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Thread: It's Official, CU Goes Live This Week

fishbrains
Mon Apr 25, 2005 2:15 pm
#14

3 words

Huge

F*ing

FUBAR



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Datink_Nieleft
Mon Apr 25, 2005 2:26 pm
#15

Jakers!


And lowblow still doesn't....



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VegitoX
Mon Apr 25, 2005 2:30 pm
#16






SmugglinZane wrote:

I'm just worried about the number of specials that are said to be broken. I haven't had a chance to test since the first couple days, so I'm really not sure what the status of all that is.


I am looking forward to getting this respec done. I'm guessing that that's the main reason they want to push to live. So everyone's templates can be somewhat solid for the RotW as well as the fact that they don't want any server crashes because of the CU on the same day they release an expansion they're hoping will bring new Star Wars fans to the game.





Finally, a voice of reason.



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Bzzzz
Mon Apr 25, 2005 2:43 pm
#17






Datink_Nieleft wrote:

Jakers!


And lowblow still doesn't....




"There isn't time to deal with smuggler specials now, but we'll get to it during the revamp."

(muffled laughter is heard)



-Zz
LM
Mon Apr 25, 2005 2:54 pm
#18






fishbrains wrote:
3 words

Huge

F*ing

FUBAR






Yes indeed, Fishbrains. Thems would be the words.


I think they are doing this well in advance of what they anticipate will be a huge influx of new players. They want to get all the screaming of the veterans done with (not to mention catch as many BUGS as possible in what is now a huge, involuntary beta) before ROTW is released.


Just think of the tens of thousands who don't read the boards and have NO idea what this "Upgrade" is. It's not an upgrade; it is a CORE CHANGE. It touches (and not gently) every aspect of the game that they have been playing for two years, and not, in my opinion, for the better.


Jesus, think of it -- the "conversions" of people's possessions for which they worked so hard (well, some of them, anyway), the complete changes in resources and/or effectiveness regarding the crafting of foods, meds, armor and weapons. Millions of credits that people will feel have been taken from them.


The Entertainer profession has been gutted.


The fact that COMBAT PROFESSIONS ALONE determine a user's all-important "LEVEL" and thus their ability to move about, to hunt and harvest -- to PLAY, really. If you are not a double elitecombat prof good luck to ya.


Not to mention that ALL that matters in combat seems to be your "level" -- it's so drastically over-simplified and god-awful SLOW (as of Saturday night, anyway)... I am a level 80 and it took me ten minutes to kill a level 60 critter. It took me 5 minutes to kill a level 38 critter and it incapped me.


The particle effects drastically reduce performance on slower machines. Just imagine on Live what the effect will be in a group of 8 using Specials. Even high end machines will be affected.


And we know how bugged it is on Test Center... man this is gonna be... well: What you said.




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Mott_Kruger
Mon Apr 25, 2005 3:13 pm
#19

My sig says it all!



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Bzzzz
Mon Apr 25, 2005 3:49 pm
#20

I'm mainly concerned that they're pushing it out the door without correcting the specials *again.* That more than anything tells me that nothing's changed in the dev/publishing house since release. As much as they might protest that they're commited to making the CU work, precedents in this area suggest otherwise. We had a completely busted Pistoleer prof for almost two years. By that example alone, I'm picking my profs based on what specials work NOW, becauseI have no confidence that they'll ever get around to fixing them this time, either. So BH it is, then!


I'm also a little worried about the early release will shove the item-conversion down our throats. It's kind of a one-time-only deal, and if they decide later to raise the stats a bit for certain equipment (ala DE-10), all of our existing stuff is obsolete.



-Zz
Ragnaat
Mon Apr 25, 2005 4:30 pm
#21



maxtheusher wrote:
/ahem let me be the first to say, I TOLD YOU SO!

Seriously, what's with the surprise, I've been saying that the CU was going live before ROTW since they announced CU was hitting TC.

It really does make sense... get all the CU stuff and downtime & a crash hotfix (if crashers are found) out of the way so people buying the new box can load it and get online right away and play.



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Ragnaat
Mon Apr 25, 2005 4:36 pm
#22



VegitoX wrote:
The question is: will it be as bad as everyone is predicting; or are some people simply unhappy because they dont have time to grind or re-grind, in some cases, their respective professions. Im inclined to think it has alot to do with option 2, but legitamately (sp) the first.


I personally have a LOT of questions unanswered about CU bugs/conversion issues (I really think another 3 or 4 days of constant new conversions would be needed before anyone could feel good about the output), and there are bugs like the Ship weapon ones or specials that could be fixed but as a player i just don't know, and that's the kind of thign that I worry about. As such I would have loved to see thigns get worked on until the end of the week.

All of the game design issues, well, they were lost causes almost the minute they hit a test server.

End result, medicore level of bad for the first round of conversion servers in terms of bugginess, game play good vs. bad is an open and more personal thing.



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Chewnada
Mon Apr 25, 2005 4:42 pm
#23

So your telling me none of yall ever played EQ beta for 4 to 5 years? Comon its SoE's way. We have grown to love it and live it.





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maxtheusher
Mon Apr 25, 2005 5:08 pm
#24



Bzzzz wrote:


Datink_Nieleft wrote:
Jakers!
And lowblow still doesn't....


"There isn't time to deal with smuggler specials now, but we'll get to it during the revamp."
(muffled laughter is heard)
-Zz





Wow, I didn't even think of that. We are yet again going Live as an unfinished profession. This is the Second time now. wow...



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SpinningCloud
Mon Apr 25, 2005 5:12 pm
#25

ROFLMAO


Well...bright side for me is I'm about as far away from SWG as I can get on this planet so I won't be tempted to login and suffer patch day woes!


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Slipkid42
Mon Apr 25, 2005 5:40 pm
#26

Why don't the just make it easy on us and push us all into the sarlaac



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