Smuggler Archive
Thread: A lucky Rifleman
egbertvanloenen wrote:
Jaguarrr wrote:
Kalaf wrote:
"Maybe fire rate won't exist any more? I hope it does, as a rifle firing at the same rate as a pistol and outdamaging it would be soooooo wrong."
Why would it be wrong? I mean Tommygun has a higher rate of fire then a M1911 pistol. It fore sthe same bullet basicly and because of teh higher ROF does more damage in same time frame. Not sure why people seem to think pistols should be more powerful then rifles.
What I would like to see would be rifles with REAL rifle ranges. This code imposed max range of 65m is insane.
Tommygun? Rifle? Carbines would be my guess. The rifles for a Rifleman (one of your titles is Sniper!) are accurate, high caliber weapons with a usally very slow firerate.
ok, gimme a rifle with the speed/damage of a flamethrower then, and watch me Strafe2 (dmg output = x5 if im correct)
The damage is ok on rifles, it is the speed that is insane.
srotre wrote:with the ravamp, will we ever speed slice again? doubt it, i have yet to hear i want a speed slice. ive been playing 9 months
Really? I had a guy tip me triple for speed slicing 3-out-of-5 VKs. One was a 35% speed slice. Obviously he was grinding, but still...
It's only on Master-class or Elite weapons that people really demand a damage slice, because at that point you've already been speed capped. When you're still grinding though, speed is key.
Then you my friend have never truely lived as a smuggler. The first time I heard it I almost wept with joy.
srotre wrote:
with the ravamp, will we ever speed slice again? doubt it, i have yet to hear i want a speed slice. ive been playing 9 months
Jaguarrr wrote:
egbertvanloenen wrote:
Jaguarrr wrote:
Kalaf wrote:
"Maybe fire rate won't exist any more? I hope it does, as a rifle firing at the same rate as a pistol and outdamaging it would be soooooo wrong."
Why would it be wrong? I mean Tommygun has a higher rate of fire then a M1911 pistol. It fore sthe same bullet basicly and because of teh higher ROF does more damage in same time frame. Not sure why people seem to think pistols should be more powerful then rifles.
What I would like to see would be rifles with REAL rifle ranges. This code imposed max range of 65m is insane.
Tommygun? Rifle? Carbines would be my guess. The rifles for a Rifleman (one of your titles is Sniper!) are accurate, high caliber weapons with a usally very slow firerate.
ok, gimme a rifle with the speed/damage of a flamethrower then, and watch me Strafe2 (dmg output = x5 if im correct)
The damage is ok on rifles, it is the speed that is insane.
Yanno, even the speed I don't hink is all that bad. What Rifleman need is extremely accurate accuracy checks. They can be fast and Powerful, thats fine. However, If you are 200m away from someone, and they are sitting there, not moving, although thats a difficult shot, it's still cake to a Master Rifleman. However, at that range, lets say that same target is walking around, the shot isn't so easy, and should have at least a -25 accuracy modifier attached, lets say he's running and dodging to keep from getting hit, there's another -25 or 50 (-75 total) modifier to be hit. Ok, now lets say the rifleman is kiting (Rifleman Kite? no way!!!!!) If the rifleman is running they should have at least a -50 modifier to their accuracy.
So, I'm all in favor of Rifleman staying extremely fast and extremely powerful, and they deserve AP3 (although that'll change in the CURB) They should incur at least a -150 accuracy modifier when Kiting, making the class at least balanced. Cause a Tk or Swordsman should own a Rifleman at close quarters, but like hell should that Rifleman be Spamming HS3 for 300 damage once a sec while kiting, and never miss.
P.S. good friend and guildie is rifleman, nothing against you guys, but NO ONE should kite with zero discernable penalty the way you folks do