Smuggler Archive
Thread: Test Center Update NO SMUGGLER LOVE. Again.
SpinningCloud wrote:
Can't believe how impatient some people can be!
'Soon' (TM) just isn't good enough huh?
Smuggler has been waiting for 2 years now and still no revamp yet jedi have had 2 publish's dedicated to them not to mention that publish 19 is going to be around jedi so i do think this is a problem.
I cant believe i pay to play this stupid thing not even a word on how its coming on or whats happening or what changes they have made to the original concept.
FACT: Smugglers are considered unimportant compared to jedi it would seem, despite alot of game breaking issues coming with jedi
FACT: Smugglers cant do their job and smuggle
FACT: Smuggler specials suck when compared to most professions
FACT: 2 years of failed promises and "soon" is not good enough
FACT: From my perspective alot of our moves have been subject to the nerf bat and that is exactly how im seeing the up coming changes to concussion shot, jedi ask for a profession to get changed it gets changed and jedi have been asking for this to be changed which reinforces my point
FACT: One of our very few smugglerlike skills, i use smugglerlike loosely, slicing is messed up right now and the word "soon" doesnt inspire me with any confidence
FACT: I pay to play a smuggler, yes i have a jedi aswell but she is my shipwright so she doesnt count, i came back to smuggler with the excitement that the revamp will be "soon" only now to i realise that "soon" is just a way of shutting people up
FACT: As a smuggler i find myself frequently logging in for 5 minutes realising their is nothing to do and logging straight back out again, space only holds limited appeal and most quest ive either done or they require a group of jedi to babywalk you through it
FACT: Simple bit of communication from how our revamp is coming would help alot to see movement the only documents i see are from months back
After 2 years and a lot of work on jedi at the expense of other professions like ranger, squad leader, entertainer, droid engineer, and of course smuggler the only answer on a revamp is soon!?!?!?!?!?!?
Heres something to SOE jedi will not be happy till they have 500sp and can kill any other player in a single shot whilst being able to fire laser beams from there eyes. You can never make the majority of the Jedi happy this is why they are constantly being balanced and readjusted because it can not be done, in an MMORPG and Alphaclass will cause too much unbalancing to the game and the people attracted to this profession alot are those who want to "pwn" the noob and wont be happy till they have an easy time and being indestructable.
Isnt it at least time a red name came in here and told us what is going on i think that would be a very big start because as someone who has made a concious choice to play as a "norm" it would be nice to get looked at inbetween all your fix's to jedi and nerfing of those jedi cant beat.
Pure us gettign shafted. Maybe if we turned our forum to nothing but whining and arguements we could get noticed. Heck we could include SL and commandos in on this and just argue 3 profs until we win?>
TH visited farstar, and surprise surprise toally ignored my smuggler questions which were raised there, got more important things like showing us a screenie of his character, so we understand he plays hte game too. #
Obviously he doesnt play a smuggler.
Xoreshear wrote:
AngusMacGregor wrote:
Yeah, that was a gamebreaker for me, watching Jedi duel each other at the starports without their special animations.
Not to mention the cantinas.
also not to mention everywhere you step.
i think when a jedi dies, there's a cloner bug that produces TWO jedi. 
SpinningCloud wrote:
Can't believe how impatient some people can be!
'Soon' (TM) just isn't good enough huh?
Seems more like they want it "Now"™...
Nicolas_Frost wrote:
SpinningCloud wrote:
Can't believe how impatient some people can be!
'Soon' (TM) just isn't good enough huh?
Seems more like they want it "Now"™...
Actually, we should have had it "Two Years Ago™".
Ok. Someone up there said we need to chill.
Let me say this.
I was just disappointed man. So very disappointed. Nothing we can do about it, but hey, worse comes to worse - I'll take a trip to the strip joint and get re-introduced to old friend Alcohol. I havent talked with him in over (1, 2, 3...) 4 hours.
LOL.
I think you take my point - theres other things one can do to pass the time.
On a side-note, I have a little bit of a rant I need to get off my chest. I was out grinding in space last night - Overt, cause I need FP in the worst way (only a Staff Sargent - need to get to Colonel fast) - Just grinding away, minding my own business in my little TIE Interceptor, when all of a sudden I'm not moving, and my rear sheilds and armor are gone, and I have an eject button on the screen.
When I eject, I can see that parked up my a$$ is some jackass in a Ryykyk Attack Ship. I guess he figured he'd be a nice guy and one-hit kill a single Imperial Ship to make himself feel like more of a man. I got a message to you fool, you wanna PvP in space? I'm your man, but you just gonna ride up behind someone and blast the sh!t outta them just because? That's not very polite man. And for the love of GOD, if you wanna participate in the GCW in space - then pick a bloody side - and attack me on alevel playing field.
OK, OK. I'm just mad cause that was one of the rudest things I've experienced in this game. So I submit to you all, be good PvPers and signal your intent to attack if you are an Ace Pilot taking on a teir3 fighter. That way, if I can't evade you, then thats my lack of abilities, not you just driving up my a$$ and pulling the trigger. Do I expect this to happen again i nthe future? Of course I do, some people are just a$$holes.
*deep breath*
Alright. I'm good now. Thanks for listening.
Saarek wrote:
Ok. Someone up there said we need to chill.
Let me say this.
I was just disappointed man. So very disappointed. Nothing we can do about it, but hey, worse comes to worse - I'll take a trip to the strip joint and get re-introduced to old friend Alcohol. I havent talked with him in over (1, 2, 3...) 4 hours.
LOL.
I think you take my point - theres other things one can do to pass the time.
On a side-note, I have a little bit of a rant I need to get off my chest. I was out grinding in space last night - Overt, cause I need FP in the worst way (only a Staff Sargent - need to get to Colonel fast) - Just grinding away, minding my own business in my little TIE Interceptor, when all of a sudden I'm not moving, and my rear sheilds and armor are gone, and I have an eject button on the screen.
When I eject, I can see that parked up my a$$ is some jackass in a Ryykyk Attack Ship. I guess he figured he'd be a nice guy and one-hit kill a single Imperial Ship to make himself feel like more of a man. I got a message to you fool, you wanna PvP in space? I'm your man, but you just gonna ride up behind someone and blast the sh!t outta them just because? That's not very polite man. And for the love of GOD, if you wanna participate in the GCW in space - then pick a bloody side - and attack me on alevel playing field.
OK, OK. I'm just mad cause that was one of the rudest things I've experienced in this game. So I submit to you all, be good PvPers and signal your intent to attack if you are an Ace Pilot taking on a teir3 fighter. That way, if I can't evade you, then thats my lack of abilities, not you just driving up my a$$ and pulling the trigger. Do I expect this to happen again i nthe future? Of course I do, some people are just a$$holes.
*deep breath*
Alright. I'm good now. Thanks for listening.
Yet another story of Smugglers taking it up the a...... exhaust port.
hehe, sorry, couldn't resist.
A couple notes on all that's being said here:
1. We're all disappointed. We were promised we'd see attention after the CU and we're still waiting. Well in comparison to the waiting we've done up til now, I suppose this is still miniscule. It's still crap though. I truly believe what some of the people in this forum have been told. I truly believe that there was a reason it sounds like they had nothing really to say about the Smuggler profession during FanFest. And unfortunately I see the reoccurence of a previous attempt to "Revamp" this profession. I've got 3 more weeks til I hit my deadline for some Smuggler content, then I'm out.
So go ahead and vent my brothers. Every one of you, noob or salty, deserves that at least. The rest of you shouldn't take it personal. We've had flare ups here before, and they will pass. You can have all the pie and beer you want, but it doesn't change the same old message that SOE has been sending.
2. To the people who say all of this was from before FanFest, explain the FANFEST REQUESTS!!!! items on the list. No I don't believe everything they say, but when something like animation fixes from FanFest make it on to Test Center that quickly after the YEARS of bug fixes, nerfs, and fallen deadlines, then I don't see how you can't be angry, upset, frustrated, disappointed, hell take your pick! Simply stated, it's BS. No matter how meaningless those things are, you need to remember a couple things. The developer working on OUR profession was not at FanFest so WE did not get to see this same action taken for us. This means that if they actually were listening, then we got left out in the cold.
Saarek wrote:
Ok. Someone up there said we need to chill.
Let me say this.
I was just disappointed man. So very disappointed. Nothing we can do about it, but hey, worse comes to worse - I'll take a trip to the strip joint and get re-introduced to old friend Alcohol. I havent talked with him in over (1, 2, 3...) 4 hours.
LOL.
I think you take my point - theres other things one can do to pass the time.
On a side-note, I have a little bit of a rant I need to get off my chest. I was out grinding in space last night - Overt, cause I need FP in the worst way (only a Staff Sargent - need to get to Colonel fast) - Just grinding away, minding my own business in my little TIE Interceptor, when all of a sudden I'm not moving, and my rear sheilds and armor are gone, and I have an eject button on the screen.
When I eject, I can see that parked up my a$$ is some jackass in a Ryykyk Attack Ship. I guess he figured he'd be a nice guy and one-hit kill a single Imperial Ship to make himself feel like more of a man. I got a message to you fool, you wanna PvP in space? I'm your man, but you just gonna ride up behind someone and blast the sh!t outta them just because? That's not very polite man. And for the love of GOD, if you wanna participate in the GCW in space - then pick a bloody side - and attack me on alevel playing field.OK, OK. I'm just mad cause that was one of the rudest things I've experienced in this game. So I submit to you all, be good PvPers and signal your intent to attack if you are an Ace Pilot taking on a teir3 fighter. That way, if I can't evade you, then thats my lack of abilities, not you just driving up my a$$ and pulling the trigger. Do I expect this to happen again i nthe future? Of course I do, some people are just a$$holes.
*deep breath*
Alright. I'm good now. Thanks for listening.
this happened on which server? and who was the pilot who attacked you?
we'll have to make sure he knows not to mess with a Smuggler.
and one other thing... you were overt in space? in which sector? and he was Freelance and was able to attack you?
was he declared for the Rebs? i've always flown Freelance, but never participated in space PvP except once as a gunner on a YT-1300.
Freelance are able to go overt in space for either side right?
anyway... let's let this sucka know what he's dealing with.
SmugglinZane wrote:
2. To the people who say all of this was from before FanFest, explain the FANFEST REQUESTS!!!! items on the list. No I don't believe everything they say, but when something like animation fixes from FanFest make it on to Test Center that quickly after the YEARS of bug fixes, nerfs, and fallen deadlines, then I don't see how you can't be angry, upset, frustrated, disappointed, hell take your pick! Simply stated, it's BS. No matter how meaningless those things are, you need to remember a couple things. The developer working on OUR profession was not at FanFest so WE did not get to see this same action taken for us. This means that if they actually were listening, then we got left out in the cold.
Have to QFE this, as it truly shows that if you can talk to the person in charge of "fixing" something, that person or that team can do it by the next patch. Everything else is just smoke and mirrors.
Message Edited by riotcontrol on 06-10-2005 03:36 PM
Yeah, it doesn't bode well.
The Architects finally got their fix for the OMU not stacking - that's only been broken, since, what, Day 1 of the game? And according to the dev it was a simple fix to boot.
Doesn't give me hope for our issues if a simple fix takes what, 2 years to fix?
As for the debate over whether a series of small patches are better than 1 big upgrade - let me suggest this, given the history of the game, if they introduce a series of upgrades, how much do you want to bet that at the end of the upgrades, they have to go back and nerf the previous upgrades because of unintended consequences of not having done it all at the same time.
Anyway - for those waiting for the upgrades - I believe it was either on the Ranger or Architect forums when their people were reporting on the Fanfest that said they heard that the SU would be live BY Publish 19. So don't hold your breaths for the next little bit.
Depressing Yours,
Daturaze
SmugglinZane wrote:
3. Apparently patience is no longer a virtue. Impatience has now replaced it. So to all you that are pissed, get pissed. Tell it like it is.
Time to go back to my daily /bug reports in-game about slicing being broken.
Time to start hitting the bug threads and posting about slicing being broken.
probably won't do any good, but I guess it is better than nothing.