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Thread: The New Concussion Shot?

Saarek
Mon Jun 20, 2005 10:56 am
#14






Nezodon wrote:





maxtheusher wrote:





Nezodon wrote:





AngusMacGregor wrote:






MaleusGaryn wrote:

BAH!!! *Flings poo at everyone until someone replies on topic*


/mumble damn smugglers... only care about pie and beer...






And your point would be?





Pie and beer go well with poo







Pie turns into poo eventually.




Have it with Guiness and you can speed up the process





ROFL. So true.





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Knightcrest
Mon Jun 20, 2005 11:04 am
#15






Vodo-Kai wrote:
WOW, when did the smuggler forums become the GAT?






When we get bored of waiting to smuggle for two years...



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AngusMacGregor
Mon Jun 20, 2005 11:04 am
#16


What he said.




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My account payment has been moved to a long term implementation.
Vodo-Kai
Mon Jun 20, 2005 11:07 am
#17






Knightcrest wrote:






Vodo-Kai wrote:
WOW, when did the smuggler forums become the GAT?






When we get bored of waiting to smuggle for two years...





K, I'll give you that. I've been waiting too. So, continue.... *Hands you some b33r and pi3 to continue with.*



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Knightcrest
Mon Jun 20, 2005 11:09 am
#18






Vodo-Kai wrote:





Knightcrest wrote:






Vodo-Kai wrote:
WOW, when did the smuggler forums become the GAT?






When we get bored of waiting to smuggle for two years...





K, I'll give you that. I've been waiting too. So, continue.... *Hands you some b33r and pi3 to continue with.*











Colonel Valdan Nightwind
Captain of the Wrath of Night
Elder Smuggler/Master Pilot
Kylin Nightwind - Jedi/Alliance Ace & Tyrin Nightwind - TnT Engineering 3781, 4123 outside Doaba Guerfel, Corellia
JasMoStryder
Mon Jun 20, 2005 11:14 am
#19



Nezodon wrote:


maxtheusher wrote:


Nezodon wrote:


AngusMacGregor wrote:


MaleusGaryn wrote:

BAH!!! *Flings poo at everyone until someone replies on topic*

/mumble damn smugglers... only care about pie and beer...



And your point would be?



Pie and beer go well with poo





Pie turns into poo eventually.


Have it with Guiness and you can speed up the process



How about Guiness Pie, now if you could get that to work, powerful indeed would you be...



CRAIG LOWELL


CHILASTRIAN MASTER TROLL


Saarek
Mon Jun 20, 2005 11:58 am
#20

I'm sure Guinnes pie would work... I make beer pie (I tried it and it tasted oh so yummy) and I'm sure I could subsitute a lager for an Ale.


I'll give it a go and see how she turns out.





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"The Hawtness is my ally, and a powerful ally it is." RIP SAAREK CARVATHOS :: AUG 4, 2005
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S A A R E K "SIR WANKSALOT" C A R V A T H O S _Starsider. && _Corbantis.
M A S T E R S C O U N D R E L I AM JACK'S IGNORED PROFESSION
C O A L I T I O N O F T H E L O S T S M U G G L E R S .

Saarek
Mon Jun 20, 2005 1:06 pm
#21






Gaitan wrote:





AngusMacGregor wrote:






MaleusGaryn wrote:

BAH!!! *Flings poo at everyone until someone replies on topic*


/mumble damn smugglers... only care about pie and beer...






And your point would be?






Woah, and here I thought last Friday was Smuggler Sarcasm Day! Obviously held over by popular demand.








not held over, just par for the course is all.





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"The Hawtness is my ally, and a powerful ally it is." RIP SAAREK CARVATHOS :: AUG 4, 2005
------
S A A R E K "SIR WANKSALOT" C A R V A T H O S _Starsider. && _Corbantis.
M A S T E R S C O U N D R E L I AM JACK'S IGNORED PROFESSION
C O A L I T I O N O F T H E L O S T S M U G G L E R S .

AngusMacGregor
Mon Jun 20, 2005 1:43 pm
#22

For me, every day is Smuggler Sarcasm Day.




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DEAD SMUGGLER - KILLED BY LACK OF CONTENT AND COMMUNICATION
I am Jack's ignored profession.
My account payment has been moved to a long term implementation.
Gaitan
Mon Jun 20, 2005 1:44 pm
#23






AngusMacGregor wrote:
For me, every day is Smuggler Sarcasm Day.






Really? We couldn't tell.






Gaitan
Master Spy
Elder Smuggler, Imperial Colonel.
AngusMacGregor
Mon Jun 20, 2005 2:10 pm
#24

That's because you're... well... kinda "slow", if ya know what I mean.




"C O L O N E L A N G U S" M A C G R E G O R
DEAD SMUGGLER - KILLED BY LACK OF CONTENT AND COMMUNICATION
I am Jack's ignored profession.
My account payment has been moved to a long term implementation.
Saarek
Mon Jun 20, 2005 2:19 pm
#25






AngusMacGregor wrote:
That's because you're... well... kinda "slow", if ya know what I mean.






Bit of an understatement there I think.





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"The Hawtness is my ally, and a powerful ally it is." RIP SAAREK CARVATHOS :: AUG 4, 2005
------
S A A R E K "SIR WANKSALOT" C A R V A T H O S _Starsider. && _Corbantis.
M A S T E R S C O U N D R E L I AM JACK'S IGNORED PROFESSION
C O A L I T I O N O F T H E L O S T S M U G G L E R S .

Graxul
Mon Jun 20, 2005 2:27 pm
#26


Panic shot is supposed to delay the target, according to its in game description. Yet instead it is currently a -10 attack speed debuff at panic shot and -15 attack speed sebuff at improved panic shot. The attack does 1 point of damage on lairs and does not break on damage. Low Blow also is an attack speed debuff but it is more comparable to combat medic's thyroid rupture. Thyroid rupture,panic shot, and low blow does stack on top of each other but it only affects the target's speed modifiers, so at best it will only slow the attack speed of the target down to the speed of the target's weapon(unmodified attack speed).


If panic shot worked like it used to prior to the CU but without the long reuse timer and broke upon damage it would be more similar to how disarming shot, improved disarming shot, startle shot, improved startle shot and advanced startle shot's current delay effect. I find it ironic that the first ranged delay attack (warcry is the melee version) no longer is a delay attack. The current small duration delay attacks are useful because they still do some damage and if used continuously (spammed or used as an auto attack) will allow you to spam one target and make them unable to attack (doesn't stop them however so they can still move)...however ifany damage is done to it by your teammates or a dot while you spam the target with disarming shot or startle attack variatons, then itwill turn off the delay.


Disarming shot also disables the target's auto attack forcing them to reselect an attack. Advanced startle shot also is used as a position changing attack forcing the target to move up to the next highest position (if prone then moves to kneeling, if kneeling makes them stand)...advanced startle shot has a 5 second delay timerthat can allow you to keep the targetfrom attacking until your action recharges enough to fire a more damaging attack (or until you can fire a better attack such as a root or snare). I've found advanced startle shot to be the most effective so far in regards to being a delay attack and wish that improved panic shot worked in a similar way, but without the position changing effect obviously. As is I find panic shot as an attack speed debuff to be very ineffective and its current effect to be virtually unnoticeable. So most of the time I rarely if ever use it and I don't keep it on my main hotkey bar for my attacks. Low blow is far more useful in regards to being an attack speed debuff...but attack speed debuffs don't slow the target's attack speed down enough to be very effective either. I think low blow would be more usefull if it worked as a ranged knockdown.


As a side note our only attack as a smuggler and our only advanced ability is advanced reckless shot. According to its description it is supposed to work like warning shot but actually do some damage. In exchange for doing some damage it puts a defense debuff on us as well as the target. It also is supposed to have a larger defense debuff put on the target with each improved or advanced version. That is how it is described to work. However, in its current implementation it only gives us a defense debuff of -80 (same defense debuff as warning shot does to its target) and doesn't debuff the target's (attacker's)defense at all. As a consequence of this I'm really not sure what the improved or advanced version of reckless shot does. The defense debuff to ourselves makes the actual damage of reckless shot to be useless since it would be far better to use a different profession's attack abilities much more useful. Because of this I don't keep reckless shot on my hotkey bar either. It would be more usefull to us if advanced reckless shot gave a defense debuff of -80 to target and a smaller defense debuff was given to us...say -40 instead of its current -80.

Message Edited by Graxul on 06-20-2005 05:32 PM



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