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Thread: How are we doing on getting player BHs on us?

dlc3007
Tue May 10, 2005 6:56 am
#14

To be honest, many (most?) of the BHs are just like the Jedi they hunt: Big whiney, mopey, crying babies. Personally, I want nothing to do with them. period.


Remember what the Jedi abuse and the BH complaints did for our FD skill? Any guesses what the same abuse and complaints will do to it again?


I know that there are decent human beings that play both Jedi and BH -- they're just hard to find. As for the rest of them, let them go play their little games by themselves. In fact, just put them all on one planet and let them stay there. Leave the smugglers out of it.





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JaxonLuxor
Tue May 10, 2005 10:01 am
#15

Being a long time MBH and now a Master Smuggler as well, I would like to comment on a couple of things. Truthfully, I think the seething hatred relationship between the Jedi and the Bounty Hunters is working just as intended. Now definitely you have some @sshats on either side of the conflict that take it too far but there is suppose to be that friction. I feel a Smuggler bounty system would actually be a little less intense. First, I don't believe there would be gank squads. Most Bounty Hunters don't want to group. It's a solitary profession. For myself, I have played this game 98% solo. The gank squads are around b/c very few (if any) Bounty Hunters can take a Knight solo. Since Knight bounties are the pinnacle of the player bounty system, most want to be involved in claiming one. While Smugglers can handle themselves, a well prepared and balanced Bounty Hunter will not need a squad to collect a bounty on one.


The player bounty system should be about respect. Now we all know that somein the player bases do not feel that way but hopefully those are a very small exception. Very few of us (or the Jedi) talk about the honorable hunts that we have had. About the congratulatory tells sent from the floor of a cloner room. I have personally eliminated 25 Jedi and been slaughtered many more times. I can think of a couple that talked crap and, unfortunately, it is human nature that those stick in my mind.



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Golrok
Tue May 10, 2005 10:48 am
#16

I agree. There will always be 1337speek idiots but I dont feel that theyout number mature players. You just close your chat window and not give 1337speekidiots what they want- a typed response- you just forget about them. They do not outnumber mature minded players though, IMO. idk i've played alot of pvp games shooters and stuff so i've just developed a higher tolerance for idiots but it took some time and instancesfor it to develope.


Before CURB the only socializing that I ever seem to couldengage in was after PVP because players were in the mood to socialize after fighting, no matter who won. It was strange but almost 90% garunteed to happen for me after a fight. So if I ever felt like having a friendlychat I would go soloovert as a reb and just linger on the outskirts of bestine. It was total oppositein most instancesthan being spammed 1337ly by some idiot. The only hate tells I really got was from ppl who were pist because they werent Dr.buffed but I never was either, and then we ended up socializing anyway. I just wanted raw 1 on 1 fights.

Aanu
Tue May 10, 2005 10:57 am
#17

man, you guys rock. /deepbow



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Silvarran
Tue May 10, 2005 11:48 am
#18

Dont see this happening. As much garbage as the Jedi/BH thing has produced and continues to produce it would be just an awful headache for them to add Smugglers to it. Many say they want this to happen but as soon as it does the complaining will begin and it gets down right nasty at times. The BH's are already complaining about the new FD being used by jedi and would do so with smugglers as well. Anything that would help a smuggler to either win or avoid a BH would be attacked and nerfed if the BH community (the immature part not the entire community) had their way.


Until/Unless some maturity enters the SWG community it would be awful to have this happen. The jedi/BH is bad enough and pages and pages fill both their forums with garbage over it and it would be the same here, sad to say.





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Makkaio
Tue May 10, 2005 11:53 am
#19

According to the sticky posted at the top of the forum, they are looking into ways to implement smuggler bounties on those smugglers who wish to be hunted. They will possibly do this by creating two types of smuggler missions. Regular missions and critical missions. The critical missions will have higher rewards with higher stakes, the higher stakes might be that you get hunted by a player bounty hunter.



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MISTagent01
Tue May 10, 2005 11:57 am
#20

Give this one some time....



I have a feeling that once they get the new Smuggler system set up and running smoothly, they'll look into PC Bounties a lot closer.





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Nezodon
Tue May 10, 2005 1:38 pm
#21






Makkaio wrote:

According to the sticky posted at the top of the forum, they are looking into ways to implement smuggler bounties on those smugglers who wish to be hunted. They will possibly do this by creating two types of smuggler missions. Regular missions and critical missions. The critical missions will have higher rewards with higher stakes, the higher stakes might be that you get hunted by a player bounty hunter.






That would be my problem this would penalise smugglers who want nothing to do with the mess and hate which is created by the bounty system which exists with jedi and BH.

If a system to hunt smuggler's is implemented it should be a choice of whether i want to be hunted rather than if i dont take the critical mission i will be unable to keep up with the smugglers who want to be.


If smugglers want to be hunted then thats fine their reward is the excitement of being hunted by a pc though i dont think the pve player should be penalised because of their game style choice.


Im all for making missions which are critical and will call a higher level BH to attack you though i dont think a pc BH should be sent out unless the smuggler wants it to, the choice shouldnt be between a better reward and being hunted or a poor reward and only attracting npc BH's.


My fear is that with the maturity which i read on the BH and jedi forums i would rather not get tied into it personaly though i accept other are wanting to get involved in it and thats fine but i dont want to be left out in the cold because i only do the lower missions because i choose not to be involved in the hate system which it encourages.


To just finish up the more i think about it the more i dont like the idea of smuggler bounties i believe some one has already mentioned it feign death is a smuggler move and has saved my neck many times likewise has last ditch all i can see by making us a pvp class is both of these being nerf'ed to useless due to the whining which we see between the jedi and BH community.


I think its sad that rather than concentrating on getting smuggling missions in game we are focused on failing them and being hunted at the moment we dont have missions prehaps these should come before this is decided, im more interested in having cool missions to do than BH's hunting me i think these are seperate issues it seems like this thread is more focused on the content it provides the BH's rather than what it provides us.



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Ryan101a
Tue May 10, 2005 4:54 pm
#22

Getting on the terms would be realy nice if we could do stuff like Rob banks ie slice the bank terms and Rob Vendors. The vendors would be compencsted by insurance companys. Were the items taken buy this method would be marked as stolen and taken if the stormies or other officals scan you and nonsellable on a vendor to prevent abuse of the skills . If you think about it we are criminals there should be warrents out for us or at least bounties. As for worring about a bh huntiong me that would be cool as I am also a mbh. Gank squads would not come for a smuggler as we would be very low on the terms as far as payment in comparison to the jedi. As a bh i enjoy the hunt more than the kill but the combo of the two is great I realy want to know whatits like
From the other side of the ball and there are a few BH's i know who would love to hunt me down. Finaly to the people who would cry about the idea of us getting on the terms dont do the nasty things we would have to do to get on the terms. The jedi have the same rules dont show off in public we would have to not do what it take to get on the terms to avoid the PVP. Lets get some non GCW content into the game.


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Vaddo
Tue May 10, 2005 7:12 pm
#23

*puts on Troll Haloween Costume*

so if im BH/smuggler can i hunt myself? lol

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DoMakk
Tue May 10, 2005 8:52 pm
#24

You know, it would depend on the BH. Most of the ones I know are *tres* sexy, so...


Oh...you mean getting on...*that* way...


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CapnKate
Tue May 10, 2005 9:02 pm
#25

I, on another note, also would not like to see the sort of mess that goes on on the BH and Jedi boards ending up here. Because you KNOW it would happen, especially since our specials (like FD and LD), are already favorite toys of Jedi/BH abusers. How fast do you suppose we'd end up nerfed if we were using them to run away from BHs? (because let's face it, Smugglers are about getting away, not winning a fight. Any one you can walk away from...)



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Nezodon
Wed May 11, 2005 3:57 am
#26






CapnKate wrote:
I, on another note, also would not like to see the sort of mess that goes on on the BH and Jedi boards ending up here. Because you KNOW it would happen, especially since our specials (like FD and LD), are already favorite toys of Jedi/BH abusers. How fast do you suppose we'd end up nerfed if we were using them to run away from BHs? (because let's face it, Smugglers are about getting away, not winning a fight. Any one you can walk away from...)





A very good point, the more i think about it the less i like the idea of pc bounties going after smuggler all i can see happening is having our skills nerf'ed and dealing with the hate system which is incorporated into the jedi/BH system as it exists today.


I want to be a smuggler that doesnt mean pvp or fighting it is the opposite its about avoiding the fight its about getting your job done and getting out of their of course fighting may happen if i get scanned and attacked though a fight to the death i would like to see become a last resort if escape is impossible.


In all honesty we have nothing to gain with apc BH system and everything to loss just look at all the changes which keeps getting made to the jedi profession im surprised their heads arnt exploding.


And just to add im sick of this subject WE DONT HAVE MISSIONS YET!!!!!!!


We need to work on getting smuggling missions so we can actualy smuggle before we think of thewhat happens if we fail, i think we have too many BH coming here fed up of fighting jedi and looking for easier prey, i dont care about giving you BH extra missions right now i just want to be able to smuggle and at the moment im not able to do this.


Comeall you realsmuggler's lets let this subject lie till we actualy have missions because at the moment were putting the cart before the horse and as long as we do this we are just slowing down the process of getting missions and giving us guys something to do





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