Smuggler Archive

Thread: A constructive Plan C

DeepProgress
Sat Jun 25, 2005 12:46 am
#14

Or give slicing a "visibility" which increases based on the level of the slice. Scale the punishment with the visibility of the slice. The greater the offense, the greater the punishment up to busting the person down a rank or two when they get caught. That would mean more risk but it's not really game-breaking, considering how easy faction is to farm.

From an RP standpoint, the faction scanners would refer to your weapon as standard issue Imperial or Rebel. With a tier 1 slice, they notice that your weapon seems a little dirty and you get dinged for it. At tier 2, your weapon appears to have been tampered with. At tier 3 your weapon has some minor non-standard customizations which violate regulations. At tier 4, it is beyond obvious that it is an illegally sliced weapon.

Message Edited by DeepProgress on 06-24-2005 12:54 PM



<KoA> Col. Dralus Frost <KoA>
kMaster Smugglerk
kMaster Bounty Hunterk
kBlack Epsilon Acek
IndySWG
Sat Jun 25, 2005 12:49 am
#15






DeepProgress wrote:
Or give slicing a "visibility" which increases based on the level of the slice. Scale the punishment with the visibility of the slice. The greater the offense, the greater the punishment up to busting the person down a rank or two when they get caught. That would mean more risk but it's not really game-breaking, considering how easy faction is to farm.




Yeah, you could make the 'X number of faction points' be based on the customization level of the slice. That sort of scale seems to be already in the system.



Korin Sterling - Master Smuggler / Master Musician - Ashla's Wing Part: [1][2]
Perfection City, Lok, Lowca [About Perfection] | [Vendor Directory] | [Forums]
Perfection ... it's not just a state of being ... it's a destination!

HaughtyElf
Sat Jun 25, 2005 12:51 am
#16

Good start for same faction scans..


Now what happens when you are scanned by a different faction, ie. Imp on Red and vice versa.






We Diggs The Tiggs
Col. Micte Badul, Imperial Smuggler
Master Smuggler, Master Bounty Hunter, Master Pilot
Dirty rotten scoundrel and all around swindler

Life should NOT be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in an attractive and well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways,
martini in one hand, cigar in the other, body thoroughly used up, totally worn out and screaming "WOO HOO - What a Ride!"


Bzzzz
Sat Jun 25, 2005 12:54 am
#17

I like this! Scaling the punishment by the level of the slice would be excellent.



-Zz

Thomen
Sat Jun 25, 2005 12:56 am
#18






Ternque01 wrote:

I like this idea. Considering how RARE it is for a Crackdown or scan team to actually scan you.... I really wonder what the risk is, hehe.








Yep, a very good idea. in all the time since the crackdown i was scanned once in a city, twice in the cantina, twice a patrol dragged me from my speeder and 1 once by a probot while i had suit of sliced armor, sliced weapon and pixie downer. puked a bit on the probot.. but he didnt find anything on me



Lawho Iwon
Master Smuggler
Smugglers Alliance Ace

Coalition of the Lost Smugglers
DeepProgress
Sat Jun 25, 2005 12:57 am
#19



HaughtyElf wrote:

Good start for same faction scans..

Now what happens when you are scanned by a different faction, ie. Imp on Red and vice versa.






Well, I don't know about most people but I usually roll around as a combatant so they tend to shoot first and ask questions later. Otherwise, I suppose, just increase the likelihood that the scan reveals you as opposing faction. If you're not prepared to fight and end up getting killed, well, you didn't have to carry a sliced weapon in the first place, did you?



<KoA> Col. Dralus Frost <KoA>
kMaster Smugglerk
kMaster Bounty Hunterk
kBlack Epsilon Acek
DeepProgress
Sat Jun 25, 2005 12:59 am
#20



Thomen wrote:


Ternque01 wrote:

I like this idea. Considering how RARE it is for a Crackdown or scan team to actually scan you.... I really wonder what the risk is, hehe.




Yep, a very good idea. in all the time since the crackdown i was scanned once in a city, twice in the cantina, twice a patrol dragged me from my speeder and 1 once by a probot while i had suit of sliced armor, sliced weapon and pixie downer. puked a bit on the probot.. but he didnt find anything on me





Obviously the code that governs scanning would have to be adjusted to make it more frequent and somewhat risky.



<KoA> Col. Dralus Frost <KoA>
kMaster Smugglerk
kMaster Bounty Hunterk
kBlack Epsilon Acek
IndySWG
Sat Jun 25, 2005 10:36 am
#21






IndySWG wrote:


...{snip}...

Also ... if a loot-based slice were undone ... the loot item used could be returned to the player along with the unsliced weapon. (seems too warm/fuzzy to me ... but it could be done)






Uhg, the more I think about it the more I think loot drops in slices need to be taken out entirely (really bad idea) ... but that's a seperate battle I guess, as the source of my whole frustration was the DEVs pretending loot somehow was related to risk - when its not - at all.


This scan=unslice idea could worth with or without the loot system.







Korin Sterling - Master Smuggler / Master Musician - Ashla's Wing Part: [1][2]
Perfection City, Lok, Lowca [About Perfection] | [Vendor Directory] | [Forums]
Perfection ... it's not just a state of being ... it's a destination!

Spiderhammer
Sat Jun 25, 2005 1:45 pm
#22






Ternque01 wrote:

I like this idea. Considering how RARE it is for a Crackdown or scan team to actually scan you.... I really wonder what the risk is, hehe.








hey i got scanned for the first time in months last night... on endor i guess they were bored because there wasnt another soul in sight... scan came up clean of course



# I support PIRATES!!!! YARR, matey!


Player Based Smugglin... its the only way!
gassygunslinger
Sat Jun 25, 2005 3:51 pm
#23

Seriously... Is there ANYONE who has much info on the New Slicing on TC?!?! Like if the caps still apply? Are the %'s better? All I hear about it CS and PS!



################################################
################################################
################################################
################################################
################################################
################################################
################################################
################################################
################################################




PikechickLei
Sat Jun 25, 2005 8:10 pm
#24

Bump bump bump. Can we get a sticky on this or something? It needs to be explored more.



----

Tisiphone
Starsider

Juspar
Sat Jun 25, 2005 8:55 pm
#25






Ternque01 wrote:

I like this idea. Considering how RARE it is for a Crackdown or scan team to actually scan you.... I really wonder what the risk is, hehe.






I like it too! I think the reason you haven't been scanned is YOU ARE A SMUGGLER! LOL


I started an alt who has been scanned by a rebel and a corsec agent in the last two days. Not to mention forced to combatant by a storm trooper.


We'd need to come up with a plan for the uberloot if it had been applied. Does the player get the 'standard' weapon, and the loot item back in their inventory? Or is the slice still applied and just needs to be repaired by a smuggler (alomst like a jam?)



Juspar - DELTA : Rebel Combat Medic/ Smuggler, Bria

After CU I stuck it out because my guild friends were still here, the good was good enough and the bad could be worked around.
With NGE:
  • My guildies hated it so much they quit
  • They nerfed my uniquness
  • They nerfed my ability to role play
  • They nerfed my strategic combat
  • They disregarded Star Wars canon
  • As a level 80 smuggler, I have out dueled every level and every profession. Only beated since NGE by a level 90 Bounty Hunter.
PikechickLei
Sun Jun 26, 2005 12:00 pm
#26

In an ideal world, going with plan C would mean that we could all forget plan B ever existed except in our nightmares. If the whole point of the uberloot concept is to add some notion of 'risk' to the good slices, andrunning the risk of having them removed by a contraband searchprovides that instead.


Maybe rather than a faction point hit (or in conjunction with) there could be some form of scaled, meaningful credit penalty when you get caught. Like the more modified the weapon is, the greater the fine the authority figure slaps on you.


25% customization - 1,000cr fine

50% customization - 5,000cr fine

75% customization - 20,000cr fine

100% customization- 50,000cr fine.


Something like that would make the risks of the higher level slices much greater than the low level ones, making people have to choose how much it's worth to them.



----

Tisiphone
Starsider

Page 2 of 3