Smuggler Archive

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TimSpork wrote:
Ok quick question. Does anyone know which high end loots are for which armor slice? I salvaged a trandsosian interframe, shock padding, and power motivator and wanted to know without wasting a simple and fine toolkit to find out.

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I've updated the link i included to the new, more recent, more in depth chart

Max - you've actually spoken to someone ingame about this, right? if so then I hope they do fix this slicing thing. Also, does anyone know how we slice without converted upgrade kits? Can weapons just simply be sliced or do we (as I read somewhere) have to get loot from high-end npc's?

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CaptainTanis wrote:
Max - you've actually spoken to someone ingame about this, right? if so then I hope they do fix this slicing thing. Also, does anyone know how we slice without converted upgrade kits? Can weapons just simply be sliced or do we (as I read somewhere) have to get loot from high-end npc's?

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Not *all* loot needed for slicing is on high-end NPCs. Just the level 3 and (for speed) level 4 slices.

Level 1 slices require no component.
Level 2 slices require a basic component that can be looted off of easier opponents.
Level 3 and 4 slices require harder-to-find components.

There is no *list* yet what drops these components. Time to get out there and look!

We are also keeping all of the slicing loots info here

http://forums.station.sony.com/swg/board/message?board.id=smuggler&message.id=196821#M196821

BUMP FOR THESE DAMMED "HOW MUCH IS THIS WORTH?" POSTS...

bump for some updates and also because it apaprently STILL isn't working...

I'm sort of wondernig. As this hasnt been addressed anywhere it seems. Yet asked a few times. What is supposed to happen with laser knives and clamps? None of them have a conversion option like some of the AUKs and WUKs do.

Laser knives and clamps are now worthless junk.

Film at 11.

update for the knives/clamps info

I really hope I'm not doing this for naught

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Pumbak wrote:
question anyone else not getting xp for slicing weapons and terminals ????

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slcing's based off pistol xp, so I would imagine you wouldn't any more.

EDIT 3: Worked out DPS averages for a base weapon recieving these numbers, assuming no conflict with caps. helpful *ONLY* if working with a weapon that will not come up against hard caps when sliced in your hands!

(SOMEONE CHECK MY MATH?)

Combos at first glance: (All data based on information here in this thread, I cant log in yet- at work)

Base weapon: Spd 2 Dmg 250-500 Crit 0% DPS out of 100: 187.5


1) D3 | 60% | 8% dmg increase
S1 | 20% | 2% spd increase
C1 | 20% | 3% crit chance

Parts needed: 1 Simple Toolkit
1 Illegal Core Booster

Total Custom: 100%

Result: Speed: 1.96 Dmg: 250-540 Crit 3% DPS out of 100: 207.577


2) D2 | 40% | 4% dmg increase
C2 | 60% | 5% crit chance

Parts needed: 2 Simple Toolkits
1 Finely crafted Toolkit

Total Custom: 100%

Result: Speed: 2 Dmg: 250-520 Crit 5% DPS out of 100: 202.125

3) S1 | 20% | 2% spd increase
D1 | 20% | 2% dmg increase
C2 | 60% | 5% crit chance

Parts needed: 1 Simple Toolkit
1 Finely Crafted Toolkit

Total Custom: 100%

Result: Speed: 1.96 Dmg: 250-510 Crit 5% DPS out of 100: 203.571


4) S4 | 100%| 12% spd increase

Parts needed: 1 Simple Toolkit
1 Finely Crafted Toolkit
1 Delicate Trigger Assembly

Total Custom: 100%

Result: Speed: 1.76 Dmg: 250-500 Crit 0% DPS out of 100: 213.068


5) C4 | 100%| 10% crit chance

Parts needed: 1 Simple Toolkit
1 Finely Crafted Toolkit
1 Delicate Trigger Assembly

Total Custom: 100%

Result: Spd 2 Dmg 250-500 Crit 10% DPS out of 100: 206.25


6) S3 | 70% | 7% spd increase
D1 | 20% | 2% dmg increase

Parts needed: 1 Simple Toolkit
1 Finely Crafted Toolkit

Total Custom: 90%

Result: Spd 1.86 Dmg 250-510 Crit 0% DPS out of 100: 204.301


7) S3 | 70% | 7% spd increase
C1 | 20% | 3% crit chance

Parts needed: 2 Simple Toolkit
1 Finely Crafted Toolkit

Total Custom: 90%

Result: Spd 1.86 Dmg 250-500 Crit 3% DPS out of 100: 207.661


8) S2 | 45% | 4% spd increase
D2 | 40% | 4% dmg increase

Parts needed: 2 Simple Toolkit

Total Custom: 85%

Result: Spd 1.92 Dmg 250-520 Crit 0% DPS out of 100: 200.52


9) S2 | 45% | 4% spd increase
D1 | 20% | 2% dmg increase
C1 | 20% | 3% crit chance

Parts needed: 2 Simple Toolkit

Total Custom: 85%

Result: Spd 1.92 Dmg 250-510 Crit 2% DPS out of 100: 201.875

NOTE: Altering the crit customizations from the current 20/40/40 to 20/35/45 would open up MANY more varities.

SUGGESTION: Push for crit customization %s to be changed to 20/35/45!

EDIT: re-applied formatting on PC cause Safari sucks

EDIT2: I can just see it now... Client: "I'd like you to slice my weapon, I have loot parts" Smuggler: "ok, here's my menu, let me know your selection" *emails above list to client* Client: "Ooh! I'll have a number 2!" Smuggler: "Alright, that comes with fries. Would you like Muon, Pixie, or Honey-Mustard?"

Message Edited by KaiRan on 06-29-2005 05:42 PM

Message Edited by KaiRan on 06-29-2005 05:52 PM

Message Edited by KaiRan on 06-30-2005 05:21 PM

Message Edited by KaiRan on 06-30-2005 05:34 PM

EDIT: Added DPS calculations from above.

Fighting the caps: where to go when the weapon can't take no mo.
(this post assumes slices cannot exceed hard weapon caps, as stated elsewhere on this forum)


Example A: "I want the most damage" client:

Cap at D1: add (C2 + S1) = 203.571 DPS -OR-(S3) = 204.301 DPS -OR- (S2 + C1) = 201.875 DPS
Cap at D2: add (S2) = 200.52DPS -OR- (C2) = 202.125 DPS
Cap at D3: add (S1 + C1)= 207.577 DPS


Example B: "I want the fastest speed" client:

Cap at S1: add (D3 + C1) -OR- (C2 + D1)
Cap at S2: add (D2) = 200.52 DPS -OR- (D1 + C1)= 201.875 DPS
Cap at S3: add (D1)= 204.301 DPS -OR- (C1) = 207.661 DPS
Cap at S4: add... nothing, yer done!


Example C: "I want the best chance at a critical!"

No caps, duh!

Weaponsmith cap data

Message Edited by KaiRan on 06-29-2005 06:26 PM

Message Edited by KaiRan on 06-30-2005 05:45 PM