Smuggler Archive

im about ready to quit... the only thing that stays my hand is the friends ive made.. and now mpst of them are leaving. i log in i think of something to do.. and i log out, because i realise that there is nothing..

I set a date a while back. Then I swear within a week they released the revamp concept docs, and despite the fact they're missing a couple key smuggler components, it looks like such a solid foundation any plans I had to leave were pushed back indefinitely.

Besides, I'm starting to feel a little like Lando: I've become so involved in my shipwright business and our space PVP squad that the smuggler side of me is no longer my dominant identity. In a way, it's like I've got 86 skill points locked away in the basement waiting to ripen or mature or whatever dumb metaphor you want to use, and while I'll work and fight tirelessly to see that they end up being the best they can possibly be, I don't get worked up about them the way I used to. It's a lot healthier than I used to feel about my professions.

If your game is centered around smuggling, however--and I hope for plenty of us it still does--it makes a lot of sense to set a date. To take a break, if nothing else. We will miss you, but it's just not healthy to stick with something if it doesn't look like it's got the chance to meet your expectations in a reasonable amount of time.

Hey nick when you leave in a few months check me out at the place in the sig

I'll find you a spot

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WookieBounty wrote:
Hey nick when you leave in a few months check me out at the place in the sig

I'll find you a spot

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At first I was like "Hell no!" But then I saw that your NAMBLA sig has been changed to WoW/Tarq Legion.

I might try it if there's a free download and trial WoW that is.

I have a thread for player smuggling, freighting and a couple of other twists on Core Systems at the moment, actually. You can find it here (clicky).

But my date was set some time ago and that date still stands. June 30th. The two-year anniversary of the first day i managed to log into SWG and immediately started working for Smuggler.

After that, we'll see.

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Ternque01 wrote:

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It wasn't really my intent to harm you that bad with my retort on that past issue, really. It sucked to see you harmed like that, and for that I appologise.

I now understand that you had worn out your low gears and were just on cruise control, so my bad for socking you in the nuts at that speed.

I must admit, it is like a knife learning that we won't really get player-to-player smuggling. The pain isn't so intense because we could all truly see it coming though. I was REALLY bothered that we wouldn't get REAL bounty hunters.

[snip]You also have the issue of the smuggling system propossal as having quite a few characteristics that really do seem full of the potential for player smuggling and player bounties. In a way, this potential is enough hope for many that things will eventually get put in that are cool, and not some lame misrepresentation of smuggling.

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Again, sorry to hear you have set a date, and you have my appologies. Perhaps this situation can be addressed and "handled". It is a tragedy to have a watered down form of smuggling, and even more of a tragedy to me to have LAME NPC bounty hunters. Who ever makes the decisions for the exclusion of this content needs to make a connection with the players.

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I think I forgot tosay somethoungabout the proposed NPC smuggling system. I love it. I have no beef with it. I think it's awesome that Smugglers are finally smuggling spice rather than sitting in their backyard running it through some space-age meth-mill. Hazzah for it.

BUT...it is what it is. NPC smuggling. And right now, it's the end all, be all "end game" as far as our profession's true talents go. That's where the coolness ends and my beef begins. There's no interactive part of it other than Smugglers becoming part time drug dealers, faction contacts, and hackers to get that player to player interaction with their profession.

I just wanted to clear that up.

And it wasn't you, specifically, that did it. You and me had some words but it was the "whole picture" that I feel did it. One person will certainly not make me feel bad or do me in. Ever.

So, don't apologize for voicing your opinions. That's what's made this community the very best. I just felt like I did my very best, was disappointed at the results, and instead of the community getting behind the issue, it sort of laid down and took what I was saying the wrong way.

Not your fault. Not the community's fault. No one should be blamed or persecuted for their ideals or opinions...unless their insanely stupid or foolish ((*cough*Jedi*cough*))

Thanks for replying, Ternque. And, just as proof I hold no animosity or anything...who was hanging out and joking around with everyone that I was "arguing" with in the SIN chat a day or two after the ordeal? Just to clear that up as well.

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JediArashi wrote:

Well Nick, let me just say that I am really down about how dissapointed you are. Your analogy about being punched in the gut by your best friend really brought the whole thing home for me. I know that I already posted in your other thread on the issue, but let me speak on the subject some more.

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What I do know is this. In the wake of the void that was created when EN, Solo, Kav, and Dreven left in the span of 2 or 3 months; you made a strong and influencial difference in this community. I have always sought out your posts, and listened to what you've said with interest and an eagerness for more. You are one of this community's leaders, and I hope you are able to stay that way.

Here's what we do from here on out. I accept that we have dissapointed you, I don't like it, butI accept that you have your feelings on the subject and you have a right to them. But, take a look at the posts above this one....those are some strong Smugglers who have already followed your path (or at least gone vocal about them after you did).

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I somehow skipped this post. Sorry, just read it.

I really appreciate the support and all. Means a lot. But I want everyone to know that they're probably looking to the wrong place for community "leadership" if you've got me placed there. Fish, Caylin, Wes, Dreven, Geevo, JTG, ect. Those are the guys that everyone should go to. I encourage all newbies, members, and veteransto seek out their posts and listen to what they have to say. All I do is look to those real leaders, way their opinions against my own, and respond with my own feedback. Just like everyone else. Hope that didn't come off as rude or anything, but...I think I'm just out of place when grouped with them.

And I don't think anyone should feel like they didn't pass my approval. I'm just another player. I was not disappointed at any one individual. Just disappointed that the situation didn't get responded to (at all imho).

I have been rather surprised at the number of people saying "I was disappointed to and I have set a date as well". I mean no disrespect but I figured most people in that catagory were keeping quiet because of a community sensus. I really hate that so many have this plan but I must confess that it makes me crack a smile knowing that I'm in the same boat with some other people and not alone.

Thanks, Arashi and everyone else as well.

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WookieBounty wrote:
Hey nick when you leave in a few months check me out at the place in the sig

I'll find you a spot

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At first I was like "Hell no!" But then I saw that your NAMBLA sig has been changed to WoW/Tarq Legion.

I might try it if there's a free download and trial WoW that is.

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no need to waste your time with a trial version noob....

just buy it play and have fun....