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tralita_tusnami

Thu Aug 11, 2005 11:29 am

veela

hmmmm not very positive, but kinda funny

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Tralita Tusnami
Bria server
MASTER SMUGLER/BOUNTY HUNTER/PISTOLER

Jawa-Sith-Lord

Thu Aug 11, 2005 11:44 am

#15

I don't view the introduction of smuggling as added content or the lack of smuggling as a bug. I look at it more as unimplemented content more akin to player cities, mounts and vehicles at game launch. Smuggling of some sort should have been in the game at launch. It is implicit in the title Smuggler.

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tralita_tusnami

Thu Aug 11, 2005 11:55 am

#16

makris

actualy i play TRALITA TSUNAMI on the bria server, but was kinda drunk when I made my forum name and misspelled it, thats the sign of a true smuggler, to drunk to spell her own name, but ready to fight anytime.

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Some aspire to be the best, Thunderheart aspires to be just like me
"I may look like an Ewok, but I'm all Wookie where it counts, baby."

Tralita Tusnami
Bria server
MASTER SMUGLER/BOUNTY HUNTER/PISTOLER

Makris

Thu Aug 11, 2005 11:58 am

#17

tralita_tusnami wrote:
makris

actualy i play TRALITA TSUNAMI on the bria server, but was kinda drunk when I made my forum name and misspelled it, thats the sign of a true smuggler, to drunk to spell her own name, but ready to fight anytime.

That's a good one

Thomen

Thu Aug 11, 2005 1:02 pm

#18

*shoots Lithium Boards*

Message Edited by Thomen on 08-11-2005 04:03 PM

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Makris

Thu Aug 11, 2005 1:03 pm

#19

TashunkaSapa wrote:

It's my wish as well - but CLEARLY it's not the wish of the Developers, because otherwise they'd be doing that.

It's easy for them to lie to people who lie to themselves - I'd love to see some evidence of what impact your "think positive" mindset has really had on the game. We still don't have the revamp that was promised two years ago.

But don't worry, Tink! Think happy thoughts and it won't matter!

Sorry, I tried that approach - all that does is reinforce to them that they can continue with "business as usual" because there will always be someone who will accept what they're given and refuse to demand anything further.

There is much evidence of contructive ideas coming to fruition in the game. Shall I refer to the Combat Upgrade? I know it wasn't well received upon delivery, but if it weren't for correspondants and players like you and me, that delivery would have never happened.

So, I ask not only you or anyone else, what evidence is there that can prove that flaming and trolling has delivered better content?

I may seem to be Peter Pan to you, but I consider it adding ideas. Maybe I'll lose hope like many players. Either way, it's Star Wars, and being a true Star Wars nerd, I'm going to do whatever I can to make this thing work (whether or not my voice is heard).

HOTDOG

Thu Aug 11, 2005 1:14 pm

#20

Ya'll know me.

I calls it like I sees it.

I've been chomping at this revamp for a year and a half. Providing ideas, reading concepts, hoping, waiting, being understanding as others got attention before us (even though we were promised beforehand)- I've played the nice guy, the reasonable guy, the facts guy- Now, I'm comin' with the hard assed truth.

The only way we are going to see any attention is if suddenly a s-load of the player base takes up Smuggler and demands it.

You see- the bottomline is numbers. Green numbers. And the Jedi have them.

SWG is a kick ass game but SWG is also on the ropes- I'm saying this just looking at lists- and looking at servers. They need to keep people playing to keep the game alive and making a mistake in choosing the direction they are taking could kill it.

Now, I don't know for sure but I'm thinking that they are seriously looking into where this game is going to go.

Just by putting together some of their latest quotes and comments- they ARE thinking of having player bounties for everyone.

They are trying to introduce a new FRS system.

They DID have plans for us to smuggle (whether GMs departure has killed any of that is unknown).

Tiggs never said they WERE'NT going to give it to us.

The bottom line is...It doesn't matter what we do. We can be nice. We can be be defiant but it wouldn't change anything.

I'm not being pessimistic. I CAN say that they HAVE given us things we asked for. A lot of them actually- but I'm willing to bet it was because of convenience as they changed other things and not because they were going out of their way for Smugglers- or Rangers- or Dancers.

We have little to NO control over what they do because they do for the numbers and Jedi ARE the numbers. And they get more numbers everyday because everything is geared to Jedi.

The average player that joins SWG today does so to be a Jedi.

So SOE is going to suck at that Jedi teet- cause that's all they got.

Now, I still have hope that we will get Smuggling- and soon (the real soon, not that soon(tm) crap) but hope is hope. And a fact is a fact.

I think SOE is really carefully considering what to do with SWG. They took a risk with the CU. A needed risk. I don't know if it paid off but I don't think they are anxious to do anything big like that anytime soon with out serious debate.

Not that Smuggling missions would be that big- but they have the potential to be huge (player bounties).

Even something like Jedi free servers could be bad in the long run as every non Jedi would go there leaving the Jedi with nothing to do but grind Jedi- how fast do you think they would leave the game? How long do you think the game would last? It might pay off- but that's a big risk-

All in all, it really has very little with how we Smugglers act. So if you are angry (and you should be) then say so. Try to do it in a positive factual way if you want to be heard- but DO SAY SO.

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tralita_tusnami

Thu Aug 11, 2005 1:15 pm

#21

do you not think that i have not waited and anticipated OUR revamp just the same as everyother smuggler on every other server? if you think that im just a respec smuggler you got another thing comming.* sigh*

For me the last 3 days have been intresting, loging in and seeing emails from TIGGS, THUNDERHEART, and other smugglers...

But it has gotten me thinking, why, for the lastyear ive seen a downward trend in this forum tords the negative. I have seen this same downward trend sence publish 9, conicidence?

i think not, but i do believe that POSTING CONSTRUCTING POST IN PROMINATE PLACES WILL HELP for example if they have a bug thread, post a bug if you have one, and leave a polite message AFTER THE BUG THREAD"CANT FIND THE SMUGGLER MISSIONS ON THIS SERVER" "SMUGGLERS WANT TO SMUGGLE" "ANY IDEA WHEN SLICING TOOLS WILL STACK"

There threads are well there threads, and personaly i like the line from braveheart:

'the trouble with scotland is its full of scotts, if we cant force them out well breed them out"

we can change this to our advantage:

"the trouble with bug threads is there full of buggs, if we cant force them to help us we will be more than willing to post bugs and spout our "PRO SMUGGLER MESSAGE ON EVERYTHING""

the farther and more vocal we are, the better, but we must play by there rules, trust me 7 day offence for a post is waiting if you dont post by there rules on there threads.

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Some aspire to be the best, Thunderheart aspires to be just like me
"I may look like an Ewok, but I'm all Wookie where it counts, baby."

Tralita Tusnami
Bria server
MASTER SMUGLER/BOUNTY HUNTER/PISTOLER

TashunkaSapa

Thu Aug 11, 2005 1:15 pm

#22

Makris wrote:

There is much evidence of contructive ideas coming to fruition in the game. Shall I refer to the Combat Upgrade?

You mean, the OTHER major overhaul that they continued to push back and break promises about? The one that was only 1 1/2 years late instead of 2?

Yeah, I tried the nice approach with that - didn't help. Then I QUIT until they delivered what they promised. If all we are is dollars on the bottom line to them, then that's the only way we're going to get through to them. You're deluding yourself if you think they want cooperation. If that's what truly mattered to them, would they have deleted the entire concept thread for the Smuggler revamp? Of course not, they are going to do it their way (if they ever do it at all), regardless of whether you like it or not, and regardless of whether you are "nice" or not.

So again I will remind you that, in order for compassion and forbearance to be valuable, they must not be squandered upon those to whom such concepts are meaningless. I'll be "nice" to people who actually deserve it, thanks.

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Kelko

Thu Aug 11, 2005 1:16 pm

#23

Makris wrote:

TashunkaSapa wrote:

It's my wish as well - but CLEARLY it's not the wish of the Developers, because otherwise they'd be doing that.

It's easy for them to lie to people who lie to themselves - I'd love to see some evidence of what impact your "think positive" mindset has really had on the game. We still don't have the revamp that was promised two years ago.

But don't worry, Tink! Think happy thoughts and it won't matter!

Sorry, I tried that approach - all that does is reinforce to them that they can continue with "business as usual" because there will always be someone who will accept what they're given and refuse to demand anything further.

There is much evidence of contructive ideas coming to fruition in the game. Shall I refer to the Combat Upgrade? I know it wasn't well received upon delivery, but if it weren't for correspondants and players like you and me, that delivery would have never happened.

So, I ask not only you or anyone else, what evidence is there that can prove that flaming and trolling has delivered better content? Can you say Jedi?

I may seem to be Peter Pan to you, but I consider it adding ideas. Maybe I'll lose hope like many players. Either way, it's Star Wars, and being a true Star Wars nerd, I'm going to do whatever I can to make this thing work (whether or not my voice is heard).

Anyway, I respect that you can still maintain after two years. I also am a Star Wars nerd, and it is becauseI am that I get so pissed off at the Devs and SOE, becauseI absolutely hate what they have been doing to this game (or maybe a better pointwould be not doing). My main argument is that we have been killing them with kindness for two years and we are no closer to our goal than when the game was launched. We could all go around and around in this thread, there are valid points on both sides.I respect my fellow Smuggler brethren regardless of their stand on the issue. maybe between the two sides we can accomplish something. I just can't continue to act like everything's still warm and fuzzy, it's not in my nature, andI hafta remain true to myself.

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Makris

Thu Aug 11, 2005 1:21 pm

#24

Kelko wrote:

Makris wrote:

TashunkaSapa wrote:

It's my wish as well - but CLEARLY it's not the wish of the Developers, because otherwise they'd be doing that.

It's easy for them to lie to people who lie to themselves - I'd love to see some evidence of what impact your "think positive" mindset has really had on the game. We still don't have the revamp that was promised two years ago.

But don't worry, Tink! Think happy thoughts and it won't matter!

Sorry, I tried that approach - all that does is reinforce to them that they can continue with "business as usual" because there will always be someone who will accept what they're given and refuse to demand anything further.

So, I ask not only you or anyone else, what evidence is there that can prove that flaming and trolling has delivered better content? Can you say Jedi?

It's hard to argue that about Jedi, but my gut feeling is, and I have no more evidence than yourself is that LucasArts still has a say on what direction this game takes. Being that the most recent movies have been centered around the Jedi, I would bet my entire savings that LucasArts pulled for Jedi to the front of the list.

Makris

Thu Aug 11, 2005 1:25 pm

#25

Just another point to remember. The more we flame players, devs or new comers, the less Smugglers we get on our side, and the lower the voice we have in the community. What we need is large booming voice!

Kelko

Thu Aug 11, 2005 1:27 pm

#26

Makris wrote:

It's hard to argue that about Jedi, but my gut feeling is, and I have no more evidence than yourself is that LucasArts still has a say on what direction this game takes. Being that the most recent movies have been centered around the Jedi, I would bet my entire savings that LucasArts pulled for Jedi to the front of the list.

That could very well be true, only the Devs know for sure. Hell maybe I'll just give in and grind Jedi.....

[dives behind sig]

Just kidding!

SWG+PUB 19+CU+NGE = Crap

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