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Thread: Holy Smokes, the Devs WILL change prereqs for professions...

JTGAlpha
Tue Jun 29, 2004 2:39 pm
#14

Well in all fairness, Bzzz, bounty hunters have had a rather tulmulteous PvP carreer. They started out being one of the strongest, and that got nerfed, and rightly so. But now they are expected to hunt players who have, according to continuity and mechanics, the template for potentially being the fiercest warriors, and are forced to do it with only their skillset as the Master Bounty Hunter build doesn't really leave room for much else which is unfair.



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mrbleepbleep
Tue Jun 29, 2004 3:06 pm
#15



JTGAlpha wrote:
Well in all fairness, Bzzz, bounty hunters have had a rather tulmulteous PvP carreer. They started out being one of the strongest, and that got nerfed, and rightly so. But now they are expected to hunt players who have, according to continuity and mechanics, the template for potentially being the fiercest warriors, and are forced to do it with only their skillset as the Master Bounty Hunter build doesn't really leave room for much else which is unfair.





I agree. Let's be happy for a fellow broken profession, hehe. BTW, has anyone else noticed that it's now possible to get BH pistols with master smuggler (if my math's correct). We could hunt each other after our revamp :-)



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The Sith covet passion but reject peace.
Neither is the whole truth. Life needs both passion and peace."
HOTDOG
Tue Jun 29, 2004 3:17 pm
#16

I gotta agree with JTGALPHA,

Though smuggs have been screwed for a year as well we haven't quite been kicked around as hard as BHs (close enough mind you). Our revamp had better be worth the wait though.


The thing I see here is- people are mad. Mad because a profession that most feel shouldn't be in the game is getting MAD attention when other profs that have been broken since day one are ignored.


Onthe Devsend Jedi IS the most sought after profession in the game and so it HAS to be fun and WORTH the time that a majority of the player base has put towards achieving it. The other thing is it HAS to WORK CORRECTLY - because after publish 10 the Jedi will have to take a backseat to the rest of the game for a LONG, LONG TIME or else there are going to be serious problems.


Now as far as our prereques' are concerned, I am happywith themas they are-My only change would be that the DF line be made with combat XP and that we not be chained to the pistol because Han was. I'm pretty sure I've posted my position several times.And GM seems to want to go that directionbut I think he did mention something about wanting tochange the prereque's but not wanting to deal withall the problems it would cause.


I need to find the post where they talk about thechanges to BH.If they are just taking away some of the lines and not filling them with anything else...Master Smuggler/Master BH might be something I might beinterested in-







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gpthree
Tue Jun 29, 2004 3:41 pm
#17

Does this mean as a smuggler/bounty hunter I could take missions on the BH terminals for myself. (If they are included in our revamp.)



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JTGAlpha
Tue Jun 29, 2004 3:47 pm
#18

I doubt it. But if you could get your bounty served while you were searching for a bounty. That'd be neat...



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ONE-ARM
Tue Jun 29, 2004 3:51 pm
#19

I've been a master smuggler for about 8 months... and I HATE that I am dependant on pistols. Pistols are not nearly strong enough without the mods provided in bounty hunter. I Grabbed TKM and I am killing stuff I could never kill as master pistoleer in a decent amount of time. And if I want ANY defenses at all I have to get TKM or a fencer tree because pistoleer give Def vs Knockdown and melee but NO ranged...



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HOTDOG
Tue Jun 29, 2004 3:51 pm
#20

Hmmmm, I hope not- I don't think you could get any money on it if you could anyway as there is no way to shoot yourself.


Also, just because you take the mission doesn't mean another BH can't take the mission so I think we can still set up Smuggler Bounties without exploits (at least in that fashion).








TEVIN STARGUNNER | WASODO T'GADIE

Rogue | Desperado | Demolitionist Short | Dark | Handsome

Master Smuggler | Master Bounty Hunter | Commando 0400 | Rebel Capt. Smuggler | Teras Kasi Artist | Unaffiliated
realvorda
Tue Jun 29, 2004 4:18 pm
#21

you can kill yourself by using nades...

I doubt though that oyu would be able to take a mission for yourself..



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KaernLegorah
Tue Jun 29, 2004 4:31 pm
#22

The new super pistol template is Master Pistoleer, BH Pistols, Smuggler Dirty Fighting, and Novice Commando. With 18 skills points to spare. While I'm glad for the BH's that this is getting changed for them; I'm wary as to whether or not the new template will be imbalancing or not. Should prove interesting.



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HOTDOG
Tue Jun 29, 2004 4:36 pm
#23

Man, that template sounds DEADLY- but you really miss out on the FUN stuff from each of the fields-

No bounties for BH-

No Slicing and Spicing for Smuggler- (and probably no bounties on your head)

Just a breath of Commando is really a tease

Master Pistoleer- Well, there is always the combat balance.


I guess you would be awesome at ranged though.






TEVIN STARGUNNER | WASODO T'GADIE

Rogue | Desperado | Demolitionist Short | Dark | Handsome

Master Smuggler | Master Bounty Hunter | Commando 0400 | Rebel Capt. Smuggler | Teras Kasi Artist | Unaffiliated
JTGAlpha
Tue Jun 29, 2004 4:43 pm
#24

Kaern....not so new. That was how it used to be as well...but at least dedicated pistol users will actually matter again.



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Founders of Agrilatia in the Agrilat Swamps Of Corellia (Intrepid).
Taking Scum and Villainy to a new Level to Serve YOU.
Remember: SCUM does it dirty
Another Horseman of the Smuggling Apocolypse

Rivern
Tue Jun 29, 2004 5:43 pm
#25



HOTDOG wrote:
Man, that template sounds DEADLY- but you really miss out on the FUN stuff from each of the fields-
No bounties for BH-
No Slicing and Spicing for Smuggler- (and probably no bounties on your head)
Just a breath of Commando is really a tease
Master Pistoleer- Well, there is always the combat balance.
I guess you would be awesome at ranged though.





Forget Commando, lag pistol ain't worth it. I would do:

Master Smuggler
Master Pistoleer
BH 3X4X --> Terrain Negotiation, Jedi Bounties, and Desperado..too cruel

I've been looking for a good enough reason to drop TKA

<3 <3 <3



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ruehs
Tue Jun 29, 2004 5:50 pm
#26






Rivern wrote:





HOTDOG wrote:

Man, that template sounds DEADLY- but you really miss out on the FUN stuff from each of the fields-

No bounties for BH-

No Slicing and Spicing for Smuggler- (and probably no bounties on your head)

Just a breath of Commando is really a tease

Master Pistoleer- Well, there is always the combat balance.


I guess you would be awesome at ranged though.







Forget Commando, lag pistol ain't worth it. I would do:

Master Smuggler
Master Pistoleer
BH 3X4X --> Terrain Negotiation, Jedi Bounties, and Desperado..too cruel

I've been looking for a good enough reason to drop TKA

<3 <3 <3





sorry not possible. unless of course YOU get 293 sp's instead of the 250 everyone else gets.



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