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Thread: Poll: Contraband on Vendors

Ternque01
Mon Feb 21, 2005 10:35 pm
#222

Good point Caylin.


On another note, if spices are not allowed on vendors, you could see smugglers turning into drug dealers. I know that some don't like being drug dealers, but perhaps there is a better solution. Maybe special vendors in cantina's would fit more into continuity than a local bazaar



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Giamai
Tue Feb 22, 2005 3:08 am
#223






Smuggler_Caylin wrote:
Just curious what you see happening in the event a robust slicing method is introduced. One that lets slicers pick and choose slices and tailor the item to the needs of the customer.

To me that means there will be no need for pre-sliced vendors at all. Spice will remain a consideration, but slicing? Doubtful. There would be little to no reason for that service to continue.






why would this change anything?


weaponsmiths and armorsmiths will simply ask for specific weapons to be sliced in particular ways knowing what sells and what doesn't. same for armorsmiths...then they will simply set up separate vendors as some already do..speed slices, damage slices, sets of encumbrance slices, etc.


basically all it means is that thosecrafters will not be destroyingitems that got the "wrong" slice type.




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WILDMAN_SOLO
Tue Feb 22, 2005 3:31 am
#224






Smuggler_Caylin wrote:
Just curious what you see happening in the event a robust slicing method is introduced. One that lets slicers pick and choose slices and tailor the item to the needs of the customer.

To me that means there will be no need for pre-sliced vendors at all. Spice will remain a consideration, but slicing? Doubtful. There would be little to no reason for that service to continue.






It wouldn't chage anything, just have a vendor for speed sliced and a vendor for damage sliced which is pretty much what we see these days anyway.


I personally think the majority of the smuggler community is clutching at straws and calling it content. If you think removing the ability for merchant to sell pre sliced goods on vendors is gonna help you all out content-wise you are all insane. Most guilds have their own resident smuggler who does slicing for the guild at cost or FOC so all this means is that the guild WS would just get the guild smuggler to slice the weapon before dishing them out to the guildies.


TBH it won't make any difference except in some instances the prices of pre sliced weapons will go through the roof as they will be more frequently sold at auction on the forums.




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SigmaXIII
Tue Feb 22, 2005 8:06 am
#225

my sliced weapons vendor is in the basement in the far room. my shop is outside mos eialey. its the most content/atmosphere i can provide and interferes with my buisness because many dont know that its there but im a smuggler at heart, was my first profession and ive mastered it on 5 toons and a total of 7 times.


i love it and cant let go.


however selling sliced weapons is part of my roleplay/weaponsmith buisness and seling on vendorsis great, smugglers should be the only profession who can drop a temporary vendor (only one) in a city or maybe have the ability to hack the bazarr and sell on there a few items at a time well over 6k?




if you remove ws selling sliced weapons off vendors then really you shouldnt be able to buy slicing tools off vendors either.






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TomoRainer
Tue Feb 22, 2005 8:23 am
#226

Perhaps. It's definitely something to discuss. However, on the other side of things, I could see slicing tools as falling into the same category as things like fake IDs, drug paraphernalia, and silencers: legal up until the point you try to buy beer with them, consume drugs with them, or attach them to a gun. In other words, they're not a problem on their own, but as soon as they are employed as a tool of crime, that's one more charge against you.

Of course, I suppose it's highly fallacious to assume the Empire gives an s- about probable cause or that it has any kind of bill of rights that would grant general possession of such things, but it is an area where the law tends to get hazy, so worth bringing up.







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HKowalsky
Tue Feb 22, 2005 8:25 am
#227

A
Andymantium
Tue Feb 22, 2005 8:46 am
#228

B





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-Eryn-
Tue Feb 22, 2005 9:02 am
#229

B


Ok I read the post and the idea behind A is good but it would suck for me. Most of my money from my vendors is sold from Spice and Smuggler Tools. And just the fact I would get tells from people about selling them spice would be such a pain in the behindbecause I hardly talk to people now. And they always send me tells at the worst time.


Also it would screw up certain slicing contracts that I have going on too. I do a lot of slicing fora weaponsmithand if they put this into play then well there goes my contract out the door.


/sigh






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SmugglinZane
Tue Feb 22, 2005 9:04 am
#230






WILDMAN_SOLO wrote:


It wouldn't chage anything, just have a vendor for speed sliced and a vendor for damage sliced which is pretty much what we see these days anyway.


I personally think the majority of the smuggler community is clutching at straws and calling it content. If you think removing the ability for merchant to sell pre sliced goods on vendors is gonna help you all out content-wise you are all insane. Most guilds have their own resident smuggler who does slicing for the guild at cost or FOC so all this means is that the guild WS would just get the guild smuggler to slice the weapon before dishing them out to the guildies.


TBH it won't make any difference except in some instances the prices of pre sliced weapons will go through the roof as they will be more frequently sold at auction on the forums.





Actually, to me it's about right and wrong. It has nothing to do with content, but to try and bring certain aspects of the game inline with what they should be.




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GuyBehindTheGuyBehindTheG
Tue Feb 22, 2005 9:55 am
#231

A



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MadeEvil
Tue Feb 22, 2005 10:32 am
#232

Seems most of the people that are for B are the ones that stand to lose money if this is done.



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lurdanta
Tue Feb 22, 2005 10:46 am
#233

A. Contraband should not be sold on vendors; it’s illegal and as such should not be so easily available, nor as easily identifiable by the authorities.

Furthermore, contraband should NOT be sold on the bazaar. It is absolutely irrational for something illegal to be sold in public. It's like selling heroin on Ebay.

I would also expand the definition of contraband to include tools to make it such as knives, clamps, FANS, WUKs, and AUKs. Spice ingredients are tricky for they do have legitimate uses, kind of like the ingredients used to make Crystal Meth, which you can buy over the counter at a drug store.

Andymantium
Tue Feb 22, 2005 11:09 am
#234






MadeEvil wrote:
Seems most of the people that are for B are the ones that stand to lose money if this is done.



Actually, I don't sell sliced goods on my vendors at all. I'm just against removing the ability to sell particular items from vendors. Add a fine, a faction penalty, etc. As a merchant I'm just stating my desire to keep the ability to sell what I want.



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