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Thread: Hybrid Titles...

obijkenob1
Sun Feb 13, 2005 1:45 pm
#14

Akiram speaks truth.
Bravo12
Sun Feb 13, 2005 7:43 pm
#15

Personally, I'd rather see the Smuggler title showing than have the smuggler yelling for slicing business in the town square, in front of a platoon of STs.



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SpinningCloud
Sun Feb 13, 2005 7:45 pm
#16

Bravo,


And I have, numerous times, suggested that a list of keywords said in the vicinty of law enforcement NPC would initiate an automatic scan.


We should have titles displaye NOR should we advertise in spacial offering illegal services without consequences.




Smuggler, Smuggler, Smuggler Pie, Two years of "Soon"(TM), a harsh bunch of lies.
Ask me a riddle and I reply: "Smuggler, Smuggler, Smuggler Pie"

Smuggler, Smuggler, Smuggler Pie, Dancers can't smuggle and neither can I.
Ask me a riddle and I reply: "Smuggler, Smuggler, Smuggler Pie."

Smuggler, Smuggler, Smuggler Pie, Why are there Jedi, I don't know why.
Ask me a riddle and I reply: "Smuggler, Smuggler, Smuggler Pie."

DrevenStrobe
Sun Feb 13, 2005 8:27 pm
#17






SpinningCloud wrote:

Bravo,


And I have, numerous times, suggested that a list of keywords said in the vicinty of law enforcement NPC would initiate an automatic scan.


We should have titles displaye NOR should we advertise in spacial offering illegal services without consequences.







It's not like this would be too hard...


The code's already in place. When's the last time you said "rebel" or "rebellion" around an Imperial NPC? Even an Imperial Colonel gets knocked out for that one...


Just add "slice" and "slicing" to the list and give CorSecs and other local law enforcers the power to give the one-hit mind incaps to the guys spamming it.




Dreven Strobe (Colonel) Tristyn Strobe
TKM / Master Pistoleer / Master Smuggler / Master Merchant
Imp FP Broker: 130c/FP Starsider Imp FP Broker: 130c/FP
Smuggler 'til the end...and then some.
"Everything I tell you is a lie. The truth is always bigger than the words we use to describe it."
SpinningCloud
Sun Feb 13, 2005 9:53 pm
#18

Dreven,


So you'll suggest that we get in trouble for showing titles, slicing, selling spice and saying keywords in the vicinity of law enforcement?




Smuggler, Smuggler, Smuggler Pie, Two years of "Soon"(TM), a harsh bunch of lies.
Ask me a riddle and I reply: "Smuggler, Smuggler, Smuggler Pie"

Smuggler, Smuggler, Smuggler Pie, Dancers can't smuggle and neither can I.
Ask me a riddle and I reply: "Smuggler, Smuggler, Smuggler Pie."

Smuggler, Smuggler, Smuggler Pie, Why are there Jedi, I don't know why.
Ask me a riddle and I reply: "Smuggler, Smuggler, Smuggler Pie."

DrevenStrobe
Sun Feb 13, 2005 9:59 pm
#19






SpinningCloud wrote:

Dreven,


So you'll suggest that we get in trouble for showing titles, slicing, selling spice and saying keywords in the vicinity of law enforcement?







Well...I'm not a spammer, so I'd love it as far as the keywords in spatial.


I'd still keep it so titles could be visible though, since when I do feel like slicing, I just make myself tagged and searchable. Of course, if they put in a system where the search feature didn't rely on your being tagged, I'd be just as happy to keep my tag hidden as well...




Dreven Strobe (Colonel) Tristyn Strobe
TKM / Master Pistoleer / Master Smuggler / Master Merchant
Imp FP Broker: 130c/FP Starsider Imp FP Broker: 130c/FP
Smuggler 'til the end...and then some.
"Everything I tell you is a lie. The truth is always bigger than the words we use to describe it."
Road-Kill21
Mon Feb 14, 2005 1:07 am
#20






fishbrains wrote:

let's try to keep politics out of the smuggler forum. Political arguments almost never end well..





I completely agree. I apologize for bringing it up. I am deleting that part of my post now.



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SpinningCloud
Mon Feb 14, 2005 9:11 am
#21

Dreven,


Did you get my suggestion for an 'informer' NPC in each city that would give the same results as the search function for smugglers?


That way any player could go to the informant, converse, and get a list of smugglers in the area without us having to display our titles.


I just think a big neon sign over our heads that reads the equivalent of "criminal" is kind of lame.




Smuggler, Smuggler, Smuggler Pie, Two years of "Soon"(TM), a harsh bunch of lies.
Ask me a riddle and I reply: "Smuggler, Smuggler, Smuggler Pie"

Smuggler, Smuggler, Smuggler Pie, Dancers can't smuggle and neither can I.
Ask me a riddle and I reply: "Smuggler, Smuggler, Smuggler Pie."

Smuggler, Smuggler, Smuggler Pie, Why are there Jedi, I don't know why.
Ask me a riddle and I reply: "Smuggler, Smuggler, Smuggler Pie."

JediArashi
Mon Feb 14, 2005 11:12 am
#22






SpinningCloud wrote:

Dreven,


Did you get my suggestion for an 'informer' NPC in each city that would give the same results as the search function for smugglers?


That way any player could go to the informant, converse, and get a list of smugglers in the area without us having to display our titles.


I just think a big neon sign over our heads that reads the equivalent of "criminal" is kind of lame.







My only issue with this is that it's a game function, not a gameworld function. If you've ever done any decent RPing in SWG then you've most likely noticed that most people still make introductions and ask "what do you do?" even though the info is floating above your head.


It's a function of the game, not something that translates into the environment of the gameworld. Just you can't honestly think that everyoen carries around a glowrod (light), a personalbio-scanner (radar), a personal faction detector (colored dots on the radar), and a commlink that constantly scan frequencies for your area (chat channels). These are all functions of the game for ease of use, we don't actually walk around anouncing what we are and what we do toanyone who glances in our direction.


Your other ideas about the "informant"and whatnot though....those are topnotch! Great stuff!





Arashi - The one and only "Agent Zero"

Proud member of the greatest community around....Smuggler for life!
SpinningCloud
Mon Feb 14, 2005 11:32 am
#23


Yeah, I understand that is the intent however I think for mostSmugglers it is used as a 'gameworld function'. I know I hate spamming slicing so I just leave Master Smuggler up so people can find me. That is using what you call a 'game function' as a 'gameworld function'.


Unfortunately most people don't RP and use this 'game function' as a means of playing their character. I guess removing this for Smugglers would just 'force' a little RP on the rest of the player base in that they could NOT search on smuggler and find you...nor could they look at the little signs over your head at starports to find you. They would have to actually find an NPC that would give the equivalent information about Smugglers without the Smuggler having to put their title up.


Like it or not the title is more often used as a 'gameplay function' than anything else. In our case it detracts from gameplay IMO.






Smuggler, Smuggler, Smuggler Pie, Two years of "Soon"(TM), a harsh bunch of lies.
Ask me a riddle and I reply: "Smuggler, Smuggler, Smuggler Pie"

Smuggler, Smuggler, Smuggler Pie, Dancers can't smuggle and neither can I.
Ask me a riddle and I reply: "Smuggler, Smuggler, Smuggler Pie."

Smuggler, Smuggler, Smuggler Pie, Why are there Jedi, I don't know why.
Ask me a riddle and I reply: "Smuggler, Smuggler, Smuggler Pie."

maxtheusher
Mon Feb 14, 2005 11:39 am
#24

I actually had an idea like this a while back,though I suppose mine was slightly more evolutionary. My thought was to modify the existing skill "onions" so they were no longer profs but skill sets. To achieve a certain title, you would combine certain skill sets. Like one skill set would include criminal trees and Law enforcement trees. Different combinations of this tree w/ say, certain business trees, or certain combat trees, or even Combat support trees would result in a smuggler or a BH, or a special agent, etc.



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LaughingWolf
Mon Feb 14, 2005 12:14 pm
#25

I would not make impossible for a Smuggler to show off their title, just have them deal with some consequences...

But right now, we have no other way to let others know who we are. No underworld contacts to leave our name with. So leaving the tag up is actually the less offencive way to do it right now. Certainly less an hassle then spamming.

But if I had SOME immersive in game way to advertise (like your NPC informant suggestion),I would gladly put my tag down.



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SpinningCloud
Mon Feb 14, 2005 12:31 pm
#26

Oh yeah Wolf, I agree it should be optional...with leaving it up taking a nice fat risk.




Smuggler, Smuggler, Smuggler Pie, Two years of "Soon"(TM), a harsh bunch of lies.
Ask me a riddle and I reply: "Smuggler, Smuggler, Smuggler Pie"

Smuggler, Smuggler, Smuggler Pie, Dancers can't smuggle and neither can I.
Ask me a riddle and I reply: "Smuggler, Smuggler, Smuggler Pie."

Smuggler, Smuggler, Smuggler Pie, Why are there Jedi, I don't know why.
Ask me a riddle and I reply: "Smuggler, Smuggler, Smuggler Pie."

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