Smuggler Archive

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Smuggler_Caylin wrote:

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fishbrains wrote:

Solo was one of the least exciting smugglers in the trilogy and EU. Lando and Karrde baby, that's what it's all about

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I never found the fascination for either personally.

Lando, the businessman. Never really did much for me. Once you know he is a businessman and a good sabacc player, he never surprised me.

Karrde was always in the information business and while his organization did do alot of smuggling, I personally have not found a book where I enjoyed him as an actual character. The depth was never there for me to enjoy.

Han Solo has a developed past, with a great deal of interaction. The family conflicts combined with the ones centered on his past gave him more for me to appreciate than most others.

/shrug

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Smuggler_Caylin wrote:

Yet even if they are outstanding in the next two books, that's just a trilogy out of the entire EU...

So the majority of the time they remain pretty damn dull.

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Smuggler_Caylin wrote:

Of course not.

These fancy clothes do.

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fishbrains wrote:

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Smuggler_Caylin wrote:

Yet even if they are outstanding in the next two books, that's just a trilogy out of the entire EU...

So the majority of the time they remain pretty damn dull.

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I disagree but I guess I'll still think yer allright. I'm not knocking Han or anything, I'm just saying there were IMO, LOTS of cool smugglers in the SWG universe. I mean personally TY-2400 > YT1300

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Ternque01 wrote:

I don't particularly like the EU very much.I could never feel very involved with any of the books (save for the Zhan guy's series).

The books have no dynamics at all because you knew that none of the main characters were ever in any real danger or risk from a matter of their perception - if they were you weren't really let in on the picture very well. It's hard to get into a book when you know right off the bat that the main slew of characters were all going to be there just as they were in the beginning with no real changes to themselves.

I could always count on Leia being the worrying, tired politician/mother. Han Solo = Mr. Smoothie. Luke = some dilapitated version of what a particular writter feels a Jedi Knight/Master should be.

Stale, boring, stagnant. Much like that one Star Trek series Deep Space Nine. Same crap... different wormhole.

I much prefer writting/films that have their own powerful flow and dynamicism. Characters that actually move in an interesting direction inside of themselves. Take the Cowboy Bebop series... all of the characters in that series had their own specialness and the way you percieved them. You could actually see the change in Faye Valentine over the series, especially after meeting Gren and figuring out her past. She went from being a disagreeable b*tch who didn't care about anyone but herself to being a person discovering that despite the fact that her past/roots were destroyed that she really does care for her comrades and that she is really saddened by the loss of Spike and Ed... I guess she discovers just how nice other people are to be around and a fire of comraderie is born in her. It is all developed in a way that you can actually see and enjoy the changes that happen in her.

Ed changed at the end. Finally you get to see what Spike is all about. As for Jet.... he is the kinda character that remains a stronghold of strength, wisdom, and securtiy all through the series - exactly the kinda guy who never really seems to change. This unchanging aspect of Jet's is poked fun at and developed. You can see special moments where he snaps in a interesting way, just to be the same damn guy who helps his friends.. despite how tired he is at incurring losses helping them. Jet also bores the living turds outta the rest of the crew with his deep (and stale) thinking patterns. He's the guy who always thinks ever move through... understands every situation (or so puts in the time to do so).

I can't say that much for the few EU books that I have read... same people... and despite how much I expect them to have a life of their own, they are always seeming as 2D representations... poster board standups of the people we saw in the movies... being carted on a conveyor belt into the next blackhole, secret experiment, or "threat" to the Republic. Sign me up for something else.

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fishbrains wrote:

Try the Rogue Squadron series. The thing I love about it the total focus on all new characters. It's really well done actually.

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Hmmm I might pick it up if I don't die first I could like a set of books that really digs its own ground

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xthejedix wrote:

...?

-Joruus C'boath

-Master Smuggler

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Well, there's an easy solution:there won't be any meaningful smuggler improvements warranting a population-increase until well after the rest of us have given up and moved on. Sometime after 2017, presuming the existing devs & servers haven't already been reallocated to EQ2-5.

-Zz