Smuggler Archive
Thread: Is this indeed the Feast of Electricnomad?
Ternque01 wrote:I must also be honest. Allowing these components to be obtained by anybody does homogenize the smuggler experience.
If these upper level slicing components are added as reward for smuggling missions, then you will see the power that the loot-drop system gives away return to our profession.
QFE!
Ternque01 wrote:
I must also be honest. Allowing these components to be obtained by anybody does homogenize the smuggler experience.
If these upper level slicing components are added as reward for smuggling missions, then you will see the power that the loot-drop system gives away return to our profession.
Ok, we're definitely on the same page. 
Given the brief timetable on the slicing change, I'm all for rolling out the Tier-1 and Tier-2 slices, but let's save the *good* stuff till Smugglers start smugglin'!
-Zz
I don't see how we can stand up and demand anything at this point, given that we've already been there, done that and seen nothing for our troubles.
The only meaningful protest a player has is the Unsubscribe button. And I keep mine handy.
-Zz
GanymedePharuu wrote:
i agree.
thanks for reminding me...
This revamp needs PIE and BEER.
Bzzzz wrote:I don't see how we can stand up and demand anything at this point, given that we've already been there, done that and seen nothing for our troubles.
The only meaningful protest a player has is the Unsubscribe button. And I keep mine handy.
-Zz
With all due respect, I think you are wrong. Look at the Jedi, they keep complaining and get things done. I would argue this is likely the only time when our voices would be heard, since they are actually working on our profession. It was easier for them to ignore us before since they weren't working on our profession and could easily dismiss our concerns with a simple, thanks for commenting, we'll take that into consideration when we get around to it.
No, they have an actual system about to go live, now is precisely the time we need to stand up and make a stand. While we might not have had the right to demand the devs revamp us in the past, we certainly have a right to demand the actual revamp they are about to put to us adresses our concerns. We have their focus and, for the moment, their coders now is the time or never, I think. If you want to take it lying down, I can respect it, but don't think it don't matter. It does. If you care about smuggler, take a stand? What will you lose by one more time simply saying this isn't wrong, please do it this way? All you have to do is make a post, don't cost anything to make a stand...it's as easy as your last post was.
Try it, you'll like it, even if it fails, at least you will have the satisfaction of knowing you tried and you didn't go down without a fight.
Call it your Last Ditch attack on the revamp.
OT:
Well said.
/bow
Message Edited by Thomen on 06-24-2005 12:12 PM
I disagree.
Is the original post just a big whine?
We have no documented proof that someone with slicing 4 can slice just as well as a Master Smuggler.
How does camping the DWB have to do with being a smuggler? Risk vs Reward. It is the very essence and lifeblood of our profession. It is a risk to go down there. Sure, item breakage was also a risk, but getting components from DANGEROUS NPC's or creatures is also a risk, and in my book, that risk is every bit as valid as the risk of item breakage.
Have you considered that these slicing components will be rewards from our future smuggling missions?
We are getting Concussion Shot turned into a more useful special. We are getting Panic Shot and Overwhelming Shot fixed and changed. We have a slicing system that is MORE indepth, even if you don't like the whole loot-drop thing.
Sure this community is great, but I honestly value our ability to understand and deal with our limitations. I wanted the slicing minigame. I LOVE item breakage, but you know what? Crap changes.
Do what you feel. Quit if you feel the need. I think that there are a few things to bediscouraged about, but nothing to get upset about.
Message Edited by Ternque01 on 06-24-2005 02:14 PM
canI whine for beer and pie instead??
/glance clock
hey.... almost beer-o'clock here!
Ternque01 wrote:
We have no documented proof that someone with slicing 4 can slice just as well as a Master Smuggler.
Have you considered that these slicing components will be rewards from our future smuggling missions?
How does camping the DWB have to do with being a smuggler? Risk vs Reward. It is the very essence and lifeblood of our profession. It is a risk to go down there. Sure, item breakage was also a risk, but getting components from DANGEROUS NPC's or creatures is also a risk, and in my book, that risk is every bit as valid as the risk of item breakage.
Thomen wrote:
Have you considered that these slicing components will be NOT rewards from our future smuggling mission?
And camping the DWB, Avatar of whatever spot is not realy Risk vs Reward. Risk is when i cant use my stuff anymore because of the modification were made. Either thru contraband scan or jamming. DWB and such just raises the price on the used components, but not the risk for using the sliced item.
Ternque01 wrote:
I disagree.
Is the original post just a big whine?
We have no documented proof that someone with slicing 4 can slice just as well as a Master Smuggler.
How does camping the DWB have to do with being a smuggler? Risk vs Reward. It is the very essence and lifeblood of our profession. It is a risk to go down there. Sure, item breakage was also a risk, but getting components from DANGEROUS NPC's or creatures is also a risk, and in my book, that risk is every bit as valid as the risk of item breakage.
Have you considered that these slicing components will be rewards from our future smuggling missions?
We are getting Concussion Shot turned into a more useful special. We are getting Panic Shot and Overwhelming Shot fixed and changed. We have a slicing system that is MORE indepth, even if you don't like the whole loot-drop thing.
Sure this community is great, but I honestly value our ability to understand and deal with our limitations. I wanted the slicing minigame. I LOVE item breakage, but you know what? Crap changes.
Do what you feel. Quit if you feel the need. I think that there are a few things to bediscouraged about, but nothing to get upset about.
Message Edited by Ternque01 on 06-24-2005 02:14 PM
i'm sorry Axob, i have to disagree on the "Risk Vs. Reward" point.
this is NOT the type of Risk vs. Reward we should be getting.
we're talking about illegal items here. a sliced weapon is contraband. it should be risky to even carry it, let alone equip it and use it!
the risk in "Plan B" is on the wrong end of the slicing system!
it needs to have the risk on the SLICED ITEM. not the obtaining of a good slice (unless you're talking about the meeting to have your weapons sliced being busted up by Stormtroopers).
obtaining loot from dangerous areas does NOT cut it as a Risk in a slicing system.
Message Edited by GanymedePharuu on 06-24-2005 12:23 PM
Ternque01 wrote:
Thomen wrote:
Have you considered that these slicing components will be NOT rewards from our future smuggling mission?
And camping the DWB, Avatar of whatever spot is not realy Risk vs Reward. Risk is when i cant use my stuff anymore because of the modification were made. Either thru contraband scan or jamming. DWB and such just raises the price on the used components, but not the risk for using the sliced item.
Maybe I should throw your ass down into the DWB, and perhaps through the screams you can tell me it isn't a risk.
Yea.. maybe you can move your assfrom your high horse and diewith me? i was in theDWBwith a full group and we died within minutes.