Smuggler Archive

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WesBelden wrote:

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yimaz wrote:
Ummm, Wes any word on this very, very valid point?

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I asked about this when the thread was originally posted and was told I'd be consulted when they needed input. I have neither seen nor heard anything that would suggest that they have/havenot started design work internally some time this January (just re-read that and realised it's a round about way of saying "I don't know" ). If I'm consulted and allowed to let you know about it, I will .

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So, the whole unprecedented communication and working closely with the Smuggler community has effectively been smeared along the bottom of the theoretical toilet for a year and someone decided to finally break out the toilet brush?

Awesome. Guess and check time for the the Smuggler community and Developers! Let's hope we don't have to pull another Chaz Darvey and wipe ourcracks with yet another half-ass attempt at a Smuggler Revamp document because the Devs failed to bother with our opinions.

Or I guess because Wes said he doesn't know if they started on it and they haven't consulted him yet, they're going ahead with the option of doing what they want with the "mystery grab bag" revamp.

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SmugglinZane wrote:

I don't need documents. I don't need them to tell me where they are in their process. What I would love to see is a post from GM here saying "I'm back because it's January and we're supposed to start working on the design of your revamp." The biggest fear I have is that we're going to start all over again from step one. They're going to put somebody on it who just doesn't understand. They're going to roll it out. We're going to say wait one fraking minute. And then we're in que again.

Zane

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QFE

And what I fear is that is a correct statement. From what I heard, they have the old Devs working on the CU and the new Devs working on the new content. And if I remembered, GreenMarine is an old Dev.

I think it's about time for us to get a good grasp of the situation. They said it'd start in January. It's the end of January. They said GM would work with us closely. We haven't seen hide or hair of him in months. Things aren't adding up and projected dates are coming up and passing. There needs to be a quick break down for us just to know what's up.

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DrevenStrobe wrote:

I'm still waiting from the inevitable post from Tiggs (since TH and JustG have already had their turns) asking:

"So...what would you guys like in your revamp?"

At which point, I think my head will explode.

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Who was in charge and has copies of all the other Revamp documents from Publish 9 and 11 and the other documents? Also, who has copies of player based Revamp ideas like Caylin, Kav, and EN?

I actually thought that Caylin or you or Geevo was keeping a list of documents and links on their hard drive to just send to the Devs when they asked that particular question. I mean, why rewrite it? Might skim through it and see if stuff needs changing but wouldn't need to redo nothing.

And if your head does explode, we can shovel it up and plant the pieces in Tiggs' bed under the sheets when she sleeps...be a nice surprise when she wakes up

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DrevenStrobe wrote:

I'm still waiting from the inevitable post from Tiggs (since TH and JustG have already had their turns) asking:

"So...what would you guys like in your revamp?"

At which point, I think my head will explode.

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man...if that happens we need to all post the following statementand nothing more:

/rolleyes

I admit, another "So, help us here, what do you guys want in your revamp" would very much feel like a kick in the face, considering how many time that was done.

Even overly optimistic me might howl and growl if that happen. lol

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DrevenStrobe wrote:

hmmm...I was just looking for my "Developer's Guide to 'handling' the Smuggler Community" to find out what step we're on...but I can't seem to find that thread anywhere...

Me thinks someone took offence to it and had it destroyed...

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Move along....nothing to see here

Message Edited by NickHeel on 01-31-2005 04:42 PM

I read that quote in the newsletter, and it didn't scare me at all. I guess working in the software industry has made me jaded about the slow progress of things, and anything at all makes me happy. This is the way I look at it:

They said they were waiting for the context of the Combat Revamp to begin the design work for Smuggler and the others. This makes sense. Why revamp professions that may have some affects from another update before you know what those affects will be? Especially in the case of Smuggler, where some combat skills are involved.
I would actually FAR rather that they start their Smuggler planning AFTER they've got the design plan for the CURB worked out, instead of having to rework the Smuggler design once the CURB tosses it all on its ear.

This also tells us that the Smuggler revamp will be after the CURB. Didn't we know that anyway? I also look at it that they're at least starting to think about how to revamp Smuggler and the other "non-combat" professions. Which is better than nothing.
I'm like world's most pessimistic optimist.