Smuggler Archive
Thread: Interesting TKA post relating to Concussion Shot nerf
Tasomo
Tue Jun 14, 2005 11:30 am
#15
I'd say that odds are
A) Sas never HAD a smuggler
B) Sas is a very unhappy Jedi who has been killed because he can't PvP
C) Sas is in the 9th-10th grade
D) Sas talks like that in the real world and uses "pwnd" in actual conversations
Cendatinea
Tue Jun 14, 2005 11:53 am
#16
Tasomo wrote:
I'd say that odds are
A) Sas never HAD a smuggler
B) Sas is a very unhappy Jedi who has been killed because he can't PvP
C) Sas is in the 9th-10th grade
D) Sas talks like that in the real world and uses "pwnd" in actual conversations
E) all of the above
Cooter_Scylla
Tue Jun 14, 2005 9:57 pm
#17
Knowing how the developers usually take the easiest bandaid fix available to "fix" things, why don't they do that here? Just change the description on concussionshot (changing text, ooooh... tricky...)and leave smugglers with a useful tool... wishful thinking though, heh.
Taln2
Tue Jun 14, 2005 11:13 pm
#18
ApollyonTB wrote:
AngusMacGregor wrote:
If they make roots break on damage, they may as well just take them out of the game because they'd be useless then.
they are just go0nna have to sit back, and .....keep the "adds" off everyone....fun ...bleh I dont think so
Um, bro, that's exactly what crowd control is. Keeping adds off of groupmates by mesmerizing them at range. Of course it won't work very well in SWG given all the problems with LOS and warping mobs but, hey, one thing at a time.
One thing I do disagree with the devs on is roots breaking on damage. Root is a form of offensive CC that counters the 'run and gun' type characters. Root should not break on damage, but it should be subject to diminishing returns and really shouldn't last more than 20 seconds.
Also, in order for smuggler to be a true 5 in crowd control (and in probability in order for CC to work in SWG), we need our own root in addition to the mesmerize.
AngusMacGregor
Wed Jun 15, 2005 12:13 am
#19
Yep, you can count on the wonderful folks here in the Smuggler Forum to point out when you're completely wrong, a complete tool, or both! 
I feel so at home here.
Dariane_Kamutsovy
Wed Jun 15, 2005 2:40 am
#20
Akiram_Glockem wrote:
sas-quatch wrote:
AngusMacGregor wrote:
If they make roots break on damage, they may as well just take them out of the game because they'd be useless then.
dude get your head out of your arse. IMO aa root is a getaway move. BECAUSE IT IS SUPPOSED TO BREAK ON DMG AFTERWARD!!!!
root is not something for the I WIN button. i left smuggler because its not working right. ROOT is for a get away....something to buy you time for a heal...or a run...or a set up for another shot. not to immobilize for a pounding.
I beg to differ
My PoV:
1. Root shot should be a time-based effect: effectively being rooted... Yes, melee PVP wil be hindered, but Melee profs can take out a gun too.... It's not the I-win situation. IT might become one when being "ganked" by root after root (unable to escape). That's needs tweaking (ie... 40s rooted... next 30s root willl not be effective or something similar).
2. A Smuggler's role is CROWD control... Sure ROOT shot does it. However, Smuggler shot is called: CONCUSSION shot. This is a mez: it also stops a person. However. In this case, the time someone is affected by this may be longer (40s...1m) and it WILL break on the target getting damage. However, after concussion breaks OR it times out, another concussion IS possible.
GanymedePharuu
Wed Jun 15, 2005 3:50 am
#21
sas-quatch wrote:
AngusMacGregor wrote:
If they make roots break on damage, they may as well just take them out of the game because they'd be useless then.
dude get your head out of your arse. IMO aa root is a getaway move. BECAUSE IT IS SUPPOSED TO BREAK ON DMG AFTERWARD!!!!
root is not something for the I WIN button. i left smuggler because its not working right. ROOT is for a get away....something to buy you time for a heal...or a run...or a set up for another shot. not to immobilize for a pounding. when i realized this i gave up smuggler because i felt that concussionshot(which lasts 40 secs as it sits now) is not fair to use in pvp which i am still learning the ropes to.
i gave up something i enjoyed to be fair on others.......man if more ppl would think like thins...SWG could be saved.MEH like that would happen.
CONCUSSIONSHOT will be nerfed
thats all there is to it because ITS BROKE ANYHOW!!!!!
if you dont know this you dont belong being a smuggler
or a pistoller
or anything that has a root
damn powergaming crybabies who dont know how to use thier brians for tatics and survival.
and dont even think about flaming me
i am in an active guild war,,,,and have yet to be killed in the raoming i do because i am not predictable. yes i have my hangouts but i never take the same route twice.ask andone in IEF on wanderhome how often im found traveling around.
root=i win at the moment...and i refuse to be an exploiter.
damn powergameing crybabies. GO PLAY A NON_MMO AND BE UBER ALL YOUR OWN CUZ YOU CANT DO IT HERE WWWAAAHHHH
biznatches
hahahahahaha.
wow you're so honorable and unpredictable. we should all play the game like you! /worship /worship.
thank you so very much for honoring us with your presence among this forum oh venerable one!
go away. you obviously suck at life...
and take your sticks and hammers with you.
maxtheusher
Wed Jun 15, 2005 5:27 am
#22
ApollyonTB wrote:
AngusMacGregor wrote:
If they make roots break on damage, they may as well just take them out of the game because they'd be useless then.
and drop the smugglers #5 in "mezzing" to a 2. IN all honesty....what lvl 76-82 target can be killed in less than 40 seconds? Think about this as well. Th smuggler is going to have to turn off auto-attack. He roots something, and about a second later...he fires off another round breaking the root.
they are just go0nna have to sit back, and .....keep the "adds" off everyone....fun ...bleh I dont think so
Meleers that complain....dont attack someone that has a gun with a knife.... dont like it...then dont do it.but the devs want everything "balanced" so bad that they will nerf Concussion shot and LD...2 + 2 = 4 everytime
You use Auto-attack? PFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFT.
n000000000000b 
Datink_Nieleft
Wed Jun 15, 2005 6:58 am
#24
sas-quatch wrote:
AngusMacGregor wrote:
If they make roots break on damage, they may as well just take them out of the game because they'd be useless then.
dude get your head out of your arse. IMO aa root is a getaway move. BECAUSE IT IS SUPPOSED TO BREAK ON DMG AFTERWARD!!!!
root is not something for the I WIN button. i left smuggler because its not working right. ROOT is for a get away....something to buy you time for a heal...or a run...or a set up for another shot. not to immobilize for a pounding. when i realized this i gave up smuggler because i felt that concussionshot(which lasts 40 secs as it sits now) is not fair to use in pvp which i am still learning the ropes to.
i gave up something i enjoyed to be fair on others.......man if more ppl would think like thins...SWG could be saved.MEH like that would happen.
CONCUSSIONSHOT will be nerfed
thats all there is to it because ITS BROKE ANYHOW!!!!!
if you dont know this you dont belong being a smuggler
or a pistoller
or anything that has a root
damn powergaming crybabies who dont know how to use thier brians for tatics and survival.
and dont even think about flaming me
i am in an active guild war,,,,and have yet to be killed in the raoming i do because i am not predictable. yes i have my hangouts but i never take the same route twice.ask andone in IEF on wanderhome how often im found traveling around.
root=i win at the moment...and i refuse to be an exploiter.
damn powergameing crybabies. GO PLAY A NON_MMO AND BE UBER ALL YOUR OWN CUZ YOU CANT DO IT HERE WWWAAAHHHH
biznatches
*shakes head*
Why is it that the Smuggler forum has attracted the circus as of late?
All these dang clowns with their big floppy feet leaving poodoo tracks everywhere. And,...does anyone use "biznatches" anymore?
All these dang clowns with their big floppy feet leaving poodoo tracks everywhere. And,...does anyone use "biznatches" anymore?
I mean really, biznatch?
Nezodon
Wed Jun 15, 2005 7:01 am
#25
*shakes head*
Why is it that the Smuggler forum has attracted the circus as of late?
All these dang clowns with their big floppy feet leaving poodoo tracks everywhere. And,...does anyone use "biznatches" anymore?
I mean really, biznatch?
**hides juggling balls and giant floppy shoes**
Clown i dont see no clown.