deal considering the fact you can do 3 missions and make that back plus more. Buffs were also a requirement to do anything and even more so, took alot of time and commitment from doctors.
Slices are not a requirement nor were they ever. Slices also don't benefit as much as buffs do unless you were to get a 30% damage slice. Smugglers also do not need to put as much time and effort into slicing itself or crafting the tools. Resource quality doesn't matter as it did for doctor buffs. It has also always been said that slicing armor/weapons makes them decay faster, something I never really checked into so I can't say 100%.
And what about my sig makes you think I wouldn't pay 5k for a slice?
I personally charge 15k, and less just say I'm out of tools, after having bought enough to make over 3 mil in profits... that's around 2000 slices...
I just sliced a suit of RIS post CU at my normal price.
I've sliced 2 full suits of armor, and 5 weapons for one person at that rate, and if anything, people are happier now, since armor has two fewer pieces to slice, now that boots and gloves have no stats.
People looking to get guns sliced are more than likely going to be participating in the end game. They're at their peak. Most guns I get handed to me have some kind of "uber"ness to them. same with Armor. 105k is simply the premium for having the best set of armor when you walk into a fight. If you've already paid 500-600k to get the best dammed suit of armor you can find, more if you wanted that factional suit, another hundred is not going to faze you.
I've sliced POST-CU CDEFS for 15k. If you want the advantage in a situation, you'll get the advantage in a situation, whether that costs you 15k, 50k, or 50 million. Slicing is not for newbs. It doesn't help them in any significant way. It's for the experienced player looking to squeeze that much more performance out of his toon.
If you're not willing to pay the price of a slice, you're not in the market for one.
You have to ask yourself: What is my role in the game? Is it to make life for greedy little punks like aibo220 (named for a robotic toy dog -- how cute) easier by improving their weapons and armor for little or nothing? or is it to make money? Personally, I choose the latter.
dlc3007 wrote:You have to ask yourself: What is my role in the game? Is it to make life for greedy little punks like aibo220 (named for a robotic toy dog -- how cute) easier by improving their weapons and armor for little or nothing? or is it to make money? Personally, I choose the latter.
Hmm.. Thanks for the insults. /sarcasim off
The smugglers main source of income is selling FP... Not slicing. Charging 50k for a slice makes you, the smuggler, the greedy one... Not me. And don't try to say it's playing your "role" in the game either as it's not. Those who charge 50k for slices are the ones who are unhappy as a smuggler and are choosing to NOT fill their role.
If a person enjoys the Smuggler professian and wishes to fully play their role they would charge a decent and fair price. Only reason a person would charge 50k is because they are fed up and annoyed.
/tell smuggler hi are you slicing?
/tell protential customer sure, but for 50k.
/tell smuggler oh nevermind
/think i got better things to do than slice weapons which is one of my key roles in the Star Wars universe. I ain't going to bother fulfilling my role or helping others unless there is a huge pay.
But ya... You're just "filling your role." Just as how doctors did when they would ask for 50k for a buff in the early morning when no other doctors were around either because either:
A) They were abusing the situation
or
B) Had no interest in fulfilling their duty so would ask for a price no one would pay which lets them go on with whatever they were doing unless someone does want to pay which in that case they don't mind the few minutes it takes as they know they are making a killing off the profit.... And this type of scenario would happen at any time of day regardless of the amount of doctors on.
You're absolutely right. What was I thinking? I'm only here to be your slice-monkey and improve your equpiment for you. How could I have been so foolish as to think that I should make a profit when clearly my role is simply to serve others. </sarcasm>
As for your comment about doctors "abusing" the situation when they were the only ones provide buffs? Sure! That's great! Make as much money as you can off people who can't play without buffs! Wanna guess how much my spices are now?
Clearly you're under the mistaken impression that others are in the game simply to enhance your game playing experience. I suppose weapon smiths should give you free weapons. Free armor for the robot puppy! Heaven forbid a Doctor or Smuggler make any money off you!
btw - I think "greedy" and "smuggler" go together quite nicely, thank you. /roflmao
The reason their isn't a special interface for slicing the way IDs have, is because slicing was never intended to be used as a source of income.
It was meant for the smugglers to affect their own guns, and their own armor.
It was the first person who either decided to OFFER money to a smuggler, or the first smuggler who decided he could make money slicing for other people that turned slicing into what it is now.
No smuggler can be happy if the majority of the population feels that slicing is our key role. Having my Master Smuggler tag up shouldn't be an invite to a bunch of /tell hey, could you slice sum weapons 4 me?
We're not sitting in a cantina, we're not forming a "slice line" in Cnet, we're going about our daily business, and people EXPECT slices from us.
Charging 50k is not the way out of slicing. The way out of slicing is either, "I don't have tools" or "I don't slice."
For now I ask for donations only. I sliced a few Pistols for a BH and got -1% dmg 8%dmg 8% dmg yesterday. and his donation was 15k.
I also sliced a set of Imp armor for a guildie....100k tip there.
But when the re-vamp hits my slice's WILL not only become a set price BUT that price will be WELL WORTH MY TIME!
For the grind that truly sucked to get to master ( Not a re-spec smuggler) and for all the 30% dmg slices that netted me a whopping 5k...which barely paid for the parts let alone my time...
as for the Doctors who overcharged when buffs were the way to make money.....I was a doc before smuggler..and never charged more then 12k even when buffs were going for 15-25k a set. and I grinded doc and smuggler without macros etc...so all this " If you charge high your greedy crap " is just that! while i was buffing people like you up and slicing your stuff so you could go grind/make money/earn skills/loot uber stuff i was sitting and praying for the end of the end of the line so I could go and get a bit of xp before i logged...Greed, not here....I did my time helping others by buffing and slicing while they got rich running solo missions getting 300k an hour for 3.5 hours from a 12-15k buff.....using uber sliced weapons....
Now I Say Its Time For Smugglers! Let us unite and show the people who dont want to pay us for our craft that our weapons and armor slices are worth a few extra credits. And If they dont want to pay .... let them use thier weapons and armor Without Slices!
As for Spice.....well lets not get me started on another subject.....maybe another time ...
aibo220 wrote:
dlc3007 wrote:You have to ask yourself: What is my role in the game? Is it to make life for greedy little punks like aibo220 (named for a robotic toy dog -- how cute) easier by improving their weapons and armor for little or nothing? or is it to make money? Personally, I choose the latter.
Hmm.. Thanks for the insults. /sarcasim off
The smugglers main source of income is selling FP... Not slicing. Charging 50k for a slice makes you, the smuggler, the greedy one... Not me. And don't try to say it's playing your "role" in the game either as it's not. Those who charge 50k for slices are the ones who are unhappy as a smuggler and are choosing to NOT fill their role.
If a person enjoys the Smuggler professian and wishes to fully play their role they would charge a decent and fair price. Only reason a person would charge 50k is because they are fed up and annoyed.
/tell smuggler hi are you slicing?
/tell protential customer sure, but for 50k.
/tell smuggler oh nevermind
/think i got better things to do than slice weapons which is one of my key roles in the Star Wars universe. I ain't going to bother fulfilling my role or helping others unless there is a huge pay.
But ya... You're just "filling your role." Just as how doctors did when they would ask for 50k for a buff in the early morning when no other doctors were around either because either:
A) They were abusing the situation
or
B) Had no interest in fulfilling their duty so would ask for a price no one would pay which lets them go on with whatever they were doing unless someone does want to pay which in that case they don't mind the few minutes it takes as they know they are making a killing off the profit.... And this type of scenario would happen at any time of day regardless of the amount of doctors on.
My role is to enjoy the game. I'll charge what I damn well please for a slice if, and only if, I feel like slicing. If not, you're out of luck.
Since I'm a GCW'er, I usually won't slice Imperial weapons/armor (unless they offer me an obscene amount of money, then the smuggler blood kicks in). With Rebs, I will say 'donation' if I'm on good terms with their guild tag. Otherwise, I charge depending on what they have and the typical 'idiot tax'.
Remember, you're an Underworld master. Your time is money, so charge them accordingly =)
