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Thread: Do something for smuggler now, remove the Brawler pre-

Ace2
Mon Aug 16, 2004 11:54 am
#14

Or the fact that the pistoleer skills are useles by itself, you need master pistoleer to do any dmg with a pistol.





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Scoooter
Mon Aug 16, 2004 1:02 pm
#15



Business, while very useful if you run an actual vendor, makes no sense for other smugglers who don't want to nor don't need to have one.


EXACTLY.


Not everyone wants to play a smuggler as a legitimate business man


Now we are hybrid crafters yes. Now attempts have been made to justify the business line because of that. But answer me this. What other crafting profession requires the busijness line? NONE, NADA, ZERO, ZIP. Its a prereq for merchant.


A pre-Req is a requirement to define the profession. Crafters are not even required to have business. The intent is that even an AS can choos whether to take that or consign out to a merchant,


These are just blatant ways to try and grab skill points by convincing otheres that your way of augmenting smuggler is the way it should be for everyone





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Ace2
Mon Aug 16, 2004 1:21 pm
#16

And i tought smugglers would be happy to get some more SP, how wrong could i be.





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PhoenixOrion
Mon Aug 16, 2004 1:32 pm
#17





Ace2 wrote:

And i tought smugglers would be happy to get some more SP, how wrong could i be.





The majority of us smugglers would be happy to get our profession FIXED, not broken even more with the suggestion of removing unarmed tree for no particular reasons.


The plight the BH's in is totally different than ours. They didn't have enough defenses with the amount of skill points they had left.


We on the other hand can pretty much master TKA and other professions and have great defenses.


So like I said. You don't like the pre-req's of smuggler now? Drop smuggler.









Ace2 wrote:





NM what i said, i tought smugglers would like the idea of not wasting 29 SP on brawler, i know all the AS and WS that are smuggler hate the fact that they have to use a ****load of SP in order to slice their own things.


Have fun waiting on the smuggler revamp you been waiting for howlong?3-4 months? And it's stil no where in sight of happening anytime soon.


Message Edited by Ace2 on 08-16-2004 01:29 PM




ROFL! The plot thickens. So basically, it's the AS/WS smugglers who don't want to "waste" the skill points to get unarmed. I assume you are one of those few and far between's...


I got news for you. Smuggler wasn't made for WS and AS just to slice their own things. It was made so people had to come to US to get their stuff sliced. We are the middlemen for a reason.


This thread has now turned into pure idiocy.


My stance on "if you don't like it, drop smuggler" still stands.


Deal with it, or drop smuggler.

Message Edited by PhoenixOrion on 08-16-2004 04:36 PM



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IndySWG
Mon Aug 16, 2004 1:36 pm
#18

actually I would like for them to remove this pre-req as well.


I dont care what the revamp brings my smuggler is not going to be melee ... there's far too much melee in this game... this is star wars not diablo.


Personally I wish they would change the pre-req to:


Marksman: Ranged 4

and

Any other Marksman tree


This wouldsave us only 15 points not 29, but it would let the smuggler specalize in the ranged weapon of his choice.





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Ace2
Mon Aug 16, 2004 1:37 pm
#19

You gonna keep whining about the "if you dont like it drop smuggler", think up of something new already.





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PhoenixOrion
Mon Aug 16, 2004 1:39 pm
#20






Ace2 wrote:

You gonna keep whining about the "if you dont like it drop smuggler", think up of something new already.





Sure. When non-smugglers like yourself stop whining needlessly that Unarmed Pre-Req isn't required and makes no sense.


It makes sense to 95% of the smuggler population. Deal with it. Live with it. Or drop some of your AS/WS skills to Master Smuggler.





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Ace2
Mon Aug 16, 2004 1:40 pm
#21






IndySWG wrote:

actually I would like for them to remove this pre-req as well.


I dont care what the revamp brings my smuggler is not going to be melee ... there's far too much melee in this game... this is star wars not diablo.


Personally I wish they would change the pre-req to:


Marksman: Ranged 4

and

Any other Marksman tree


This wouldsave us only 15 points not 29, but it would let the smuggler specalize in the ranged weapon of his choice.








Great point, star wars was mainly about blaster fightsnottka's running arround. They would be dead as soon as they run on to the battlefield. Smugglers use blasters that's it, i never seen one running arround with a VK.





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Ace2
Mon Aug 16, 2004 1:42 pm
#22






PhoenixOrion wrote:





Ace2 wrote:

You gonna keep whining about the "if you dont like it drop smuggler", think up of something new already.





Sure. When non-smugglers like yourself stop whining needlessly that Unarmed Pre-Req isn't required and makes no sense.


It makes sense to 95% of the smuggler population. Deal with it. Live with it. Or drop some of your AS/WS skills to Master Smuggler.






You sure a lamer, i stand with what i said. Remove the unarmed pre-req from smuggler, you deal with it or drop smuggler.






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PhoenixOrion
Mon Aug 16, 2004 1:47 pm
#23






Ace2 wrote:

You sure a lamer, i stand with what i said. Remove the unarmed pre-req from smuggler, you deal with it or drop smuggler.








ROFL. So now that I've proven my point and proven your whines and gripes to be without merit, you are going to stoop to insults? Enjoy the moderator reportage.


Seriously. How hard would it be to find a smuggler to work with your AS/WS Character? You want to know how hard? Not hard at all.


If you'd stop trying to be a greedy, monopolistic fool, you'd understand the reasons for the pre-req's in this profession. To prevent the idiotic monopolies like a MAS/MWS that can slice his own goods.


SMUGGLERS ARE HERE FOR A REASON.




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Imperiai2
Mon Aug 16, 2004 1:50 pm
#24

<<Brawling makes sense because someone coming up in an underworld profession would in fact learn to protect themselves to a degree if caught without a weapon.>>


Again: There isNO situation in SWG when you are caught without a weapon.



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Ace2
Mon Aug 16, 2004 2:03 pm
#25

I just said you are a lamer because you come here and troll and call us whiners just to anoy us, go ahead report me, i will do the same, troll.





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Noukie
Mon Aug 16, 2004 2:07 pm
#26

Ignore that phoenix troll, he's to full of himself. If anyone get's banned it's him because he comes here and be an a** because he sees something he doesnt like, probebly a 5 year old loser that cries when something doesnt happen like he wants to.



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