Smuggler Archive
Thread: Rant on getting griefed for faction pricing *sigh*
SwenLaransa wrote:
I wouldn't call that greifing myself. Now if he said ok, got you to go overt to transfer, didn't pay you, then got some opposing S.F. players to keep you kded and paralized while they took screenshots of teabagging you and send them to your mom, even of you're 30, then that would be greifing
Charge whatever you want. Your price really isn't out of line especially if you don't want to be bothered, but are still willing. My prices are set simply based on how much I don't feel like doing whatever it is. If I'm S.F., right there, and have all the faction they want on me it goes down in price real fast.
Thats whay you always require payment up front before going SF.
Heck, I require payment up front because I can't afford that much myself!
shfire wrote:
SwenLaransa wrote:
I wouldn't call that greifing myself. Now if he said ok, got you to go overt to transfer, didn't pay you, then got some opposing S.F. players to keep you kded and paralized while they took screenshots of teabagging you and send them to your mom, even of you're 30, then that would be greifing
Charge whatever you want. Your price really isn't out of line especially if you don't want to be bothered, but are still willing. My prices are set simply based on how much I don't feel like doing whatever it is. If I'm S.F., right there, and have all the faction they want on me it goes down in price real fast.
Thats whay you always require payment up front before going SF.
JoKen_Jash wrote:
maxtheusher wrote:
I admit it, I'm a horrible monster. I sell for 95, sometimes even 85
But then again, I almost NEVER sell, and when I do, it's to guildies or previously established clients who make selling worth it.
I thought you sold for 110...It's really the deep space grinders that are ripping everyone off at 90 cr per point.
They're one of the reasons I go Overt in space. Go Overt, do a patrol of a few systems, then land. If I come across any Overt player, I'll do my best to drop them, getting hate-tells from people whining that they want to grind faction(and that I'm apparently griefing them or exploiting because I won, even against the UBAR Jedi Fighter) is just a bonus.
JoKen_Jash wrote:
maxtheusher wrote:
I admit it, I'm a horrible monster. I sell for 95, sometimes even 85
But then again, I almost NEVER sell, and when I do, it's to guildies or previously established clients who make selling worth it.
I thought you sold for 110...It's really the deep space grinders that are ripping everyone off at 50 cr per point.
Fixed!
Yeah, I heard about that. My friend got taken for a ride by one of them. Yes, she should have talked to me first, but this guy made it sould like she was buying some RARE loot. I have nearly 1000 of them.
Heaven help them if I find out who it was... 
Shaan'ti Hokai (Kauri) 
I sell it at like 100-110. I do this cause space grinders can undersell you. I usually have spare Faction left over from space on me. So I use my spareFP to cut costs for the customer but still come out ahead.
DoMakk wrote:
I'm running late (as usual) out of Mos Eisleyto a hunting party with friends on another planet when an MBH in the starport asks if I sell faction.
*sigh* I tell him yes...figuring I can probably do this pretty quickly out of Bestine and not inconvenience my friends too much more.
He asks what I charge? I tell him 150 credits per faction point.
He says WHAT that's really expensive you sure charge a lot more than the other guys.
*Incidentall, I got my price from our own NickHeel/N'Joh...whenever I have a smuggling question in-game, I go to him...he's my mentor on such things.*
I say Fine...you don't have to do business with me. Go to the other guy. You're paying for my time, the inconvenience you're putting me through, the missions I could be running to make money.
He gets sarcastic and says oh sorry to take up your precious time and be such a problem, karma's gonna bite you in the ass, etc.. ( I am really surprised he didn't whip out the b-word)
Was I out of line? And *am* I charging too much for faction? I just made Lt Colonel, I'm Imperial, Twi'lek.
So apparently the guy eventually catched up that you were selling to yourself.
Why do people say that 150 is high? 2/3 of that cost is spent in acquiring and transferring those FP. I can't think of any other profession that would find that a suitable profit margin.
Anyone who needs to buy FP should be able to afford this - I don't want to hear someone whine that they can't afford 7700 FP to bio-link the faction armor they just spent a million on... these are the same jerks who don't tip the pizza guy because they don't have any money left after all the food they ordered.
My advice to smugglers: Charge what you feel your time is worth and don't let someone hassle you about it. Explain your price and if they give you a hard time, raise it. I don't buckle under to people who want to waste my time, and if they waste it they're going to pay extra.
And smugglers - don't undercut your colleagues. It may make you some money in the short run but ultimately it is harmful to the profession and it creates an artificially low expectation of pricing. Let's not do to ourselves what the Architects did.
I'll decide if I want to give someone a break because I know them/am friendly to their guild/feel generous that day/etc. I'm not in this for charity - and I don't see why I should be charitable to someone who's being stingy. It's not as if these people shower us with credits for no reason - why should we give away our services in return?
People who complain about my prices are cordially invited to shop elsewhere - and I'm not fooled. If the "other guy" could hook you up so cheap, why aren't you buying from him? Because you can't at the moment... and it's a fact of business that convenience is a premium.
In the old slicing sytem, I had a way to shut people like this up very quickly: "If you're interested in a lower price, I can do it without the clamp - but you pay no matter what result I get." Perhaps the best thing you can do when a customer balks at FP pricing is point at the recruiter and say "OK then, YOU talk to the guy and see how much he'll sell it to you directly for"
