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Thread: Joras' FF report

Mentski
Fri Jun 03, 2005 8:25 pm
#14






maxtheusher wrote:
ITS NOT A GODDAM NERF! ITS A FIX!!!! WEVE WANTED THIS SINCE THE GODDAM CURB STARTED!!! HELL SINCE F@CKING BETA!!!!!



Speak for yourself, imho, for us to be anywhere near a 5 in crowd control, we need a root like concussion currently is AND a mez that breaks on damage.





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Knightcrest
Fri Jun 03, 2005 8:30 pm
#15






maxtheusher wrote:





Knightcrest wrote:



Another thing I am thinking... when they nerf Concussion shot... it is gonna make high end PvE a little more interesting. That CL damage modifier is gonna hurt now when we can't be as effective at keeping a CL92 target off us or our group mates. Nerf Herder Defenders will end up being a prereq for even more high end content

Message Edited by Knightcrest on 06-03-2005 10:14 PM






ITS NOT A GODDAM NERF! ITS A FIX!!!! WEVE WANTED THIS SINCE THE GODDAM CURB STARTED!!! HELL SINCE F@CKING BETA!!!!!




Sure thing... let the Katarn/N-K Necrosis/etcget on top of your groupmates and see who is left standing. Not gonna be able to hold anything at Bay, Stopping Shot won't hold long enough to keep the damage off. I am not talking about your basic content... talking about high end content. Smugglers chaining with Pistoleers is the most effective high end PvE group set up for crowd control that is in game now.



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lycanthropy
Fri Jun 03, 2005 8:30 pm
#16






lokidevil wrote:

So all we are just Faction seller's in their eyes? Great.


Did you throw pie at them when this was said?


Also ask them why they insist on trying to bend every smuggler over and make them ask "please sir can I have another".






ya know they did say slicing was really getting fixed, and so how does that mean we are just faction sellers in their eyes? and did you ignore the part about future revamp changes within several publishes? think alot of people are being selffish.


and don't give me that "we have been asking for these changes for a long time garbage" cause there are a good handful of other professions that are even more screwed up than we think we are,



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djlowballer
Fri Jun 03, 2005 8:30 pm
#17

the direction this game is going, i think i may be out. Ill give it till summers end. I dont want to be involved with jedi at all, but thats what im being driven towards. Im going to drinkt his off
Antonnio
Fri Jun 03, 2005 8:31 pm
#18

Don't get me wrong, I believe everyone deserves their revamps...

I am just in a bad mood today... now this. Though as a smuggler, I guess I should have been use
to it by now... how long have we been awaiting a revamp that has been promised to us? Bah, whatever...
I'll just have to see how this pans out.



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lokidevil
Fri Jun 03, 2005 8:32 pm
#19






maxtheusher wrote:





Knightcrest wrote:



Another thing I am thinking... when they nerf Concussion shot... it is gonna make high end PvE a little more interesting. That CL damage modifier is gonna hurt now when we can't be as effective at keeping a CL92 target off us or our group mates. Nerf Herder Defenders will end up being a prereq for even more high end content

Message Edited by Knightcrest on 06-03-2005 10:14 PM






ITS NOT A GODDAM NERF! ITS A FIX!!!! WEVE WANTED THIS SINCE THE GODDAM CURB STARTED!!! HELL SINCE F@CKING BETA!!!!!





Normally I would agree with you Max but their "fixing" the only skill that makes us viable ingame,


When they "fix" concussion shot, what the hell is going to be the point of having a smuggler in your group? Low blow? Panic shot? why bother they do nothing, Every other proffesion gets a snare so no point with resrticing shot. Overwhelming shot? yeah maybe if bleeds wheren't so watered down and the other states like blind didn't finish in 5 seconds.


Reckless shot? Our ONLY damaging shot and it puts us in a worse position then its worth.


"Fixing" concussion shot with out giving us anything else puts as at a 1 to CC 1 to Offence and 1 to Defence. We might as well be squad leaders with drugs and connections.





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maxtheusher
Fri Jun 03, 2005 8:35 pm
#20

we've been asking for Concussion shot to be turned to what it's damn description says it is since beta. why the sudden change in view now that the devs have said they will?

scared jedi will be able to hit you now that you can't root them for 30 goddam seconds? talk about f$cking gamebreaking...

I don't use concussion in pvp cuz it's bullsh{t. I'm glad they're fixing it. damn.



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lokidevil
Fri Jun 03, 2005 8:40 pm
#21






lycanthropy wrote:





lokidevil wrote:

So all we are just Faction seller's in their eyes? Great.


Did you throw pie at them when this was said?


Also ask them why they insist on trying to bend every smuggler over and make them ask "please sir can I have another".






ya know they did say slicing was really getting fixed, and so how does that mean we are just faction sellers in their eyes? and did you ignore the part about future revamp changes within several publishes? think alot of people are being selffish.


and don't give me that "we have been asking for these changes for a long time garbage" cause there are a good handful of other professions that are even more screwed up than we think we are,





I wouldnt expect to see slicing fixed for at least 1.5-2 months at the current rate of progress esp. if they think it will be 2 patches away. BUT I would expect to see concussion shot "fixed" in the next few weeks as the devs nerf rather then change.


I admire your optimisum with your "part about future revamp changes within several publishes" but to me that just means "you will get drib's and drabs when we can, smuggler will be fixed over a 1 year process".


I agree CH,SL, Commando and Ranger all need fixing to but WE we're PROMISED a revamp a long long time ago and to cancel it is a spit in the face.


Your optimisitc and thats fine but some of us have been here a long time and know how the dev's work and can read inbetween the lines......




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Knightcrest
Fri Jun 03, 2005 8:40 pm
#22






maxtheusher wrote:
we've been asking for Concussion shot to be turned to what it's damn description says it is since beta. why the sudden change in view now that the devs have said they will?

scared jedi will be able to hit you now that you can't root them for 30 goddam seconds? talk about f$cking gamebreaking...

I don't use concussion in pvp cuz it's bullsh{t. I'm glad they're fixing it. damn.





The game isn't just PvP... I could give a damn about rooting a jedi. Haven't died to one yet post-CU... tactics are all that is needed. PvE is where this will hurt in a bad way and mainly just because of the CL dmg modifier. I'm glad they are fixing it as well, but it is a premature fix when other global changes need to be made first to avoid the lack of the root making some content less doable.



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lokidevil
Fri Jun 03, 2005 8:42 pm
#23






maxtheusher wrote:
we've been asking for Concussion shot to be turned to what it's damn description says it is since beta. why the sudden change in view now that the devs have said they will?

scared jedi will be able to hit you now that you can't root them for 30 goddam seconds? talk about f$cking gamebreaking...

I don't use concussion in pvp cuz it's bullsh{t. I'm glad they're fixing it. damn.





Max what other smuggler only shots do you use?


I'm not against them "fixing" it, I'm against them fixing it when its the only thing we have going for us. I know it's overpowered but its all we have!


If they want to fix it they should fix all our skills so we are viable instead of "nerfing" all our combat abilites.





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Thomen
Fri Jun 03, 2005 10:00 pm
#24


Found this on the Jedi Board in a post about the FF


___________________________________________________

smuggler revamp

now that the combat revamp is implemented, they are going to do a series of revamps starting with smuggler, ranger and squadleader in that order. smugglers are going to get a "mini game" to replace slicing and possibly quests...

_________________________________________________________________________




Well.. i hope this time its a better and more USEFULL "mini game". The uhm..last and ,if i remember correctly, first one we got was kinda pointless and a wasteof time and resources.



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HOTDOG
Fri Jun 03, 2005 10:15 pm
#25

The news is hitting me neither here nor there as it sounds similar to other things I've read but not on point.


That said-


IF they fix Concussion to be a mez- (meaning the target will not be allowed to do anything for 30 seconds or until damage) That would be alright I guess. The only real negative difference it makes is a melee person will have a chance to catch up to you...a slim chance 'cause you could always mez and get the hell out of there.


OR you could mez- calmly pull out your droid bomb. Blow it up. rinse and repeat.


No biggie really.



I AM concerned as to how well worked out the Smuggling Mini game is- I have waited a year + for this and I don't wanna see it F'd up.



GIVE ME MY DAMN PC BHs NOW THEN!!!!








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Ternque01
Fri Jun 03, 2005 10:28 pm
#26






Knightcrest wrote:





GanymedePharuu wrote:

Joras, tomorrow find a volunteer.


tell the devs to watch closely.


take a pellet gun and shoot your volunteer in the nards.then ask why lowblow is no longer a KD.



hope you're having fun!







haha....


Wolfman has nards! Sorry flash back from a movie in the 80's.








Lost Boys? Oh, and this news sUxx0rz. They need to make Panic Shot worth a damn and make Low Blow a KD if Conc Shot is getting n3rf3d.



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