Smuggler Archive
Thread: New Post by TH ... CU nearly a year away.
Novock
Mon Dec 06, 2004 12:59 pm
#14
MISTagent01 wrote:
Well, a mini-publish is NOT 2 months, that's a full publish. The mini ones they're been doing are about 2-4 weeks apart.
So TH gave us a time window of 5-51 weeks.
/thumbsup
/rolleyes
Or its a real clever way to get people to constantly think its just around the corner when you know it really is like 6 or 7 months away. Be honest if they knew (which I have a hard time see how they could not) that it would be 7 or 8 months away do you think they would openly say that knowing a lot of people would cancel and not return for 6 or so months? This way you keep as many as you can paying each month having in their minds its a just a few weeks a way.
WildKarrd
Mon Dec 06, 2004 3:24 pm
#15
One thing this game I thought was getting better since JTL was information updates such as Whats on Deck, but since loot patch we have heard nothing. I mean even if it is a couple weeks down the line, an update on upcoming ideas and fixes would be awesome.
LaughingWolf
Mon Dec 06, 2004 3:25 pm
#16
good points, both maxtheusher and Phenix1050.
Basically, what I see from TH's post is that it is taking more time partly because of the whole feedback/change/feedback again cycle going on with the testers. Isn't that exactly what we want? I saw elsewhere some ask that this very process be done but with all the community. Mmm now that would be a good way to make sure CU is released in 3 years! I think with the sandbox teams as alpha testers they reached a nice compromise between either not giving us any weight at all in the process or relying on the community feedback so much they get paralized.
For the record, I am not a sandbox team member , altough I would have loved that. (can you picture a Bothan green from jealousy?
lol just kidding, not bitching, I was not even active on the boards when the choice was made.)
Basically, what I see from TH's post is that it is taking more time partly because of the whole feedback/change/feedback again cycle going on with the testers. Isn't that exactly what we want? I saw elsewhere some ask that this very process be done but with all the community. Mmm now that would be a good way to make sure CU is released in 3 years! I think with the sandbox teams as alpha testers they reached a nice compromise between either not giving us any weight at all in the process or relying on the community feedback so much they get paralized.
For the record, I am not a sandbox team member , altough I would have loved that. (can you picture a Bothan green from jealousy?
lol just kidding, not bitching, I was not even active on the boards when the choice was made.)Message Edited by LaughingWolf on 12-06-2004 05:28 PM
Flyinion
Mon Dec 06, 2004 3:26 pm
#17
maxtheusher wrote:
I just thought I'd mention. The CU, because of the obvious planning and effort they're putting into it, is almost definitely going to hit us all like a brick with an anvil tied to it, inside a blue whale, fired from a cannon when it drops. My thoughts are that it is going to make the ground game practically new again. It'll be like a fresh start over, and best of all, I'm betting it will piss off a lot of the 1337whores out there, so to me, any wait is worth it.
lol I agree about the 1337whores. Being TKM for a few months now......only playing since June though.....I'm already spoiled on what it can do and I'm sure it will probably be one of the professions that gets totally rebalanced. Of course I've also heard rumors that TKM is the devs "baby" profession and isn't getting touched lol.
LaughingWolf
Mon Dec 06, 2004 3:30 pm
#18
Right now, mind attack are devastating because it is THE thing in the HAM that we can't heal in combat, right? If the HAM new system get in even remotely as we saw proposed, won't it make TKM less powerful because it will make mind less of a weak spot?
mrbleepbleep
Mon Dec 06, 2004 5:32 pm
#19
LaughingWolf wrote:
Right now, mind attack are devastating because it is THE thing in the HAM that we can't heal in combat, right? If the HAM new system get in even remotely as we saw proposed, won't it make TKM less powerful because it will make mind less of a weak spot?
True, but TK can attack any of the 3 pools, and have a really high DPS random HAM attack (unarmedhit3).
Also, when armour values get reduced, the TK's weakness of kinetic attacks only will be a lot less of a problem for them, since they won't have to punch through 90% kinetic comp anymore.
Then again, for all I know, TK's DPS might be scaled way back in the CU, so it could be a moot point.
SpinningCloud
Mon Dec 06, 2004 7:12 pm
#20
If CU is up to a year from now where does that put our revamp? At least a year away?
If we have to wait another year for our revamp I will most certainly not be here.
Bzzzz
Mon Dec 06, 2004 8:27 pm
#21
SpinningCloud wrote:
If CU is up to a year from now where does that put our revamp? At least a year away?
I'd say that just another year would be optimistic. Give it 6 months to a year for the CU, and then however long it takes for them to deal with the "easier-fix" profession revamps. Figure if we get pushed to the back of the line (and who doesn't expect that at this point?), it could easily a year to two years.
-Zz
WesBelden
Mon Dec 06, 2004 8:38 pm
#22
While I guess they reserve the right to take a year to do it, as things stand, I'd say I'm 99.9999999999% certain it's going to be done in well under a year. What's the 0.0000000001%? well, there are such things as acts of god and other inexplicable and inconcievable events that I wouldn't want to hazard a guess at.
Anyway, no, not a year away.
Cigaran
Mon Dec 06, 2004 9:32 pm
#23
The part of the CU that has made me laugh all along is how TH and the Dev's seem to think it's this grand thing that totally ground breaking to go in a redo 50% of a game. In reality, what they're saying is, "We nerfed and nerfed to a point where we don't know how to recover it. We're sorry but we f'ed it up so bad that we have to redo half you game so don't expect anything for the rest of it 'til we get this right."
I used to laugh at the people that kept on claiming we where still in beta. At this point, they where right. There's no reason that this should be an issue. Seeing multiple professions take a back seat while they clean up a mess is getting old. I don't care if it's a year or tomorrow. Either way, more than enough of my time and money has been wasted on the crap. Fix combat, fix the professions and shot the next idiot that come to the table with an idea to 'fix' something that isn't needed.
SpinningCloud
Mon Dec 06, 2004 11:44 pm
#24
Wes; "I'd say I'm 99.9999999999% certain it's going to be done in well under a year."
What? The CU? or the Smuggler Revamp?
Are you that confident because of 'inside' information? Or is this just the same kind of 'confidence' we had before Publish 9?
Seriously, if you tell me under a year for Smuggler Revamp based on what you know but can't tell us then I call that some kind of hope...otherwise it's just wishful thinking.
Korrack
Tue Dec 07, 2004 1:11 am
#25
Novock wrote:
Or its a real clever way to get people to constantly think its just around the corner when you know it really is like 6 or 7 months away. Be honest if they knew (which I have a hard time see how they could not) that it would be 7 or 8 months away do you think they would openly say that knowing a lot of people would cancel and not return for 6 or so months? This way you keep as many as you can paying each month having in their minds its a just a few weeks a way.
This is my outlook on it. I expect it around 6 months away. I have been a half full person since last year. How many times can we be told something, it not happen and then us be happy to believe anything we are told. Now, just because I am pesimistic and think it's a long way off, that doesn't mean I'm leaving. I dunno why I am hooked but I am. My guild left the game, I joined a guild that is flatlining and has a Do-Not-Resuscitate order on it, my current guild is getting increasingly quiet, and my last longterm friend finally left the game today.
I need to find a reason to stay, not believe some gobbledeegook that TH is saying. Fool me once shame on you, fool me 34 times, shame on me....
Phenix1050
Tue Dec 07, 2004 1:30 am
#26
since I am actually part of the CU, I will give you this super-secret info-- it will be published when it is ready and not a moment before.
honestly, considering the lingering issues that came from rushing through the Beta of SWG, I'd think people would understand that sometimes, good things take time.
I can also assure you it will be worth the wait. The devs are putting a lot of time into this...and it's looking good.