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Thread: 3 Second Armor Delay in new combat revamp......... FD affected?

Delroh
Mon Jun 28, 2004 3:24 pm
#14






Smuggler_Caylin wrote:


Copy of what I've written in the c-forum just now,regarding this issue.







Armor Equip/Unequip Delay and the decreasing viability of Feign Death.


"With the new Equip/Unequip armor delay code being placed into the game,there is aneed to address the concern of Feign Deathwith this new change.


It is common practice for most smugglers to have all armor removed prior to feigning death in a combat situation. Not only does this remove the problem of slow regeneration while feigning death, but it also is a much required tool to prevent griefing in GCW/PvP situations.


If a player in a GCW/PvP situation succeeds in the use of feign death, they leave their bodies up to all manner of grief tactics. Poisons, diseases, flames and any other method designed to increase your down time are used without concern or regard for the player they are being inflicted upon.


As players who are in a feigned state are open to further attacks, if the player is unable to unequip their armor before attempting feign death, they leave themselves open to players who wish to reduce their armor condition from 30k to 0.


Smugglers leave themselves open to grief just by feigning death no matter what. Now they don't evenhave the option of removing the armor to prevent players from destroying their equipment.


This new change, while admittedly realistic, addsanother reason for smugglers to shelve this skill.


Could smugglers get an official statement regarding the use of Feign Death in a PVP/GCW situation? There is a rumored PM supposedly from Taurin saying that Feign Death was never intended as a pvp move.Shouldthat be the case, please allow me to formally address the issue with the smuggler community with a comment from the developers.


If Feign Death is not intended as a PVP move, there should be some way provided by the developers to prevent this kind of grief from happening to the smuggler. By not allowing Feign death tosucceed if the shot to the smuggler is in a pvp situation, or some other option. The smuggler should not be open to such grief tactics. It needs to be a viable skill, or it should be prevented from being used in a pvp situation outright."







Thanks Caylin,



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WillburWright
Mon Jun 28, 2004 5:39 pm
#15

I think I can pull my pistol faster than in 5 seconds....


Maybe if they fix FD, too....

BeigeKnight
Mon Jun 28, 2004 7:33 pm
#16

Feign death is something I constantly talk to my guildies about that are thinking about trying smuggler. Caylin, is there any chance this is getting fixed? And when I say fixed, I mean mobs not aggro-ing me from hundereds of meters away on another floor. Or players pounding on us forever. If someone shoots me in the side and I fall, and I know what I'm doing, I think they would be somewhat convinced that I died. I'm talking at the master level. Of all the skills that we smugglers have that have lost most of their usefulness, I would like to see this one taken care of. I mean, Jedi can revive themselves from a deathblow. We're nowhere near jedi, but we are a sneaky bunch who use dirty tatics. With this skill not being too useful, I don't feel too dirty...



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Smuggler_Caylin
Mon Jun 28, 2004 8:03 pm
#17

I've asked before, I know they understand the situation, but I have no idea what they are working on regarding Feign Death issues...


We even go into that with the vision documents...


When I hear something, I'll do my best to let yall know.



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ScahtRunningstar
Tue Jun 29, 2004 12:28 am
#18

havenot heard about the armor delay. Gun delay sucks though. especially when you are fighting creatures with different resists.






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