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Thread: *Sarcastic* WOW! Nice Smuggler Revamp!

OrianaM
Wed Sep 14, 2005 9:36 am
#14




Openfire wrote:
We just got a Squad leader Revamp.......why don't you act like normal people, and wait? If they just made a SL revamp, then Smuggler will be on the way!





Two things.


One: We have been waiting...many since Beta for a revamp.


Two: If we were normal people, we wouldn't be Smugglers



Ori'ana Mala - Bounty Hunter (Elder) - Acct Cancelled 11/20/2005
Na'tal'y Kiel - Smuggler (Elder) - Acct Cancelled 11/20/2005
-----------------------------Sister's Toons----------------------------------
Bri'anne - Mala - Smuggler (Elder) - Acct Cancelled 11/20/2005
Ma'ara Kiel - Shipwright (Elder) - Acct Cancelled 11/20/2005
Spec-Ops
Wed Sep 14, 2005 11:30 am
#15
i dont think he was listning



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NightRaider
Wed Sep 14, 2005 6:55 pm
#16




Openfire wrote:

Has anyone ever heard of coding? how long it takes? If they already made one change, then another one is on the way




Yeah I have heard of coding and I have been directly involved in the coding ofgames. I could have coded an entirely new game in the time we have been waiting for our revamp.


Please actually spend some time reading all the un-fullfilled promises made to us (many of which were brought out by prev poster) before coming here and trying to sound like you even have a clue.





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MisterWizard
Wed Sep 14, 2005 8:40 pm
#17
I can tell you when the Smuggler revamp will come.


Like many of you, I've been a Master Smuggler for what seems like eons. We've held off dropping our skills for more useful and marketable ones in hope that the revamp, or at least the necessary tweaks, would come. We still wait.


When will the revamp come? After we drop all our Smuggler skills.




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LM
Thu Sep 15, 2005 12:19 am
#18




Spec-Ops wrote:
i dont think he was listning




Give him time and he will become as jaded as the rest of us.






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OrianaM
Thu Sep 15, 2005 12:38 am
#19




Openfire wrote:

Has anyone ever heard of coding? how long it takes? If they already made one change, then another one is on the way



Sure we've heard of coding. I believe we were once told that the coding for our revamp was all done, but they just needed to write the dialogue. This was over a year ago.


We've also heard that our change was on the way...right after they were done pushing JTL to live.


Perhaps one should take a long look at the list of broken promises and "just around the corner" posts that have been directed at smugglers before posting here. I'm not begrudging Squad Leaders their revamp ONE IOTA! I'm happy for them.


But to assume that because they got a revamp that ours is steaming ahead right for us is naivete in the first degree. Take a look at our history. We go from "Being the ones in most need of love." to "After Jedi get their revamp" to "After JTL goes live." To "After Jedi get their second revamp." to "After the C goes live, because that will take care of most of your issues." (It didn't btw in case you were wondering, it broke us even worse.) to "There was nothing here (insert vigorous, desperate hand-waving by theSOE as they hoped the Jedimind trick would work) there was never any talk of you actually smuggling."


So telling us to be patient is absurd. We've lost most of our really vocal advocates due to a combination of ambivilance aimed at us and outright lies told to us.


Telling us that our revamp must be coming soon is even more absurd. We've heard this before. Many times. From people who were actually paid mouthpieces of SOE. So often that we've trademarked the word SOON (tm)


We've heard all the excuses they can dish out. Including the coding issues. We just simply refuse to believe anyone who now tells us that "It's on the way...soon(tm)"

Message Edited by OrianaM on 09-14-2005 12:55 PM

Message Edited by OrianaM on 09-14-2005 12:56 PM



Ori'ana Mala - Bounty Hunter (Elder) - Acct Cancelled 11/20/2005
Na'tal'y Kiel - Smuggler (Elder) - Acct Cancelled 11/20/2005
-----------------------------Sister's Toons----------------------------------
Bri'anne - Mala - Smuggler (Elder) - Acct Cancelled 11/20/2005
Ma'ara Kiel - Shipwright (Elder) - Acct Cancelled 11/20/2005
Sunsplash
Thu Sep 15, 2005 3:57 am
#20

CrimsonCommando says:


Ok, I am very confused on this whole Smuggler revamp situation. The devs in their reports said: The Smuggler profession will be revamped and it will be during 3 Publishes in 3 parts and it will be known has the "Smuggler Expeierece". The first part will be slicing, the second part will be combat and the third part will be like having Smugglers be hunted by Bounty Hunters or something similar to that.I waited. They did nothing. And then finally they did the first part which was the Slicing part. And Then to my knowledge they did combat (if you could even say that, they screwed up smuggler moves like Concussion Shot and Panic Shot). And then there hasnt been like anything on this Bounty Hunter thing. So thats it? Thats SOE's revamp of Smuggler? Ok... Creature Handler gets a make over.. then Squadleader is in the developements of getting completly redone. And then Smuggler... something that the devs said would be revamped a long time ago has only had a few changes and they are minor if that.





I want a true, total revamp...INCLUDING slicing (again). Thepresentmethod they shoved down our throats last minuteis depressing. It is difficult to get many of the slicing components, and we still have to deal with the lame slicing cap on weapons. It would be nice if any revamp ideas would be discussed here.Alas, there is just silience from the Devs,






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Aendracon
Thu Sep 15, 2005 5:34 am
#21
For more details on the history of the Smuggler revamp - have a look at the various "The history of Smugglers in SWG - as written by the Devs" threads.



Ryian Coron - Elder Smuggler
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SioBabble
Thu Sep 15, 2005 9:46 am
#22




BioEngine wrote:


The sad part is, Rangers / Smugglers / Squad Leaders were promised revamps at a Fan Fest, then they say "they won't be revamps, per se, but mini publishes," then there are unnanounced changes which require Entertainers to get their attention, then CH gets a makeover that not a single person saw coming.


I think they would rather do the "fun" and "Exciting" profession revamps than the ones they had promised, but at least one of the three is getting what they are due.





The really frustrating thing about the CH makeover was that the In Concept > In Development > In Testing > In Live "process" was totally ignored.


There was not a hint that this makeover would happen, it was sprung on CH virtually overnight with zero player input.


Koster claims in the "Theory of Fun" thread over on the Shadowfire forum that the development cycle is an SOE wide policy, first introduced in SWG, but it's painfully obvious that the policy is violated with impunity and is nothing more than gladhandling.


Tazz gave up smuggler, in part hoping that if he did so, it would trigger the Smuggler revamp at long last.


Alas, sorry guys, no such luck.


I wish my smuggler friends all the best. You guys deserve tons of love. You won't get it, but you deserve it. Instead the accursed glowsticks will get it (and I say this as someone who can equip one) when a SMUGGLER and his wookiee sidekick made it possible for whine-boy to destroy the Death Star.






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Redleg13
Thu Sep 15, 2005 10:02 am
#23
Never going to happen. I have been a master for over 2 years. Listened to the promises believed and then got disappointed over and over. Then I decided, I will do my own smuggler thing. Slicing I do, but only if you want come to my house. The days of coming to you are over. I provide things people hunt for at a fair price. Smuggler are providers and facilitators so I play that out. LOL. DEVs do what they are paided to do.



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Klinsek
Thu Sep 15, 2005 3:25 pm
#24

Openfire wrote:
We just got a Squad leader Revamp.......why don't you act like normal people, and wait? If they just made a SL revamp, then Smuggler will be on the way!




Echuta!




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Sing
Fri Sep 16, 2005 12:08 am
#25

Ok so i feel it's time for me to give my 2 cents about the broken smuggler profession: First off i am cheesed off that the DEV'S have to nerf every good thing that comes along, first the nerfed the specials, and now they've nerfed the Loot drops, wasen't it the dev's that made the decision to make the game loot based in the first place?, the new slicing system was also a real well thought out plan from the dev's, not only did they remove the slicing xp, but they've made it impossible for me to convert xp to the senses tree, well unless i give something up, and decide to grind a new profession that is, and that is not happening. The only good thing is that we get to control the slices now, so that's an improvement, only took 2 years. Seams to me that the Development in this game is only to come up with new marketing sceems to get more money out of the players, rather than developing and fixing the game as is. I guess this was more of a bashing in general rather than just smuggler, but there u go.


What ever happened to the saying: " the customer is always right?" might b a little lesson for the R&D team at Sony there, if it were me i'd b conserned that a big number of players quit the game, but they apparently don't consern themselves with that sort of thing. Well there it is, my 2 cents. That's all folks


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Weasel-Master
Fri Sep 16, 2005 5:08 am
#26




SmugglinZane wrote:

There is no Smuggler revamp...



But I'm gonna use this spoon they told me didn't exist either to cut their f-in hearts out one by one until they come up with something.






I hope that it is a blunt sponn so as to cause more pain



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