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Thread: New Slicing Crunching the Numbers
i'll try again with fewer numbers, i know my descriptions always have a little problem with flair and ease of reading. a speed slice increases the Basespeed of a weapon by a set %. Your speed skills increase this base speed to give a modified speed (a very nasty equation). this modified speed is not the speed the weapon fires at in real time. a rough guide (my tests were beggining to show) would be that your weapon would fire (the speed in the combat log) at a multiple of the modified speed. to get this fire speed you see in the combat log window you roughly halve the mod speed of the weapon and add 1. This guide works for using the ranged/placed shot combo i used in my test.
in addition to that, roughly again, the speed it takes to do headshot/critical back to back is then ax1.8 the speed you get for the 'real' fire speed for ranged/place shot.
all this means is that a 12% speed slice gives lesser increase in damage over time that it might seem, especially for already high speed weapons
Now some math (note the complete change in'dps' after the slice in real terms (this assumes a player mod speed of perhaps 160?):
2.5 base speed (unsliced)
1.4 mod speed
1.4/2 +1 = 1.7 real fire speed
750 damage average
300 base dps
535 mod dps
441 real dps
12% speed (100% customisation)
2.23 base speed
1.23 mod speed
1.23/2 +1 = 1.6 real fire speed
750 damage average
336 base dps
609 mod dps
468 real dps
8% damage (60% customisation)
2.5 base speed
1.4 mod speed
1.4/2 +1 = 1.7 real fire speed
810 damage average
324 base dps
578 mod dps
476 real dps
Message Edited by Puttley on 07-21-2005 04:32 PM
Just a comment on the original calculations: I think you have the %DPS+ wrong.
Just one example (seems to apply to all columns)
Kav wrote:
Sample Weapons
DL44 XTKits
Base Speed1.95 A=Simple Tool Kit
Avg Dmg570 B=Fine Tool Kit
Base DPS292.31 C=Delicate Tool Kit OR CoreBooster
Pure Kits
Speed DL44 XT %DPS+ ABC
2% 298.27 1.0% 000
298.27 equals 102.038% of 292.31, hence the increase was 2% (plus some minor fraction).
But that supports the "speed is best" theory even more, because it shows you get a higher percentage out of a similar speed slice than of an equivalent damage slice.
I think Puttley has it right.
You can't just depend on the displayed DPS alone.
Because the fact of the matter is when you're in REAL actual fighting, you get diminishing returns asyour speed approaches 1.0.
The "DPS rules all" myth needs to be debunked. 
Message Edited by Puttley on 07-21-2005 05:18 PM