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Thread: Well guys.. we get shafted again..

EmonOkari
Tue Jul 26, 2005 5:28 pm
#14

We know that Smugglers have been keeping their 'cancel' (or respec) promises. For I am now getting numerous emails and tells begging for a slice. I am told daily that my clients have been searching for days for an available Smuggler, to no avail. It appears I'm one of the few left still slicing. As much as it 'profits' me now, it saddens me for the future.



Emon Okari | Gunslinger
Captain Of Dusty Drifter

tackleberry6672
Tue Jul 26, 2005 5:31 pm
#15

Yea profits are UP and fun playing the game is DOWN. This has been a very bad week for the smuggler.



- I support a rollback and keeping & balancing the old combat system.
...and making SWG a better place to be.
Your voice counts!
Chemistrius
Tue Jul 26, 2005 5:33 pm
#16



Antonnio wrote:


EmonOkari wrote:
We know that Smugglers have been keeping their 'cancel' (or respec) promises. For I am now getting numerous emails and tells begging for a slice. I am told daily that my clients have been searching for days for an available Smuggler, to no avail. It appears I'm one of the few left still slicing. As much as it 'profits' me now, it saddens me for the future.





Tell them to all send in bug reports or contact the nearest CSR.

Tell them you are having difficulty finding a smuggler. It might have something to do with them lying to us for two years then postponing our revamp for the up-teenth time.


Brilliant!



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Starsider

Ride the walrus!
Tiggs
Tue Jul 26, 2005 5:43 pm
#17






Chemistrius wrote:
Honestly, this should come as NO surprise to any of you.

SOE has no respect for you as customers, never has and likely never will. For them to even think that they do is an insult to our intelligence.





The entire team cares very much about you the customers and the game. The game is constantly evolving and we need to focus our energy on bug fixes and making the game more fun for a wider audience. That includes the present audience in that. We want to have more players for you to play with and I am sure you want that also. With this comes reducing the scope of our publishes so that we can make sure that publishes are cleaner. This doesn't mean that there won't be changes to professions or other content, it just means that bigger things are pushed out and given the time to be worked on that they deserve.

Antonnio
Tue Jul 26, 2005 5:44 pm
#18



Thomen wrote:
Take a look here... Tiggs just mentioned that our revamp is postponed
http://forums.station.sony.com/swg/board/message?board.id=generalgame&message.id=30689&view=by_date_ascending&page=2
sorry for no clicky =/

Message Edited by Thomen on 07-26-2005 06:33 PM





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magnum1138
Tue Jul 26, 2005 5:46 pm
#19

Is it possible for you to give a straight information for once.

Is there a smuggler revamp or not.
I dont carfe when it is coming right now.

BUT are the things that have been said true or not.

Simple as that.

If so which things have been true.

Straight answer - up or down - yes or no - left or right?

Repsectfully
Magnum
OrachDamh
Tue Jul 26, 2005 5:47 pm
#20






magnum1138 wrote:
Is it possible for you to give a straight information for once.

Is there a smuggler revamp or not.
I dont carfe when it is coming right now.

BUT are the things that have been said true or not.

Simple as that.

If so which things have been true.

Straight answer - up or down - yes or no - left or right?

Repsectfully
Magnum



Sick 'em boy. Sick 'em. LOL

Antonnio
Tue Jul 26, 2005 5:48 pm
#21



magnum1138 wrote:
Is it possible for you to give a straight information for once.

Is there a smuggler revamp or not.
I dont carfe when it is coming right now.

BUT are the things that have been said true or not.

Simple as that.

If so which things have been true.

Straight answer - up or down - yes or no - left or right?

Repsectfully
Magnum




I agree. We HAVE been promised this smuggling mission content. According to what we have been told, it was nearly completed. If it really is far into production, then why haven't we recieved any information on it.

We would like to recieve some word from the devs. Even if it is only something minimal. I think they owe THAT much to us.



Smuggler4LifeSmuggler4LifeSmug  |
gler4LifeSmuggler4LifeSmuggler | Antonnio J. Rossi
4LifeSmuggler4LifeSmuggler4Lif | Captain of the Lone Wolf
eSmuggler4LifeSmuggler4LifeSmu | For Profit Only
ggler4LifeSmuggler4LifeSmuggle | * * *
r4LifeSmuggler4LifeSmuggler4Li |
feSmuggler4LifeSmuggler4LifeSm | My Holonet Page
uggler4LifeSmuggler4LifeSmuggl |
er4LifeSmuggler4LifeSmuggler4L | We're made to suffer. It's our lot in life.
magnum1138
Tue Jul 26, 2005 5:50 pm
#22

Orach - you go and play your jedi
And let ud try to get an intelligent, fun game.

Go back - grind-

while I talk sense into people (My word matters, doesn't it; hm guess not)

See you tomorrow old man.

MAgnum
Chemistrius
Tue Jul 26, 2005 5:50 pm
#23



Tiggs wrote:


Chemistrius wrote:
Honestly, this should come as NO surprise to any of you.

SOE has no respect for you as customers, never has and likely never will. For them to even think that they do is an insult to our intelligence.


The entire team cares very much about you the customers and the game. The game is constantly evolving and we need to focus our energy on bug fixes and making the game more fun for a wider audience. That includes the present audience in that. We want to have more players for you to play with and I am sure you want that also. With this comes reducing the scope of our publishes so that we can make sure that publishes are cleaner. This doesn't mean that there won't be changes to professions or other content, it just means that bigger things are pushed out and given the time to be worked on that they deserve.




Oh come on, you've had 23 frelling months, you've been given more than ample time and opportunity to give it the time and energy it deserves. SOE's problem is that they just won't do it. You won't commit resources to finishing off this profession. You've promised, you've ignored, you've lied, you've under delivered. It is certainly not without just cause that people around here are skeptical and even hostile. If you honestly gave a damn about your customers you would not have treated them in this manner to begin with let alone continued to treat us like this for 2 years.



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magnum1138
Tue Jul 26, 2005 5:53 pm
#24

finishing this profession?
Starting i would say.

Slicing wasn't even part of the design in the beginning, but a whole seperate profession, for crying out loud.

GIVE US HOPE

Magnum
Lord_Eoin
Tue Jul 26, 2005 5:55 pm
#25






Antonnio wrote:





magnum1138 wrote:
Is it possible for you to give a straight information for once.

Is there a smuggler revamp or not.
I dont carfe when it is coming right now.

BUT are the things that have been said true or not.

Simple as that.

If so which things have been true.

Straight answer - up or down - yes or no - left or right?

Repsectfully
Magnum






I agree. We HAVE been promised this smuggling mission content. According to what we have been told, it was nearly completed. If it really is far into production, then why haven't we recieved any information on it.

We would like to recieve some word from the devs. Even if it is only something minimal. I think they owe THAT much to us.



but if it turns out to be like the slicing 'upgrade', id rather just keep spice crafting.




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SmugglinZane
Tue Jul 26, 2005 5:59 pm
#26






Tiggs wrote:





Chemistrius wrote:
Honestly, this should come as NO surprise to any of you.

SOE has no respect for you as customers, never has and likely never will. For them to even think that they do is an insult to our intelligence.





The entire team cares very much about you the customers and the game. The game is constantly evolving and we need to focus our energy on bug fixes and making the game more fun for a wider audience. That includes the present audience in that. We want to have more players for you to play with and I am sure you want that also. With this comes reducing the scope of our publishes so that we can make sure that publishes are cleaner. This doesn't mean that there won't be changes to professions or other content, it just means that bigger things are pushed out and given the time to be worked on that they deserve.






I think you've forgotten who you're talking to Tiggs. Everytime Smuggler is supposed to be in the pipeline, something else comes up. Now we've seen every aspect of Jedi overhauled 3 times and we're still waiting on something THAT WAS SAID TO BE A CONCERN AT LAUNCH!!!


You say you care about the customers, I say once and for all prove it. Prove that you actually give a crap by giving us the profession we should have had 2 freakin years ago.


Don't wait until 2 years after launch to tell us that bugs are now a priority and everything else will take lesser importance.


Don't forget you've got other professions that STILL need revamped.


Don't forget Smuggler and non combat professions were supposed to get their "revamps" immediately following the CU and you're STILL focusing on BH/Jedi interaction.


Don't forget we were told that our content was SUPPOSED to be almost done.


Don't forget that you have mods running around here deleting posts and banning players for discussing GAME issues while you allow players to openly troll and flame.


Lastly, but most importantly, it's time you realise that you're not dealing with a bunch of children. Many of us are accomplished adults who know how things work. We remember the important things. We expect people to hold true to their word just like we hold true to our monthly payments. It's time to put away the BS and lay all the cards out. If you want players to stick around, you're gonna have to do this. Doublespeak and attempted kowtowing smell like the BS it is everytime.



Don't forget Tiggs, because if you haven't learned by now, you can be damn sure we won't forget.



"Jedi claims of being "broken" are like saying "But my TV isn't widescreen! It's broken! My TV can't show high-def pictures in 1080i, it can only do 720i! It's broken!" Meanwhile, crafters are saying "We'd really like to have a TV that's larger than 12" and gets more than 4 channels and doesn't constantly lose vertical control", and entertainers are saying "Can we get some color instead of this B&W piece of junk?" And smugglers? We're listening to radio programs of "The Shadow" and "The Abbot and Costello Comedy Hour" and hearing FDR's Fireside Chats. We don't even HAVE a damn TV, much less a broken one or a "broken" one by Jedi standards. I'd LOVE to be as "broken" as they are." - The Legendary Solo4114
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