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Thread: Please Give Us Something ideas listed here please read

321Bebop
Sat May 15, 2004 10:29 pm
#14

"Agreed. And i would like to appologize to the original poster for my harsh response to their opinion, especially without explaining myself more. We need to focus, as a profession, on not tossing idle complaints about, but instead work together to affect change. Amazing how often group dynamicsfrom a videogame parallel with reality."


There you go. Now you are redeemed. And now I can form a better opinion of you.


Only ideas I've come up with thus far that sound like a sure bet to me are:


1. being able to select specific slices (dmg or speed)

2. being able to remove TEFs from people, as well as, our own.

3. smuggler mission terminals

4. spice revamp--make it more competitive with foods and drinks

5. colonel master smuggler can remove -1000 faction standing from a player or for himself every 24hours



Main: Drakon Magi, former triple master.

Alt: Dreack Magi, Spy.

true_Kieran
Sun May 16, 2004 6:41 pm
#15







novakaine wrote:
Where did the mutual respect that made the smuggler community special go? We are sinking lower and lower everyday






Get over it, will ya? We are not able to smuggle since the start, get lied to since the start and still several believe everything TH says, how much lower can we possibly sink?




Jarrod Larson
Bounty Hunter


novakaine
Mon May 17, 2004 1:09 am
#16






true_Kieran wrote:






Get over it, will ya? We are not able to smuggle since the start, get lied to since the start and still several believe everything TH says, how much lower can we possibly sink?





And because of that there is no need to treat each other with respect and dignity? We can sink to the bottom as long as attitudes like that prevail in this community.


Thanks for the 1star



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321Bebop
Mon May 17, 2004 5:37 am
#17

/cheer novakaine





Main: Drakon Magi, former triple master.

Alt: Dreack Magi, Spy.

true_Kieran
Mon May 17, 2004 7:08 am
#18










novakaine wrote:





true_Kieran wrote:






Get over it, will ya? We are not able to smuggle since the start, get lied to since the start and still several believe everything TH says, how much lower can we possibly sink?





And because of that there is no need to treat each other with respect and dignity? We can sink to the bottom as long as attitudes like that prevail in this community.


In addition to what I wrote above, we have smugglers undercutting the slicing prices and calling the others greedy, we reached the bottom long time ago. And what exactly was so unrespectful? That I said I'm not impressed? Are you guys that easily hurt? This sounds much more like the behavior of a baby to me.



Thanks for the 1star

Wasn't from me yet, but now it is. And same here.




Jarrod Larson
Bounty Hunter


novakaine
Mon May 17, 2004 11:23 am
#19


So are you saying that beacuse you dont like how the devs have handled this, and because some smugglers are undervalueing their services that it is now ok for people to come here and flame, troll and in general act like an a$$hat? This will be more productive than a reasonable open attitude?


We can sit around and whine and groan and bite at each other all day long. Or we can get together and discuss Ideas that help shape and guide this profession.


Message Edited by novakaine on 05-17-2004 11:24 AM



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yimaz
Mon May 17, 2004 1:24 pm
#20






novakaine wrote:


So are you saying that beacuse you dont like how the devs have handled this, and because some smugglers are undervalueing their services that it is now ok for people to come here and flame, troll and in general act like an a$$hat? This will be more productive than a reasonable open attitude?


We can sit around and whine and groan and bite at each other all day long. Or we can get together and discuss Ideas that help shape and guide this profession.



Message Edited by novakaine on 05-17-2004 11:24 AM




I want an a$$hat my butt gets cold!


The over message I got from the first post of this thread was that Smuggler was worthless. While we do need a re-vamp badly, rather then saying it is worthless maybe come up with your idea's on how to fix it. "Give me a salution not a problem" we all know smuggler needs to be re-worked your not bringing anything new to light and people are tried of the "Smuggler Sucks" thread. With all that said. I enjoy and make money with Smuggler as it is now, it is not worthless, just needs some true dev TLC...


I really want an a$$hat...





Yimayz Samoot
Master Smuggler & Master Pilot
Captain of the Auto de fé

true_Kieran
Mon May 17, 2004 7:21 pm
#21








novakaine wrote:


So are you saying that beacuse you dont like how the devs have handled this, and because some smugglers are undervalueing their services that it is now ok for people to come here and flame, troll and in general act like an a$$hat? This will be more productive than a reasonable open attitude?


We can sit around and whine and groan and bite at each other all day long. Or we can get together and discuss Ideas that help shape and guide this profession.



Message Edited by novakaine on 05-17-2004 11:24 AM






I ask again, what was it I said that made you cry?


And read what I wrote once again, I didn't say because of the way they handle it, but because of the way we take it! Look at the thread from TH about the delay, the devs themself couldn't believe we are buying this that easily. Yet what do we do? We are happy about it! Not that we don't get the entire revamp now but just one half, not that we get a few changes, no... we are happy getting nothing! Nothing than more promises and delays! What do you expect me to do, say thank you for getting "low blowed"?


And now tell me, what was it I said that was so bad, huh? Would you too be offended when I say I'm not impressed? Is your self confidence that low or why is that such a bad thing?






Jarrod Larson
Bounty Hunter


novakaine
Mon May 17, 2004 11:38 pm
#22

I'm through with this thread and will no longer post here. I will leave you with this. You continue to use language such as "cry", "get over it will ya", behavior of a baby" etc...

If you think that kind of tone is positive or productive, im sorry. You do more harm than good.

I don't see why you insist this is all about you. Sadly, I don't think you "get" it.



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Orcajum
Tue May 18, 2004 12:17 am
#23


novakaine wrote:

So are you saying that beacuse you dont like how the devs have handled this, and because some smugglers are undervalueing their services that it is now ok for people to come here and flame, troll and in general act like an a$$hat? This will be more productive than a reasonable open attitude?

We can sit around and whine and groan and bite at each other all day long. Or we can get together and discuss Ideas that help shape and guide this profession.

Message Edited by novakaine on 05-17-2004 11:24 AM



/salute to you novakaine

Ad Hominem attacks accomplish nothing but instigating more Ad Hominem attacks. Though I've only been posting in here actively for a very short time, this place has always seemed friendly and informal. Let's keep that mentality, shall we? Any beef with the game development and/or a handful of ruffians in game has nothing to do with the people in here.



Orkajum'sydef
Master Smuggler
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yimaz
Tue May 18, 2004 6:26 am
#24






true_Kieran wrote:








novakaine wrote:


So are you saying that beacuse you dont like how the devs have handled this, and because some smugglers are undervalueing their services that it is now ok for people to come here and flame, troll and in general act like an a$$hat? This will be more productive than a reasonable open attitude?


We can sit around and whine and groan and bite at each other all day long. Or we can get together and discuss Ideas that help shape and guide this profession.



Message Edited by novakaine on 05-17-2004 11:24 AM






I ask again, what was it I said that made you cry?


And read what I wrote once again, I didn't say because of the way they handle it, but because of the way we take it! Look at the thread from TH about the delay, the devs themself couldn't believe we are buying this that easily. Yet what do we do? We are happy about it! Not that we don't get the entire revamp now but just one half, not that we get a few changes, no... we are happy getting nothing! Nothing than more promises and delays! What do you expect me to do, say thank you for getting "low blowed"? - ever cross your mind that maybe people did not freak out and cry (unlike you) about the delay because the original "re-vamp" sucked andit was better for them to wait and do it right? The dev'sknow it needs to be fixed they know they have told us for a year that it is going to get fixed and they stoped the re-vamp cause they knew how upset we were. If its just a put off well we will knowin 2 monthsits just a game, deal with it. Stop crying about it.


And now tell me, what was it I said that was so bad, huh? Would you too be offended when I say I'm not impressed? Is your self confidence that low or why is that such a bad thing? - while this has nothing to do with me i feel i have to address it. LOL, LOL, LOLyou dis people then say "your self confidence that low"? Of course people are going to get irate, dont be stupid your tone says it all. The only person I see crying is you.





Yimayz Samoot
Master Smuggler & Master Pilot
Captain of the Auto de fé

true_Kieran
Tue May 18, 2004 6:49 am
#25




novakaine wrote:

I'm through with this thread and will no longer post here. I will leave you with this. You continue to use language such as "cry", "get over it will ya", behavior of a baby" etc...

If you think that kind of tone is positive or productive, im sorry. You do more harm than good.

I don't see why you insist this is all about you. Sadly, I don't think you "get" it.

bye bye








yimaz wrote:

- ever cross your mind that maybe people did not freak out and cry (unlike you) about the delay because the original "re-vamp" sucked andit was better for them to wait and do it right? The dev'sknow it needs to be fixed they know they have told us for a year that it is going to get fixed and they stoped the re-vamp cause they knew how upset we were. If its just a put off well we will knowin 2 monthsits just a game, deal with it. Stop crying about it.

And now tell me, what was it I said that was so bad, huh? Would you too be offended when I say I'm not impressed? Is your self confidence that low or why is that such a bad thing? - while this has nothing to do with me i feel i have to address it. LOL, LOL, LOLyou dis people then say "your self confidence that low"? Of course people are going to get irate, dont be stupid your tone says it all. The only person I see crying is you.


Who's crying? Instead of asking for at least something you happily take nothing, that's you problem, not mine. I've made my experiences in such cases long ago, since this is by far not my first mmorpg and it's always the same. I'm only showing you how deep we sank. You think such threads are bad? I would rather have to deal with 3 flame threads a week than with a community where people get a punch to the right side of their faces, sit there smiling and say "don't forget the other side please". Crying? No, that would mean I'm sad because of it, but I already don't care anymore, just showing you my reasons. But don't worry, as soon as pistoleer is good without low blow and last ditch, I'm out of here, wishing you all luck and a lot of nerves, and experience tells me, you will need it. Since you believe in everything they say, this would be at pub 10 the latest. I took up smuggler once to smuggle, not to be a slicing monkey, a FP seller or just a guy waiting forever for his revamp. If we get a good revamp with pub 11, and I'm sure we won't, I'll come back here and apologize, if not, I won't come back to say "I told you", but maybe some of you will remember this and several other threads where people told you how it would be.














Jarrod Larson
Bounty Hunter


yimaz
Tue May 18, 2004 7:02 am
#26






true_Kieran wrote:




novakaine wrote:

I'm through with this thread and will no longer post here. I will leave you with this. You continue to use language such as "cry", "get over it will ya", behavior of a baby" etc...

If you think that kind of tone is positive or productive, im sorry. You do more harm than good.

I don't see why you insist this is all about you. Sadly, I don't think you "get" it.

bye bye








yimaz wrote:

- ever cross your mind that maybe people did not freak out and cry (unlike you) about the delay because the original "re-vamp" sucked andit was better for them to wait and do it right? The dev'sknow it needs to be fixed they know they have told us for a year that it is going to get fixed and they stoped the re-vamp cause they knew how upset we were. If its just a put off well we will knowin 2 monthsits just a game, deal with it. Stop crying about it.

And now tell me, what was it I said that was so bad, huh? Would you too be offended when I say I'm not impressed? Is your self confidence that low or why is that such a bad thing? - while this has nothing to do with me i feel i have to address it. LOL, LOL, LOLyou dis people then say "your self confidence that low"? Of course people are going to get irate, dont be stupid your tone says it all. The only person I see crying is you.


Who's crying? Instead of asking for at least something you happily take nothing, that's you problem, not mine. I've made my experiences in such cases long ago, since this is by far not my first mmorpg and it's always the same. I'm only showing you how deep we sank. You think such threads are bad? I would rather have to deal with 3 flame threads a week than with a community where people get a punch to the right side of their faces, sit there smiling and say "don't forget the other side please". Crying? No, that would mean I'm sad because of it, but I already don't care anymore, just showing you my reasons. But don't worry, as soon as pistoleer is good without low blow and last ditch, I'm out of here, wishing you all luck and a lot of nerves, and experience tells me, you will need it. Since you believe in everything they say, this would be at pub 10 the latest. I took up smuggler once to smuggle, not to be a slicing monkey, a FP seller or just a guy waiting forever for his revamp. If we get a good revamp with pub 11, and I'm sure we won't, I'll come back here and apologize, if not, I won't come back to say "I told you", but maybe some of you will remember this and several other threads where people told you how it would be.









/cheers


your like eric cartman - "screw you guys im going home!", lol


enjoy pistoleer











Yimayz Samoot
Master Smuggler & Master Pilot
Captain of the Auto de fé

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