Smuggler Archive

Thread: Smuggler delay

XxMaddSeazyn
Fri Jun 11, 2004 11:15 am
#235






Xeranx wrote:





Shrendyc wrote:





XxMaddSeazyn wrote:



P.S Wasn't Thunderheart meant to be around here some time soon? Did I miss that?






Lets not forget what was posted and the timeline:

June 3 -that infamous State of the Game message was posted with news of yet another delay in our revamp, throwing this community into a rage.


June 4 - JustG makes a post on the smuggler boards to soothe the troubled spirits, and makes this comment - "We are at the FF right now, so TH and I are going to be fairly unavailable at this time, but we will spend some time with you next week..." (JustG on 6-4-04)


June 5 - Again, JustG posts, notifying us that GreenMarine is again going to work on our revamp when his other obligations are fulfilled. This is much like a post done by Q-3PO in september of last year.


It is now June 11th,almost the endof the "next week", and there has been no time spent here by a red name, other than a quick blurb in Caylin's going MIA post (and the post has nothing to do with anything smuggler). "Next week" is, technically, over this coming Saturday at midnight. 38.75 hours remain (where I am located) for JustG's comment about spending time here to be achieved.

I personally am waiting to see how (more like"if" at this point) this comes to pass, and if it's a quality time versus a single post cover-smoke blowing issue.






You know I am just as upset as all of you at the treatment we're getting, but when you keep coming out with the same height of annoyance I wonder just how healthy that is for all of you.


It's been 6 days since something was said in response to our annoyance at being ignored and passed over. I am hoping the revamp is great for us, but I can't keep pulling anger up from nowhere to continue wailing on the developers with my words of anger. It's not healthy and chances are you end up walking around in a bad mood for the rest of the day. We should not be seen like many see the nerf criers. Give it another 6 days and then bring it up in a civil manner.





Why can I not bring it up in a Civil Manner on Sunday? Why do we have to wait 12days when we were promised within 7?




---------------------------------------------

The reason the Old Republic lost faith in the Jedi is because they watched Episode II
ColonelRechna
Mon Jul 19, 2004 8:20 pm
#236

/bump

IM DONE! SMUGGLERS WILL NEVER GET A REVAMP! ALL YOU HOPELESS HAPLESS PEOPLE ARE WAITING FOR SOMETHING THAT WILL NEVER COME THIS GAME WONT LAST!



-=Xiaspora' Rechna=-

Opposer Of FoE

Master Smuggler, Master Pistoleer. Fencer
Sage
Mon Jul 19, 2004 11:00 pm
#237

Well, while that wasn't the most constructive of posts, one does have to wonder how long it will be before the Smuggler revamp will take place... Part of Publish 10? Part of the combator GCW revamps? Anyone heard?
Shrendyc
Tue Jul 20, 2004 6:16 am
#238

Well if this isn't a blast from the past...and nothing much has changed, really. And Sage, to answer your question, the smuggler revamp is slated for "sometime after the release of JTL". And given that priority will be given to the GCW revamp and the Combat Balance before the smuggler revamp, its looking like another 12 months of our profession being in this condition before anything earth shaking occurs.


Please correct me if I am wrong, Caylin, but that is my understanding of the timeline.


The short version is "Don't hold your breath."



"Any intelligent fool can make things bigger and more complex... It takes a touch of genius --- and a lot of courage to move in the opposite direction. "
SpinningCloud
Thu Jul 22, 2004 6:58 am
#239

I'm glad to see that most people are coming to their senses about this never-to-be-seen Smuggler Revamp.


I've said all along that the best judge of what will be is by what has gone before...ie. TRACK RECORD.


SOE's track record with Smugglers give me absolutely NO hope of seeing this 'revamp'...ever.


Anyway...I'm NOT going to continue to pay SOE every month for empty promises.


Fool me once...ok maybe three times now...shame on you SOE, fool me yet again? No way am I taking shame on me again!




Smuggler, Smuggler, Smuggler Pie, Two years of "Soon"(TM), a harsh bunch of lies.
Ask me a riddle and I reply: "Smuggler, Smuggler, Smuggler Pie"

Smuggler, Smuggler, Smuggler Pie, Dancers can't smuggle and neither can I.
Ask me a riddle and I reply: "Smuggler, Smuggler, Smuggler Pie."

Smuggler, Smuggler, Smuggler Pie, Why are there Jedi, I don't know why.
Ask me a riddle and I reply: "Smuggler, Smuggler, Smuggler Pie."

DaAhn
Thu Jul 22, 2004 9:50 am
#240






P__Day wrote:

though delays happen, (im from a coutry where it takes a letter 3 days to travel 3km). the least you can do is to add something to "tie us over" i have a few suggestions that might be "easily" implemented to make smuggler more fun.


- replace all regular scan teams with nova troopers, upon finding contraband the following will happen :


Imperial : Will lose one rank because of insuburdination to the laws of the emperor. If the person in question is a private he will recive - fp equal to what hte next rank would cost him, all faction help over the new cap will be lost. Overt imperials of rank above Army captain will be fined 10% of the faction cap. No "discounts" for coverts since they are not recognised by the Scan teams as "servants" of the empire


- Neutral : will be fined based on they're faction standing with the empire x10 so -5000 imp faction would be a 50k fine and so on.


- Rebels : Instant incap followed by a DB resulting in increased decay 10 - 25% and max bf and 400 wounds to each stat including sub stats, will also get a 20 minute TEF







P_day, you can't have a TEF while DEAD!





Da'Ahn Ont-Ra-Master Image Designer/Medical Professor-Lowca
Weyune Togurnah-Master Dancer/Master Fencer/Master Brawler-Gorath
Dryas Okapee-Master Tailor-Ahazi
Aviah Flyingmoon-Master Dancer-Starsider
"Calling you stupid would be an insult to stupid people"-Wanda; Fish Called Wanda
Halendor
Thu Jul 22, 2004 9:58 am
#241

I don't understand. By releasing Jump to Lightspeed first, the developers will only create more problems than they already have. Now they 'only' have to fix several professions, but because JTL won't be perfect when released, they'll have to deal with those problems as well. They should clean things up before messingthem up again.


On the other hand, I do understand. The release of JTL will bring SOE more money. Capitalism



Raek Kre'mos (Eclipse)
SWG: Massive Singleplayer Mostly Offline or Loading Power Playing Grind
Bzzzz
Thu Jul 22, 2004 1:45 pm
#242






Blackman wrote:

First I’d apologize that we were misleading at all, if that was the case, or if he was misled and had expectations for a Smuggler revamp.





Silly smugglers, however did we "mislead" ourselves into thinking that we had a revamp coming??



Zz


Astrus
Thu Jul 22, 2004 2:04 pm
#243






Mackle wrote:



Well at least the devs are finally coming clean... Smuggler isn't now and never was on their radar for a fix. We didn't slip behind other priorities, we have never been a priority.


Now we have just gotten pushed out of 2004.


Great job devs. Wish you hadn't been so dishonest with us this whole time.







...and this Mackle post pretty much sums up how all of us feel....and to think i took some blows myself for having spoke my mind.



The response that we got after WEEKS of waiting just goes to show what i was trying to prove in that Smuggler forgotten again thread...and thats when you complain/whine....SOE listens





1011010011001000000001100001010110101011       A s t r u s  
0100000110100001001111011001011011100011
111011010010101111100000010101110101111
0 "The Rebel Himself..."
1010101000110001101010010001000110011100
0111111101101010011111111110111111001000 Elder Politician
0111011001010111000011111101100000001100 Guild Master of SancTuarY
1111101111100111110110011101010011000011
0101111111110010010110111100000010001000 www.sanct-guild.com

Astrus
Thu Jul 22, 2004 2:09 pm
#244






Akore wrote:

WoW! First. I doubt anyone at SOE is actually going to sift through and read all these posts because "the large systems you're revamping need your full attention". I've been a smuggler ever since I got the game in Nov/03 and we've been waiting and waiting for a revamp... wait, why am I writting this? Nothing is going to happen... no one really cares about anyone posting messages on this board.





you know.....if ANYONE FROM SOE SEE's THIS POST AND DOESNT DO SOMETHING ABOUT THE condition of smuggler then they REALLY dont give a **edit** about us, given what we have been thru and how supportive we have been of them.


...this is just getting out of pocket and becoming more and more of a slap in the face to us.



1011010011001000000001100001010110101011       A s t r u s  
0100000110100001001111011001011011100011
111011010010101111100000010101110101111
0 "The Rebel Himself..."
1010101000110001101010010001000110011100
0111111101101010011111111110111111001000 Elder Politician
0111011001010111000011111101100000001100 Guild Master of SancTuarY
1111101111100111110110011101010011000011
0101111111110010010110111100000010001000 www.sanct-guild.com

Astrus
Thu Jul 22, 2004 2:11 pm
#245






TheLadyLillith wrote:

With the money SOE is making off this game, I'd think they could hire some more designers.

It's just a thought.




I did some calculations and it seems they net in upwards of 6.3 millions dollars.....A MONTH.







1011010011001000000001100001010110101011       A s t r u s  
0100000110100001001111011001011011100011
111011010010101111100000010101110101111
0 "The Rebel Himself..."
1010101000110001101010010001000110011100
0111111101101010011111111110111111001000 Elder Politician
0111011001010111000011111101100000001100 Guild Master of SancTuarY
1111101111100111110110011101010011000011
0101111111110010010110111100000010001000 www.sanct-guild.com

Astrus
Thu Jul 22, 2004 2:15 pm
#246






JediArashi wrote:

Disappointed. Simply disappointed.



Mind you, I wasseething with anger, but then realized it wasn't worth being angry over. If there is anything to be angry over it is that they are driving away the best damn correspondent EVER!


otherwise...just disappointed.


-Arashi


Bloodfin






this is getting sadder by the hour.....we NEED SOMETHING SOE......GIVE US SOMETHING TO TIDE US OVER for all the promises broken....ANYTHING would do about now...even a smuggler only pistol that you could nerf later....give us SOMETHING FOLKS geez!




1011010011001000000001100001010110101011       A s t r u s  
0100000110100001001111011001011011100011
111011010010101111100000010101110101111
0 "The Rebel Himself..."
1010101000110001101010010001000110011100
0111111101101010011111111110111111001000 Elder Politician
0111011001010111000011111101100000001100 Guild Master of SancTuarY
1111101111100111110110011101010011000011
0101111111110010010110111100000010001000 www.sanct-guild.com

Astrus
Thu Jul 22, 2004 2:20 pm
#247






KaiRan wrote:


I feel compelled to add comment, but Isuspect it is based in some pathetic belief that my voice will somehow be heard and make a diference.






its really bad when so many ppl have the same attitude as to what thier feedback is percieved as......SOE DONT IGNORE us...give us something to tide us over.....this community that has been supportive of you in the midst of broken promise after broken promise is developing a defeatist attitude.....thats not the way SOE should want the most polite profession base to be..


GIVE US SOMETHING TO TIDE US OVER....these guys would at least accept that!



1011010011001000000001100001010110101011       A s t r u s  
0100000110100001001111011001011011100011
111011010010101111100000010101110101111
0 "The Rebel Himself..."
1010101000110001101010010001000110011100
0111111101101010011111111110111111001000 Elder Politician
0111011001010111000011111101100000001100 Guild Master of SancTuarY
1111101111100111110110011101010011000011
0101111111110010010110111100000010001000 www.sanct-guild.com

Page 19 of 27