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Thread: I AM NOT HAN SOLO, NOR ARE YOU
(Let you all sort that one out)... I would like to wield iconic SW weapons at a high level. I'm not upset with the XT being master pistoleer as I fully intend on staying master pistoleer - But we need to see more of the guns from the films in the game. Period.The one that really chews my a$$ is the Republic Blaster - The model in-game is supposed to be hand-crafted specifically for the Queen of Naboo and her Handmaidens _only_. Should've used the "Acsention Gun" model (without the grappling hooks, obviously as those were modifications made by Panaka).
fishbrains wrote:
There seems to be a resurgance in the smuggler forum of some of us trying to pidgenhole ourselves into Solo clones. This needs to stop. What fun is there is hundreds of folks trying to force their craracters to be someone who in the grand scheme of things was not really a highly successfull smuggler (credit wise, I mean he made alot but could never keep it). Hell, Karrde was 10x the smuggler Han was. Yes, Han had style, and was quite the bad ass and was obviously the best thing about the original trilogy. However, he was not the end all be all smuggler for SWG. Create your own identity, have diffrent smuggler heros. FOr instance the character I base my smuggler of of is not even a SW character. It's Morgan Freeman's character in the Shawshank Redemption. The guy who can get you things. So stop trying to make us all solo. As a wise fellow on this very forum recently said.....
BE YOUR OWN SMUGGLER
And I will thank you not to tellus whatwe can do or not do in the game.
Han may be only one Smuggler in the movies, but he is a very promanent one. It is only natural for peeps to use him as a model of a Smuggler.
Some players have always wanted to be like him. W T Fdo you think it is any ofyour business if they think it is fun or not for them to emulate him.
So you dont think much of him and want to be different.
Goood....For....you.
That doesnt give you any right to tell others on whether or notto admire and try to emulate him.
Ramsey_Lanclo wrote:
The one that really chews my a$$ is the Republic Blaster - The model in-game is supposed to be hand-crafted specifically for the Queen of Naboo and her Handmaidens _only_. Should've used the "Acsention Gun" model (without the grappling hooks, obviously as those were modifications made by Panaka).
But you covered the main issue. woot.
yimaz wrote:You guys remember the "what smuggler do you most admire" thread??.... (somthing like that, Im to lazy to find it)Remember the Smuggler I said was the coolest?Joras Kal'lanDamn I'm good....
damn bro, yer gonna make my head swell.
/kowtow
fishbrains wrote:
yimaz wrote:
You guys remember the "what smuggler do you most admire" thread??.... (somthing like that, Im to lazy to find it)
Remember the Smuggler I said was the coolest?
Joras Kal'lan
Damn I'm good....
damn bro, yer gonna make my head swell.
fishbrains wrote:
There seems to be a resurgance in the smuggler forum of some of us trying to pidgenhole ourselves into Solo clones. This needs to stop. What fun is there is hundreds of folks trying to force their craracters to be someone who in the grand scheme of things was not really a highly successfull smuggler (credit wise, I mean he made alot but could never keep it). Hell, Karrde was 10x the smuggler Han was. Yes, Han had style, and was quite the bad ass and was obviously the best thing about the original trilogy. However, he was not the end all be all smuggler for SWG. Create your own identity, have diffrent smuggler heros. FOr instance the character I base my smuggler of of is not even a SW character. It's Morgan Freeman's character in the Shawshank Redemption. The guy who can get you things. So stop trying to make us all solo. As a wise fellow on this very forum recently said.....
BE YOUR OWN SMUGGLER
Ok, I'm sorry this is going to come out like a flame but here goes. This "Be your own smuggler" movement and response to things is hypocritical bullcrap. So we are supposed to be our own smuggler by doing what you tell us to do (or not doing what you tell us not to)? Ok, sure, I'll get right on that. People using this arguementagainst others wanting things that Han just so happened to have is one of the pansiest things I've ever heard. Let's take the thread "Wes, please help us get our gun back!" as an example, since this has become the "I can't come up with a good counter point and want to post" response everyone seems to be using there now. Myself and others have posted how the DL-44, while popularized in the movies and such by Han, was actually documented to be a fairly popular pistol in the underworld. We have posted this as the reason that we believe smugglers should be able to use the weapon. What do we get as a response? "Don't be a Han clone, Be your own smuggler". Ok, so as I said above, I'm supposed to be my own Smuggler and not pursue something I want by listening to you? Are you a human male smuggler?Oh, I'm sorry you must be a Han clone. "Be your own smuggler". Are you a smuggler that has done Jabba's themepark? You don't have to work for Jabba you know. Oh, I'm sorry you must be a Han clone. "Be your own smuggler". Are you people getting the picture yet of how stupid this cattle mentality that has developed is?
To add more logic to disrupt your reasoning, yes Han was not a "successful smuggler" in many ways. But how can you prove that he wasn't representative of smuggler's as a group? By this I mean if you were involved in activities that might be considered illegal, wouldn't you want a gun that provided one heck of a punch for those armored goons/troopers that you might encounter during your various activities? Sounds like you would want a heavy blaster pistol for this. Oh wait, what is the most documented well known heavy blaster pistol, one that you can depend on when it counts? Hm... I've heard the Blastech DL-44 is the standard, might be good to find one of those. There you have it, all the reason a smuggler needs to want a DL-44. Why Han probably got a DL-44 in fact. Could have been a factor. Does it mean we want it to be like Han? Nope, not at all. Smuggler's needed a powerful gun to survive, the gun with the reputation was the DL-44, that's good enough for my character. My character in game is much different than Han when it comes to backstory and personality. I refuse to ship spice and if I had to define my character by another known character, I would probably define him as a smuggler along thelines of Mirax Terrik. I obtain rare objects(which just so happen to be illegal under Imperial Law) and"find/obtain things"other need thingsfor people.the only things that are close are the DL-44 that I carry and that I have a YT-1300. They YT I only have since I wanted a multiplayer ship and that's what you get with Master Pilot. In reality though, I only went Neutral Pilot because I wanted the non-factioned ships for my character (so they can be more of a personal ship), getting the YT was just how it ended up. But wait I've been doing it all wrong.Since I havea YT and like DL-44s, I must be a Han clone. "Be your own smuggler". At least according to the current "Smuggler Bandwagon" I'm just a clone.
I'm sorry for the rant, but I find the whole situation very hypocritical. Be my own smuggler by listening to what you tell me not to do, ha. There are reasons for people wanting things that Han had other than "being a Han clone". I'm sorry that some peoplejust can't understand that and choose to dismiss it that way. Finally, this rant was not directed at fishbrains exclusively (he's been a strong part of the community for quite a while and I respect that), he just putthe target on himself by making this thread.
Even if you're only a smuggler because Han Solo was that dirty of a dude, I'm not going to think any less of you for it: you're still a smuggler, going through the same things we're going through, coming from the same place.
But it's when a debate or line of thought gets too Han-centric that things get problematic. As smugglers, we're about as diverse a group as there is, and to argue for something based solely on the actions and appearance of the movies' most charismatic smuggler is a dangerous practice. We don't want to start limiting ourselves to a single role model.. great as he may be.
That's the heart of what Fish and others are getting at, I think. I don't think they're trying to enforce a "Be an individual by doing exactly what I say" mentality.