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Thread: petition to NOT 'fix' concussive shot until the smuggler revamp

Arsani
Fri May 27, 2005 10:33 am
#14

It doesn't break anyone. It forces them to think, in order to counter the move. There are counters. Several. If you can't/won't use them, thats your problem.



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Saarek
Fri May 27, 2005 10:44 am
#15






Kaizer88 wrote:





Alpha_Bits wrote:

I apologize for the spoon comment. I was out of line.


There is no spoon.


Simply put, why 'fix'/nerf/fix/take away one of our skills because it's especially useful while at the same time NOT fixing all of our other obviously broken skills?


You don't have to answer, Kaizer... this thread is to NOT 'fix' it, you have your own thread calling for the 'fix'.


/disguise1


/sign


/disguise2


/sign




But at the same time, this skill of yours breaks other people. Its current state is way overpowered when people actually use it.







OMFG this skill 'breaks' other people? How about FORCE AURA you fool. Think about all the "unfair powers" a jedi has, and then tell me that one freaking special that CAN be broken with the Retreat ability is oging to negatively impact you?


Alright mate, just wait until you start to see your numbers get sliced down a few notches. The Jedi's time is soon coming to an end. Prepare your bounty hunter char to get agitated by the smugglers when his time comes too.







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Endjinneer
Fri May 27, 2005 10:51 am
#16

i wish people would stop writing the j**i word on this forum its now officially a name associated with whiners who try to nerf other peoples professions to get their i win buttons

you write that name you are inviting them to respond and nobody wants that do they?




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Kaizer88
Fri May 27, 2005 2:28 pm
#17

Nerf jedi to oblivion for all I care. Only got the glowstick for pvp pre CU.


This isnt about a profession vs profession nerf fest; its about a special that in its current form preforms differently from how its written, and also has insane power in both PVP and PVE.



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EnderUK
Fri May 27, 2005 2:59 pm
#18






Kaizer88 wrote:

Please dont use the jedi arguement. I prefer playing my MCM/MBH these days both while pvping/PVEing, so its hardly a case of "jedi want you nerfed"


I simply cannot believe a 40 sec root that can be immediatly re-applied once it wears off and that cant be broken/cured can be intentional, especially when you factor in the description of the special itself.


The only reason there hasnt been an outcry for this yet is because people are still getting accustomed to the CU. Mark my words, when you see more and more riflemen pick up Msmuggler, and more and more concussive shot roots being thrown around the pvp battlefields, you'll hear the cries alot louder.


Assuming its not fixed by then ofcourse.





bwuahahaha I'm the flavor of next month I'd love it to work as a paralysis, keep it as the root it currently isor make it a paralysis.



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Wolph
Fri May 27, 2005 3:28 pm
#19

Can I have a credit for every post on the boards where Melee_profession_01 cries nerf on a Ranged_Profession_01 special...please?


"I'm rooted, I can't attack"

Q1: Do you not have Saber Throw?...If they're in range to root with a pistol they're probly in Throw range.attack first, KD from Throw will give you time to get in melee.

Q2: Do you not have Force Valor? ...With valor up I can take 3 squads (42) of random spawn Stormtroopers with Valor up and very few shots get through.
Q3: Why'd you bring a knife to a gunfight? ...Melee (Non-Jedi) SHOULD be at a disadvantage in a blaster battle, deal with it, stratigize, adapt.

Full template Jedi have so many ways to overcome this it's not funny... no, one or even probably 2 BH can take down a full temp Jedi unless his template is really bad and has no clue what he's doing. Root or not.


Face the fact that Melee professions need to actualy THINK and react now instead of running up and hitting the Dizzy/KD "I win" button.


Why SOE even put in so many melee in a Star Wars game I'll never understand.



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TheWok
Fri May 27, 2005 4:12 pm
#20

I hate crap like this, but I'll bite...

/nosign

A 40 second root is useful. But I'd rather have a 40-second mez that will allow me to better serve my group by removing mobs from the battle for a short time. This needs to be fixed ASAP, and I'll continue to post that it doesn't work as intended in every issues thread until it's fixed.



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TheDarkTrumpet
Fri May 27, 2005 4:24 pm
#21

I'm not going to sign this either. The reason is because concussion shot is one of the only useful things that smugglers get. most of our specials don't do a whole lot in battle, nor do we dish out the DPS that almost every other profession can do (including melee). While I agree that this shot may be a bit problematic in PvP - perhaps their fix, which is already in place, will work fine. As it stands, each time that it's applied to an individual before they die, the time they are rooted decreases. Also, it doesn't always hold at 30 seconds, in fact today I had a critter jump 60m to me after about 5s of having concussion shot active.

Jedi, right now, are way too overpowered. I saw 4-5 imp level 80s take on a jedi who was a knight. The jedi puts on aura and runs and swims..I watched the battle, and eventually he leaves the water on his bike, the imps catch back up, and he just kills all of them, pretty fast too. Jedi as it stands are way too overpowered - both in PvE and PvP.

Another example was on kaash. There is a cave that many jedi like to run through. 2 others and myself barely can get through the tunnels, and a jedi offers for us to follow them through. We follow this jedi, and everything and then some is agroed on them and they just keep healing themselves. They didn't die, or get incapped, yet when 1-2 critters (note around 10 were attacking the jedi at one time) I would be incapped pretty quickly. I'm a level 80, with pretty darn good defenses. Just because something comes up for the none jedi - please don't yell nerf.



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ApollyonTB
Fri May 27, 2005 4:42 pm
#22

A jedi said its too powerful? Then make it more powerful....say 45 minutes? andthey cant heal...cant do anything...thier screen goes black, and when it comes back they have a lil message saying "Im sorry you are now perma dead"



Let the Jedi purge begin!!!





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TheDarkTrumpet
Fri May 27, 2005 4:49 pm
#23

Personally I would just like to see the jedi who show off, and duel in the star ports gone. The ones who RP their part, dress in normal clothes around others, do their best to stay off the terms, and play as a jedi in that era should play should say with their jedi - they deserve it.

I don't have a jedi, and I feel there are a few too many jedi as it stands. I'm working toward jedi, but plan to RP the part, not go healing people in starports, duel everyone possible, be seen with massive numbers of people.



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ApollyonTB
Fri May 27, 2005 4:51 pm
#24

man, there were 8 jedi swinging thier mini-mags around in the C-net startport today...



/shakeshead



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TheDarkTrumpet
Fri May 27, 2005 4:54 pm
#25



ApollyonTB wrote:
man, there were 8 jedi swinging thier mini-mags around in the C-net startport today...
/shakeshead




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yeah, that bothers me too. I see a lot of that kind of stuff. Jedi shouldn't remain invisible per say, but should do their best not to be seen by as many people as possible (of course hunting with close friends)



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CapnKate
Fri May 27, 2005 5:56 pm
#26

Even turning up in broad public view now and then wouldn't bother me, if done right. But most of the saber-waving, robe-wearing Cnet crowd don't apply to "done right". It's pretty crazy.

I keep running into Dark Jedi "roleplayers" in the Eisley cantina. I say "roleplayers" because they're really just there to pick on people and be uber. And they justify it as RPing Dark Jedi. Not more than a few times, I've wished some Decent Light jedi would step up to protect the innocent and helples and smack them the **** down. I could get behind that. Heck, Obi-Wan did that.



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